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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:39:00 -
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Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1958
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:41:00 -
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It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
It's the breach Pistol. It's good. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1164
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:43:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:It's Caldari. It already came pre-buffed.
It's the breach Pistol. It's good. What? |
Espartoi
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
144
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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Great math skills.
I win you lose.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
850
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:44:00 -
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It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
2833
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:46:00 -
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It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:49:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:50:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:It does need a ROF buff, but that;s about it. If you can HIT every shot, you can kill with it. Thats true for just about every gun however, and because of the bolt pistols range glitch the magsec kills faster at all ranges. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1166
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:26:00 -
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Bump This needs serious attention |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2365
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:44:00 -
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I do like the bolt pistol though.
I have noticed the range thing, and it's screwed me over a bit.
ak.0 4 LYFE
Large Missile Turrets: the real unicorns of DUST.
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Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
858
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Posted - 2014.03.26 04:50:00 -
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The BP IS a fun weapon, if the shots did more damage or the shots were faster, it would also be viable.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1168
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Posted - 2014.03.26 05:20:00 -
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Bump for great justice |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1171
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:32:00 -
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Bump 2.0 |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
830
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:46:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1181
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Posted - 2014.03.26 12:59:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep |
Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
832
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. This made me wonder because according to the dev blog the Bolt should be Full automatic...so the charge should only be needed when you start firing... Yep
If you have to charge every shot I would call this a bug...I haven't tested the pistols yet, may be I will give them a try tonight and file a bug report... |
Krom Ganesh
Nos Nothi
1456
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:02:00 -
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I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
1238
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:09:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:My recommendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots
This, please and thank you. Spool up time between shots is throwing my mojo way off.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1217
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:24:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
pro tip: hold the trigger |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
694
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:25:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. pro tip: hold the trigger You obviously havent used the crap pistol...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
230
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:26:00 -
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The ion pistol is worse...
The next build better be good. CCP don't mess up.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
694
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:29:00 -
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thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
696
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:39:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything"
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1218
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:40:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly.
until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1185
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:I like the rate of fire to be honest. I would rather each shot did more damage. Either way is fine with me |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
696
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:42:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:thesupertman wrote:The ion pistol is worse... No it isnt, ive gotten many kikls with it I havent gotten a single kill with the bolt pistol... judging from this and your other recent posts I can only conclude that you have zero clue Ok lol "im a derp I see people who get pissed at the hmg and think I know everything" if you try to smack someone down, atleast do it properly. until then, do yourself a favor and stop posting, you will make yourself look less stupid. all your recent posts where full of scrub crap spit all over the place. Oh please the hmg is overpowered as hell
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:46:00 -
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It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS.
It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1185
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:47:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. pro tip: hold the trigger You still have to charge every shot even though it's full auto Either remove having to charge every shot or make it semi auto and increase dmg to ~220-230 a shot |
Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:48:00 -
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BTW, it eats scouts alive!
It is really bad against heavies, can only be used as a finisher on mediums, but damn is it awesome for killing scouts
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1186
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:49:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
1219
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:51:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS PLC should be able to two shot tanks according to that logic |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
918
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:52:00 -
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I tried all the pistols last night. The bolt pistol was first. I gave up three rounds later with one kill with it, and I've yet to see it on the killfeed.
The magsec and ion pistols are much, much better sidearms, IMO.
The charged shot mechanic makes the bolt pistol virtually useless -- as identified by the OP, it simply has too low a DPS to finish off anything but the almost-dead. |
jerrmy12 kahoalii
696
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:53:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS PLC should be able to two shot tanks according to that logic Exept you can hide indoors from the tank, and the plc has an easier time hitting hit than a bolt pistmol...
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:55:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS PLC should be able to two shot tanks according to that logic Exept you can hide indoors from the tank, and the plc has an easier time hitting hit than a bolt pistmol... Maybe if you're 5m away. In fact, if you aim at a tank 5m away that is moving, you will miss, because the projectile is that slow.
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
7772
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:56:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS It deserves equal DPS to the other pistols. It still has massively more range, even if it's a skill based weapon.
Edit: 205 damage per shot. Sounds fair?
Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
DUST514514
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1186
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:04:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS It deserves equal DPS to the other pistols. It still has massively more range, even if it's a skill based weapon. Edit: 205 damage per shot. Sounds fair? That would be much better then what we have now I would also like to see the operation skill changed as recoil resets before every shot so it dosent have much use Mabey charge time reduction? Also the bolt pistols range bug needs a fix bad |
Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
346
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:05:00 -
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If the bolt pistol is buffed I might just go proficiency 5. Day one prof 3 has served me well so far though. |
Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
275
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:13:00 -
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Buff Flaylock first
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1186
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:22:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:Buff Flaylock first Buff both |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1190
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:24:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:If the bolt pistol is buffed I might just go proficiency 5. Day one prof 3 has served me well so far though. I'll probably go prof 5 just because of how cool it is |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
2089
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:30:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms.
