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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:39:00 -
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Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1958
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:41:00 -
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It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
It's the breach Pistol. It's good. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1164
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:43:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
It's the breach Pistol. It's good. What? |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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Great math skills.
I win you lose.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
850
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:46:00 -
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It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:50:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it. Thats true for just about every gun however, and because of the bolt pistols range glitch the magsec kills faster at all ranges. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:26:00 -
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Bump This needs serious attention |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:44:00 -
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I do like the bolt pistol though.
I have noticed the range thing, and it's screwed me over a bit.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:50:00 -
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The BP IS a fun weapon, if the shots did more damage or the shots were faster, it would also be viable.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1168
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:20:00 -
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Bump for great justice |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:32:00 -
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Bump 2.0 |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
830
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:46:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:59:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
832
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep
If you have to charge every shot I would call this a bug...I haven't tested the pistols yet, may be I will give them a try tonight and file a bug report... |
Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1456
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1238
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:09:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:My recommendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots
This, please and thank you. Spool up time between shots is throwing my mojo way off.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1217
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:24:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
pro tip: hold the trigger |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
694
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:25:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. pro tip: hold the trigger You obviously havent used the crap pistol...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:26:00 -
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The ion pistol is worse...
The next build better be good. CCP don't mess up.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
694
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:29:00 -
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thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:39:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything"
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly.
until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1185
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage. Either way is fine with me |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly. until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place. Oh please the hmg is overpowered as hell
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:46:00 -
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It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS.
It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1185
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:47:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. pro tip: hold the trigger You still have to charge every shot even though it's full auto Either remove having to charge every shot or make it semi auto and increase dmg to ~220-230 a shot |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:48:00 -
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BTW, it eats scouts alive!
It is really bad against heavies, can only be used as a finisher on mediums, but damn is it awesome for killing scouts
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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