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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
208
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Posted - 2014.03.23 00:53:00 -
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A friend of mine started playing today so I made an alt squaded up and went to the academy w him, kind of a personal tutor, show him what equipment's what and so on.
Hit 1120 wp at the end of the first match realized I would get the boot so we decided to run "operation meat shield" for a few more matches, I draw people out he kills them. Started the next match and I get ganked by a viziam... da fuq?
So turns out it's 1200 wp/squad not player to graduate.
Because you know the battle academy is WAY too long as it is.
1st match and he admits if I weren't there to explain that was a garbage game he would've just quit and deleted it
him-"So that happens a lot?"
me-"yup"
him-"wow you guys really need some matchmaking or something"
me-"... hahaahhaha"
Welcome to you're "DOOM"
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4428
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Posted - 2014.03.23 00:56:00 -
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When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
I am your scan error.
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Atheor Sindromer
ahrendee mercenaries
69
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:00:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
Haha same here, how we ever managed to even become moderately adept at this game, I don't know.
Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
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Criteria Shipment
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
730
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:01:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
Yea, we had to do it like we weren't american. You should be thankful there is a tutorial, starting fits that never run out, less lag, and boosters. Back in my day we had to WALK to the battle finder.
STFU
Goodbye, world!
(püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
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Takron Nistrom
Tinfoil Hatz
280
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:02:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
lol
GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥
GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
1081
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:03:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
Let's be fair bro, we weren't going up against people with 30+ million SP either. The NPE needs serious work because of we don't get new players and continue losing bitter vets through normal attrition our game will die.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
208
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:03:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU. Let's be fair bro, we weren't going up against people with 30+ million SP either. The NPE needs serious work because of we don't get new players and continue losing bitter vets through normal attrition our game will die.
Good to know someone got the point.
Welcome to you're "DOOM"
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
575
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:10:00 -
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Criteria Shipment wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU. Yea, we had to do it like we weren't american. You should be thankful there is a tutorial, starting fits that never run out, less lag, and boosters. Back in my day we had to WALK to the battle finder. STFU
...What?
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
195
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:12:00 -
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When I joined pub matches were battle academy. Hardly anyone ran anything other than MLT and I fumbled my way to the marketplace. Back then no one knew what a Repair Tool was so I was getting shot by people who thought I had pulled some sort of weird weapon on them!
Then people figured out how to spend skill points and min maxGǪthat was when I got pro to stomped nearly constantly by Duvolle users.
Good timesGǪI pity any newbies who join after 1.8 and all the SP events we just hadGǪ
The most OP weapon on the Dust Battle Field:
One good logi, one rep tool, and a heavy.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4435
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:12:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU. Let's be fair bro, we weren't going up against people with 30+ million SP either. The NPE needs serious work because of we don't get new players and continue losing bitter vets through normal attrition our game will die.
SP gain was through the roof in beta, so we may as well have been going up against that.
My main point is that if they need hand-holding, they're going to quit at some point down the line anyway. They'll just be another useless grunt for a little while.
I am your scan error.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13620
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:13:00 -
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When I joined there was no wall of text.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Criteria Shipment
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
730
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:15:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:Criteria Shipment wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU. Yea, we had to do it like we weren't american. You should be thankful there is a tutorial, starting fits that never run out, less lag, and boosters. Back in my day we had to WALK to the battle finder. STFU ...What?
You should know by now americans are fat and lazy.
Goodbye, world!
(püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1443
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:18:00 -
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when I joined we used dried mud then we advanced to using rocks as weapons instead of dried mud.
technology advances.
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1674
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:29:00 -
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When I joined, I chose artificer. On another toon, I chose arbiter. Finally, I filled in the last slot with sentinel.
Now I ask this question: what happened to the terms arbiter and artificer? |
Second Cerberus
Tested In Production
95
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:31:00 -
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Wow, based on some of these responses I swear half of the community wants this game to die.
The majority of matches involve some element of cheap OHK's, ROFL stomps of your team, getting killed even though you got the jump on the other player and for extra fun, lag, no place to train and a need to live on the forums to know what's going on with the game.
If the first few matches turn people off the game permanently that is a problem for all of us who love this game. It really shouldn't be that hard to retain players with a FREE to PLAY shooter.
A better NPE is not a bad thing for vets, I can't understand the thinking behind hating on suggestions to improve it.
When I started with DUST the NPE was also terrible, but that was a CLOSED BETA. There is no excuse for it to be this poor with the game having been released for a year.
"I don't always test my code, but when I do, I do it in production." - CCP
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2079
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:35:00 -
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This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Criteria Shipment
Dogs of War Gaming
Zero-Day
733
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:39:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this.
Great sig. I'll take you seriously next time.
Goodbye, world!
(püú-ÿ+í-ÿ-é)
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light
Vanguard of the Phoenix
512
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:41:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU.
Oh and when did you start? If it was before idk... May 2013, you have no room to ever comment on newbie life in this game... ever.
"We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1848
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:42:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:when I joined we used dried mud then we advanced to using rocks as weapons instead of dried mud.
technology advances.
Ahhh, rocks. Brings back memories.
Back in those days we called rocks 'Minmatar Tech II' - worked though. I'm still fond of doing Ammarians that way =)
I support SP rollover.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1848
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:44:00 -
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Second Cerberus wrote:Wow, based on some of these responses I swear half of the community wants this game to die.
The majority of matches involve some element of cheap OHK's, ROFL stomps of your team, getting killed even though you got the jump on the other player and for extra fun, lag, no place to train and a need to live on the forums to know what's going on with the game.
If the first few matches turn people off the game permanently that is a problem for all of us who love this game. It really shouldn't be that hard to retain players with a FREE to PLAY shooter.
