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Frame rate dips causing inconsistent inputs.. Feeling of futility in Close quarter high player count fights.

Server Latency issues.. Not just with me but with the opponents. Having them stop and freeze up, warp several tiles ahead or back from previous location..

Rubber Banding, Server/Client updating performance issues. Allowing for quicksand movement all day Frustrating you and breaking you down... Stop motion for the entire game worth of players... Server hang ups.. Where you wonder around for a minute with nothing then warp back to where you where..

Hit detection.. Hit a Head and you hit a chest... Hit the chest and you hit a Head... Shoot at a wall where the enemy just ran too get a kill... Shoot someone in the back point blank, No damage. They turn around dead in under a sec(Measured on capture card) *This could be an essay on the terrible hit detection*

Aiming controls and customization. The aim sensitivity always feels to low for DS3. I can't set my own buttons... change around vehicle or dropship commands to make it actually work to my game play... Frustrates you... that small changes could improve so much of your personal gameplay.. Mouse and Keyboard and Playstation Move, If I used those exclusively? I would quit this game... they are broken.. in so many aspects of use... and near unusable in many aspects of DUST 514... Aiming controls are the worst in DUST 514.

Squad Glitches and Mic errors. One of the biggest killers of active players and groups of friends... After people having to relog 4-5 times each per night to try and make DUST 514 run consistent.. Then Mic Glitches.. Bubble Glitches.. Scotty.. Then reforming squad... People just get absolutely fed up and logg off and go play an game that isn't broken everywhere you look.

Terrible spawns in a Game with Currency Investment Per death The Spawns and Spawn mechanics in DUST and map design around spawning in DUST 514... Is just horrid... Specially with a game that is designed around deaths costing you assets... It's like we got this awesome concept... Then never fully realized it!!! Which is the story of DUST 514.

Map Design. I'll leave this to a recent review. "Battlegrounds are too large for the player count, resulting in long stretches where enemies are nowhere to be found. They're wastelands of muddy industrial sameness, with no attention to scale or flow. Paths dead-end nonsensically. Ladders and hallways lead to empty rooms devoid of relation to objectives or tactics." There is no ladders equalizing battlefields.. Barely any multi-level playability without a Dropship... No spots for snipers.. infantry... Mechanized units... Installation placements... Just endless..

My issues that get me down or make me logg off... Or many of the others is just the Core Mechanics Of Making a FPS And then go and play another game.

It never was like this in DUST 514... It was always a work in progress in some area's.. But during Open Beta, Chromosome.. It established enough Consistency and Solid Performance state that it was enjoyable all day playing... With less racial content.. No FW... No PC... Less infantry weapons... Less graphics... 9 month's less of optimization and No Aim Assist.

Right now Unless extremely addicted, or with a bunch of friends drowning out DUST it becomes intolerable after an hour or two of play and you go flip on another game.. For all 18 DUST players I have on my PSN, you could almost time it..

Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You

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DootDoot Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 299	Posted - 2014.03.21 02:47:00 - [31] - Quote Frame rate dips causing inconsistent inputs.. Feeling of futility in Close quarter high player count fights. Server Latency issues.. Not just with me but with the opponents. Having them stop and freeze up, warp several tiles ahead or back from previous location.. Rubber Banding, Server/Client updating performance issues. Allowing for quicksand movement all day Frustrating you and breaking you down... Stop motion for the entire game worth of players... Server hang ups.. Where you wonder around for a minute with nothing then warp back to where you where.. Hit detection.. Hit a Head and you hit a chest... Hit the chest and you hit a Head... Shoot at a wall where the enemy just ran too get a kill... Shoot someone in the back point blank, No damage. They turn around dead in under a sec(Measured on capture card) This could be an essay on the terrible hit detection Aiming controls and customization. The aim sensitivity always feels to low for DS3. I can't set my own buttons... change around vehicle or dropship commands to make it actually work to my game play... Frustrates you... that small changes could improve so much of your personal gameplay.. Mouse and Keyboard and Playstation Move, If I used those exclusively? I would quit this game... they are broken.. in so many aspects of use... and near unusable in many aspects of DUST 514... Aiming controls are the worst in DUST 514. Squad Glitches and Mic errors. One of the biggest killers of active players and groups of friends... After people having to relog 4-5 times each per night to try and make DUST 514 run consistent.. Then Mic Glitches.. Bubble Glitches.. Scotty.. Then reforming squad... People just get absolutely fed up and logg off and go play an game that isn't broken everywhere you look. Terrible spawns in a Game with Currency Investment Per death The Spawns and Spawn mechanics in DUST and map design around spawning in DUST 514... Is just horrid... Specially with a game that is designed around deaths costing you assets... It's like we got this awesome concept... Then never fully realized it!!! Which is the story of DUST 514. Map Design. I'll leave this to a recent review. "Battlegrounds are too large for the player count, resulting in long stretches where enemies are nowhere to be found. They're wastelands of muddy industrial sameness, with no attention to scale or flow. Paths dead-end nonsensically. Ladders and hallways lead to empty rooms devoid of relation to objectives or tactics." There is no ladders equalizing battlefields.. Barely any multi-level playability without a Dropship... No spots for snipers.. infantry... Mechanized units... Installation placements... Just endless.. My issues that get me down or make me logg off... Or many of the others is just the Core Mechanics Of Making a FPS And then go and play another game. It never was like this in DUST 514... It was always a work in progress in some area's.. But during Open Beta, Chromosome.. It established enough Consistency and Solid Performance state that it was enjoyable all day playing... With less racial content.. No FW... No PC... Less infantry weapons... Less graphics... 9 month's less of optimization and No Aim Assist. Right now Unless extremely addicted, or with a bunch of friends drowning out DUST it becomes intolerable after an hour or two of play and you go flip on another game.. For all 18 DUST players I have on my PSN, you could almost time it..
DootDoot Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 304	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:00:00 - [32] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Strafing to avoid bullets? You can just expect someone to stand there and let you shoot them. But the movement mechanics can be tweaked to turn our characters from ballerinas into soldiers. We are in a Advanced Dropsuits that improve your movement, strength and defense to take bullets... Along with being immortal Clone soldiers.. If you can move at 10 meters per second... Who could track that at even 50% accuracy with the best marksmen in the world? Let alone in the heat of battle with a scout up in your face... The US Military have been developing a TALOS suit to do just this with the same idea... Confusing... "Stand still while I shoot you boy!!!" "Dammnit that ballerina has moved and i have to aim again! Please Oh Godly CCP Deliver AA to save my butt!!!!" "Hey man! AA is in every video game ever its the bestest! look what it has done for DUST!" I think Free to play just attracts .... interesting? people...
Moochie Cricket Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 603	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:12:00 - [33] - Quote REDLINE "Military training is preferable, but anyone who can fly a plane would be useful." "I can fly. I'm pilot."
