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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1164
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:39:00 -
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 Math time!
 The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
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        |  Joel II X
 Dah Gods O Bacon
 
 1958
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:41:00 -
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 It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
 
 It's the breach Pistol. It's good.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1164
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:43:00 -
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 Joel II X wrote:It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
 It's the breach Pistol. It's good.
 What?
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        |  Espartoi
 Krusual Covert Operators
 Minmatar Republic
 
 144
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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 Great math skills.
 
 I win you lose. | 
      
      
        |  Luna Angelo
 We Who Walk Alone
 
 850
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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 It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it.
 
 I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone | 
      
      
        |  Cody Sietz
 Bullet Cluster
 
 2833
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:46:00 -
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 It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
 
 Let me know when it has a 20m optimal.
 
 "I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1166
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:49:00 -
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 Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
 Let me know when it has a 20m optimal.
 Well then buff the damage
 Its DPS is way to low
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1166
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 03:50:00 -
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 Luna Angelo wrote:It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it. Thats true for just about every gun however, and because of the bolt pistols range glitch the magsec kills faster at all ranges.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1166
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 04:26:00 -
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 Bump
 This needs serious attention
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        |  Lorhak Gannarsein
 Science For Death
 
 2365
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 04:44:00 -
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 I do like the bolt pistol though.
 
 I have noticed the range thing, and it's screwed me over a bit.
 
 ak.0 4 LYFE Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST. | 
      
      
        |  Luna Angelo
 We Who Walk Alone
 
 858
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 04:50:00 -
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 The BP IS a fun weapon, if the shots did more damage or the shots were faster, it would also be viable.
 
 I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone | 
      
      
        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1168
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 05:20:00 -
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 Bump for great justice
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1171
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 12:32:00 -
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 Bump 2.0
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        |  Korvin Lomont
 United Pwnage Service
 RISE of LEGION
 
 830
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 12:46:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 
 This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing...
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1181
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 12:59:00 -
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 Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep
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        |  Korvin Lomont
 United Pwnage Service
 RISE of LEGION
 
 832
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep 
 If you have to charge every shot I would call this a bug...I haven't tested the pistols yet, may be I will give them a try tonight and file a bug report...
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        |  Krom Ganesh
 Nos Nothi
 
 1456
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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 I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage.
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        |  Ripley Riley
 Incorruptibles
 
 1238
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:09:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:My recommendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots 
 This, please and thank you. Spool up time between shots is throwing my mojo way off.
 
 He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution... | 
      
      
        |  Jack McReady
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1217
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:24:00 -
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 Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 
 pro tip: hold the trigger
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 694
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:25:00 -
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 Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 pro tip: hold the trigger You obviously havent used the crap pistol...
 
 Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears | 
      
      
        |  thesupertman
 Better Hide R Die
 
 230
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:26:00 -
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 The ion pistol is worse...
 
 The next build better be good. CCP don't mess up. | 
      
      
        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 694
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:29:00 -
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 thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it
 I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol...
 
 Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears | 
      
      
        |  Jack McReady
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1218
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:35:00 -
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 jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 696
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:39:00 -
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 Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue  Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything"
 
 Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears | 
      
      
        |  Jack McReady
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 1218
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:40:00 -
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 jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue  Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly.
 
 until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1185
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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 Krom Ganesh wrote:I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage. Either way is fine with me
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        |  jerrmy12 kahoalii
 
 696
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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 Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue  Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly. until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place. Oh please the hmg is overpowered as hell
 
 Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears | 
      
      
        |  Cat Merc
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 7772
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:46:00 -
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 It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS.
 
 It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants
  The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this.
 Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less.
 
 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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        |  Dexter307
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 
 1185
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:47:00 -
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 Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time!The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150
 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots.
 This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM
 Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol
 The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot
 With these 2 stats you can find the dps
 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525
 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS
 218.06 DPS...
 Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol!
 Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse!
 I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver!
 My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
 pro tip: hold the trigger You still have to charge every shot even though it's full auto
 Either remove having to charge every shot or make it semi auto and increase dmg to ~220-230 a shot
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        |  Cat Merc
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 7772
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.03.26 13:48:00 -
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 BTW, it eats scouts alive!
 
 It is really bad against heavies, can only be used as a finisher on mediums, but damn is it awesome for killing scouts
  
 Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
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