A better NPE is not a bad thing for vets, I can't understand the thinking behind hating on suggestions to improve it.
When I started with DUST the NPE was also terrible, but that was a CLOSED BETA. There is no excuse for it to be this poor with the game having been released for a year.
It's one thing if some of us hardasses want the game to die if there are no tough-as-nails noobs to be found, but what's CCP's excuse?
I support SP rollover.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1864
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:44:00 -
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When I joined, it took forever to get out of the academy \o/ |
Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4441
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:44:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this.
Quality of players > quantity of players
I am your scan error.
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Supernus Gigas
sNk Syndicate
576
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Posted - 2014.03.23 01:56:00 -
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Criteria Shipment wrote:Supernus Gigas wrote:Criteria Shipment wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:When I joined, there wasn't even an academy, and we had to look through a wall of text to learn everything.
If you were playing on standard definition (as I was at the time), said wall of text was nearly unreadable because the font size at the time was meant for HD.
HTFU. Yea, we had to do it like we weren't american. You should be thankful there is a tutorial, starting fits that never run out, less lag, and boosters. Back in my day we had to WALK to the battle finder. STFU ...What? You should know by now americans are fat and lazy.
Oh yeah, stereotypes. Woo...
FIRE UP THE HEAVY MEAT GRINDER! WE'RE HAVIN' CLONE BURGERS TONIGHT, BOYS!
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2432
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:00:00 -
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When I joined all I had was a mass driver and a needle. I went against guys with their cores maxed running around in death wielding AR/LR suits slaughtering the entire opposing team. But one day I was accepted by a corp because of my excellent noob logi skills. I was the guy stacked with stamina regs running across the map to save your sorry ass, I was the guy that was in the tank with you just in case you needed a repair tool. But enough of my rants, what most people don't say is that EVE is exactly like this you gotta find a group of guys that make you laugh and stick with them. The NPE is the corporations willing to accept the new guy.
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:02:00 -
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Sure i'll jump on the band wagon of retardation.
Yeah and back in the hard days the only players around were the people who just installed and were going to quit in a week and the beta players with their 30-50 mil sp were just rolling over us constantly, man I wish I could have just one battle academy match back then...... wait.
There is way too much Edge going on in here, everyone's going to get cut. Claiming to have had it hard when seeing one proto suit was like seeing a unicorn let alone the full time proto death squads that appear in every match today.
I know its tandamount that everyone who plays fps thinks they are god's gift to fps games, but when you all were running around with 1 mil sp and no battle academy you were still better off then now, when you have 520k sp after 5 battle academy matches (If you were lucky) and then run into a wall of maxed out skill using vets. I know you guys like to think you are MLG pros but it really is just the double to triple ehp and damage/accuracy boosts showing those noobs what's up.
It's like if WoW threw the level 10s in with the level 60s and said HTFU then whined about how they used to have to fight other level 10s back when they started but the font was so bad u guise! |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:03:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:When I joined all I had was a mass driver and a needle. I went against guys with their cores maxed running around in death wielding AR/LR suits slaughtering the entire opposing team. But one day I was accepted by a corp because of my excellent noob logi skills. I was the guy stacked with stamina regs running across the map to save your sorry ass, I was the guy that was in the tank with you just in case you needed a repair tool. But enough of my rants, but what most people don't know is that EVE is exactly like this you gotta find a group of guys that make you laugh and stick with them. The NPE is the corporations willing to accept the new guy.
Eve would be exactly like this game if Eve was nothing but factional warfare. |
Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2080
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:03:00 -
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Criteria Shipment wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this. Great sig. I'll take you seriously next time.
sig = Mr.Bungle - Squeeze me macaroni
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2080
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:05:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this. Quality of players > quantity of players
To an extent.... future depends on new players coming in...that simple
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2014.03.23 02:27:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:This game kills a lot of potential customers, vets are so obsessed with the "back in my day", "HTFU" mentality. Reality is the game will die before ccp want it to, NPE will be a major factor in this. Quality of players > quantity of players
>Implying new players = lower quality.
But then who will you have to inflate your kdr if it keeps spreading word of mouth that this game is ****? Which is what is happening right now, everytime someone installs this game then get's raped when CCP throws them in a lobby with someone who has much better gear then them when they haven't even learned the game.
Take Payday 2 for instance, tons of **** that isn't self explanatory that must be learned as you go. Now imagine if Payday 2 only had 3 day missions on overkill and a jewelry store on normal. It doesn't though because although Overkill can **** things up like all gaming companies do at times they weren't full blown ******** and figured they should have varying levels of play.
Call of Duty on the other hand doesn't have anything whatsoever when it comes to varying difficulty in a multi-player environment. But here's the thing, Call of Duty basics can be mastered in about 10 minutes with the nuances in about 3 hours.
This game on the other hand has maybe about 1 hour of basics to master with about 5 hours of understanding the nuances, and then a sp ceiling requiring 6 months to a year of grinding to "git gud" and harden the **** up.
This game is artificially skilled, not individually skilled which is fine I knew what I signed up for, but don't get hit with a stupid stick and try to pretend that grinding is an acceptable form of skill acquisition and by skill I mean player ability not skill points.
You can hate the newbies but don't be a pretentious ass that thinks he's good because he he has the numerical skill boosts that make him better. Understand that most "Humans" play games to have fun and don't find hiding in their redline or running out as cannon fodder as fun. And whether or not you care, this game is hemorraging money and is at this point a tax write off and it will get closed down if CCP cannot appeal to a larger market. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
473
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Posted - 2014.03.23 03:02:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:
>Implying implications
artificially skilled
And then there-¦s this guy!
TOLD514
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