Flaylock first. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1190
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:31:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Math time! The bolt pistol has a fire intervel of .4 which means it should have a rof of 150 However, since you have to charge up the gun before each shot that adds a additional .25s between shots. This means its .65s between each shot or 92.3 RPM Lets look at the advanced bolt pistol The advanced bolt pistol does 141.75 damage per shot With these 2 stats you can find the dps 141.75 x 92.3 = 13083.525 13083.535/60 = 218.06 DPS 218.06 DPS... Thats terrible, thats even lower than the ion pistol! Combine that with the range glitch the bolt pistol has and it makes it even worse! I really want this pistol to be good, i mean its a friggin space revolver! My recomendation to make the bolt pistol a more balenced weapon is to remove the charge between shots and only require the charge on the first shot just like on the rail rifle and the magsec, this would give it a DPS of 354.38 which is much more in line with the other sidearms. Flaylock first. Someone already said this I said buff both Next |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
881
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:41:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:It needs a slight buff, but NOT to 350 DPS. It's like the only weapon that trades DPS for range, the rest at most trade 10 DPS, and sometimes have even more DPS than the low range variants The Assault Rifls come to mind when talking about this. Plasma Rifle has the lowest range by far, but only marginaly more DPS, sometimes even less, and sometimes much less. It's a skill based weapon, missing even a single shot drastically reduces it's TTK so it deserves a higher DPS It deserves equal DPS to the other pistols. It still has massively more range, even if it's a skill based weapon. Edit: 205 damage per shot. Sounds fair? That would be much better then what we have now I would also like to see the operation skill changed as recoil resets before every shot so it dosent have much use Mabey charge time reduction? Also the bolt pistols range bug needs a fix bad I was thinking that the op skill WOULD do something useful. I looked and saw recoil reduction? Seriously? It fires so slowly that the recoil doesn't matter. It's like a revolver in COD or Battlefield.
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1195
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:21:00 -
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How about for damage: STD/ADV/PRO 200/ 210/ 220
Change operations skill to: -5% to charge time per level |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2387
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:30:00 -
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+1 All 4 pistols are bad and need buffs. Some more than others. Pistols should be usable as more than finisher weapons.
Fizzer94 // Forum Warrior Operation II // MAG Vet
Gallente Neutron Rifle
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
3688
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:32:00 -
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You don't need the maths mate. Just use it, it's crap.
No.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:38:00 -
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Idk if all my time spent in a rail tank makes me good with it ir I'm just brain defective but I've been averaging about a quarter of my kills coming from bolting people in the head.
... mainly scouts because lulz.
If you don't understand politics or pulling triggers, I have no use for you.
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Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
466
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:56:00 -
[49] - Quote
Bolt pistol is awesome.
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Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
621
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:11:00 -
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Bolt is a solid heavy killer. SCR + bolt pistol can make mince meat out of heavies. Especially if you land head shots with the bolt. I was actually shocked to see how quick the heavy armor dropped from bolt rounds. |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1203
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Posted - 2014.03.26 18:43:00 -
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#buffbolt |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1203
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Posted - 2014.03.26 19:25:00 -
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#buffthebolt |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1203
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Posted - 2014.03.26 20:27:00 -
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#pleasebuffthebolt |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:51:00 -
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Bump |
Ghost Kaisar
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:54:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low
Remember that argument we had a long time ago, that ended with everyone agreeing that
HIGH RANGE HIGH DPS WEAPONS BREAK THE GAME!?!?!
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 00:57:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low Remember that argument we had a long time ago, that ended with everyone agreeing that HIGH RANGE HIGH DPS WEAPONS BREAK THE GAME!?!?! 350 dps is not high DPS Its require PERFECT accuracy to be effective and even now the magsec is better at all ranges |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:54:00 -
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I refuse to let this thread die |
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:58:00 -
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id say a small RoF buff, maybe 1 more in the mag, but thats it
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.27 02:59:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low Remember that argument we had a long time ago, that ended with everyone agreeing that HIGH RANGE HIGH DPS WEAPONS BREAK THE GAME!?!?! 350 dps is not high DPS Its require PERFECT accuracy to be effective and even now the magsec is better at all ranges 350 dps is higher than SMGGǪJust saying. Im thinking somewhere around 330 at proto would be good, but at basic, it needs to be around 270
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 03:00:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:id say a small RoF buff, maybe 1 more in the mag, but thats it Its mag size is fine. Its the DPS thats to low 210 DPS for a weapon that requires alot of skill is not good It either needs its charge time inbetween shots removed or damage at basic upped to 200 Operation skill should also be 5% reduction a charge time since recoil reset between each shot anyway |
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 03:04:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:It's a bolt pistol, it meant to have a long shot between.
Let me know when it has a 20m optimal. Well then buff the damage Its DPS is way to low Remember that argument we had a long time ago, that ended with everyone agreeing that HIGH RANGE HIGH DPS WEAPONS BREAK THE GAME!?!?! 350 dps is not high DPS Its require PERFECT accuracy to be effective and even now the magsec is better at all ranges 350 dps is higher than SMGGǪJust saying. Im thinking somewhere around 330 at proto would be good, but at basic, it needs to be around 270 The basic smg does 350 dps exactly The magsec does 355 at basic for only 5 less meters of optimal range The bolt pistol needs to do at least as much dps or very close to the same DPS or theres no reason to use it considering how much more difficult to use it is compared to spray and pray guns. |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 03:36:00 -
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Seems everyone agrees it needs a buff Can we get us a hotifx for the bolt pistol ccp? |
Maken Tosch
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:47:00 -
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I just saw Cyrius Li-Moody's latest video. He's wrecking with the Bolt Pistol. Of course, best combined with the MAGSEC.
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Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I just saw Cyrius Li-Moody's latest video. He's wrecking with the Bolt Pistol. Of course, best combined with the MAGSEC. But not everyone's quite as good as him And he killed people much faster with the magsec |
Dexter307
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Posted - 2014.03.28 14:37:00 -
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Buff dis thing |
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