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San 284	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:14:00 - [34] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Share your opinions, here are mine: - People strafing to avoid bullets, are we in the matrix? - Redline rail tanks - Rail tanks vs any other vehicle - Redline snipers, especially those hitbox is completely hidden by terrain and those who use Thales. - Getting kicked for FW for team damage from attacking a red tank (hacked) - Tank spam - AV vs vehicle imbalance - The horrible state of most Gallente weapons vs other weapons - Crappy New Player Experience - Absence of full EWAR, imbalances tank vs gank. Like a kangaroo without a tail, imbalanced. - Lack of heavy weapon parity - Getting 1 shotted in a dropship by a triple damage mod rail tank most of these had the word "red line" and "tank" in them :P hintity hint hint? Best game with a Python: 33kills 1 death (1.6) 24kills 1 death (1.7)
Xaviah Reaper Nyain San 284	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:15:00 - [35] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Strafing to avoid bullets? You can just expect someone to stand there and let you shoot them. well... left right left right gets a little ... stupid :) Best game with a Python: 33kills 1 death (1.6) 24kills 1 death (1.7)
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2881	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:19:00 - [36] - Quote Mikey The Bandaid wrote: Texs Red wrote: Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Texs Red wrote: Share your opinions, here are mine: - People strafing to avoid bullets, are we in the matrix? So... basically you're annoyed that people don't stand still and let you kill them? Sorry, but this complaint doesn't belong. I'll agree with everything else, though. What is irritating about it is how effective it is but only in a purely mechanical way. Strafing works well to avoid fire, this is a real tactic. I just think here it is too strong. What reminds me this is really a game is when people strafe left/right faster than the sensitivity can really follow, allowing them to avoid like 50% of my shots. In real life I would laugh then shoot them because I don't have a limited ability to look left/right, but obviously here that is a reality. It breaks immersion. For those calling it skill, trying that in real life vs a full auto assault rifle and tell me how well it works. That's the wonderful thing about it though...it IS a video game and NOT real life! I used to have the same thoughts on immersion and video games, but then came a freeing day in my life. I realized that, I'm playing a game and if they made the game so realistic and true to real life it wouldn't be very much fun. I do agree with strafe speeds of people using a keyboard and mouse though. They don't experience any type of lag when they switch between left and right, whereas when using a controller the analog stick must go from left to right causing a slight delay when changing directions. Games allow us to experience things the way you would in a dream I believe, even bf4 and I agree also. Now, where did I park my drop ship. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2882	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:45:00 - [37] - Quote Not even being able to trade No dust market at least Laser focussed on the ps3 Things taking a very long time that shouldn't, like the new suits that are finally coming, at last. Bland game modes with no reason to even bother because either your team is crap or you redline the opposition straight away The time between dying and respawning taking so long Spawning invisible AND invincible, carebear nonsense. The games progression sees time spent in game become more worthless as time goes on The terrible hit detection and bugs even though its better than ever at the mo Scrubs who care about dying in a fking pub match, its sickening Ccp The people on the forums who don't know wtf they are talking about and have barely even played Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1436	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:51:00 - [38] - Quote The QQing community. Not this thread but like when people are so damn emotional they're cursing everything and everyone even when people approach them non-aggressively over topics that don't call for such aggression, and spazzing out when they could just act like civilized adults. I learn to forgive because either I'm not going to see you often or I'm not going to care if I see you often. I think the worst part about it is that even the usually friendly people can get end up acting like silver-spooned babies and belligerent ingrates who believe that insults are a common part of a conversation. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
axujens Commando Perkone Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:54:00 - [39] - Quote People that kill me. Seriously knock it off!
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2883	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:57:00 - [40] - Quote axujens wrote: People that kill me. Seriously knock it off! Ah yeah those ones. I wish they'd just stand the fk still and face the other way lol. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I'll behave

OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 66	Posted - 2014.03.21 15:59:00 - [41] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Texs Red wrote: Share your opinions, here are mine: - People strafing to avoid bullets, are we in the matrix? So... basically you're annoyed that people don't stand still and let you kill them? Sorry, but this complaint doesn't belong. I'll agree with everything else, though. What is irritating about it is how effective it is but only in a purely mechanical way. Strafing works well to avoid fire, this is a real tactic. I just think here it is too strong. What reminds me this is really a game is when people strafe left/right faster than the sensitivity can really follow, allowing them to avoid like 50% of my shots. In real life I would laugh then shoot them because I don't have a limited ability to look left/right, but obviously here that is a reality. It breaks immersion. For those calling it skill, trying that in real life vs a full auto assault rifle and tell me how well it works. I think he mean laaaaging caldari or minmatar full shield one. You know that situation when 90% of your bullets hit the target and shield stays on the same level, and your total hp is gone long time ago:)
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 312	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:15:00 - [42] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: Strafing to avoid bullets? You can just expect someone to stand there and let you shoot them. But the movement mechanics can be tweaked to turn our characters from ballerinas into soldiers. We are in a Advanced Dropsuits that improve your movement, strength and defense to take bullets... Along with being immortal Clone soldiers.. If you can move at 10 meters per second... Who could track that at even 50% accuracy with the best marksmen in the world? Let alone in the heat of battle with a scout up in your face... Perhaps the futuristic, immortal clone soldier with the abilities far beyond normal humans could.... Another thing, strafing as we have it ignores inertia. You can move left from 0 m/s to 10 m/s instantly, stop on a dime, and instantly begin moving right at 10 m/s. I am no physics major but wouldn't you have to, at least somewhat, gradually gain speed then decrease it or else you would spin out at the beginning or slide at the end due to lack of perfect traction on dirt? Not to mention the fact that our mercs can ignore all the inertia from going one direction, so to instantly overcome 10 m/s of left movement you would need like 20 m/s of right movement. Except we can't move 20 m/s .....
BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 830	Posted - 2014.03.21 16:17:00 - [43] - Quote Wallhacks... err Scanners
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 54	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:01:00 - [44] - Quote The fact that armor tankers at 800 armor still move faster than sentinals, i mean like come one. No pve shields go poof in no time proto stomps Blue berries... The fact that whenever i run solo all this happens
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 405	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:53:00 - [45] - Quote DootDoot wrote: Frame rate dips causing inconsistent inputs.. Feeling of futility in Close quarter high player count fights. Server Latency issues.. Not just with me but with the opponents. Having them stop and freeze up, warp several tiles ahead or back from previous location.. Rubber Banding, Server/Client updating performance issues. Allowing for quicksand movement all day Frustrating you and breaking you down... Stop motion for the entire game worth of players... Server hang ups.. Where you wonder around for a minute with nothing then warp back to where you where.. Hit detection.. Hit a Head and you hit a chest... Hit the chest and you hit a Head... Shoot at a wall where the enemy just ran too get a kill... Shoot someone in the back point blank, No damage. They turn around dead in under a sec(Measured on capture card) This could be an essay on the terrible hit detection Aiming controls and customization. The aim sensitivity always feels to low for DS3. I can't set my own buttons... change around vehicle or dropship commands to make it actually work to my game play... Frustrates you... that small changes could improve so much of your personal gameplay.. Mouse and Keyboard and Playstation Move, If I used those exclusively? I would quit this game... they are broken.. in so many aspects of use... and near unusable in many aspects of DUST 514... Aiming controls are the worst in DUST 514. Squad Glitches and Mic errors. One of the biggest killers of active players and groups of friends... After people having to relog 4-5 times each per night to try and make DUST 514 run consistent.. Then Mic Glitches.. Bubble Glitches.. Scotty.. Then reforming squad... People just get absolutely fed up and logg off and go play an game that isn't broken everywhere you look. Terrible spawns in a Game with Currency Investment Per death The Spawns and Spawn mechanics in DUST and map design around spawning in DUST 514... Is just horrid... Specially with a game that is designed around deaths costing you assets... It's like we got this awesome concept... Then never fully realized it!!! Which is the story of DUST 514. Map Design. I'll leave this to a recent review. "Battlegrounds are too large for the player count, resulting in long stretches where enemies are nowhere to be found. They're wastelands of muddy industrial sameness, with no attention to scale or flow. Paths dead-end nonsensically. Ladders and hallways lead to empty rooms devoid of relation to objectives or tactics." There is no ladders equalizing battlefields.. Barely any multi-level playability without a Dropship... No spots for snipers.. infantry... Mechanized units... Installation placements... Just endless.. My issues that get me down or make me logg off... Or many of the others is just the Core Mechanics Of Making a FPS And then go and play another game. It never was like this in DUST 514... It was always a work in progress in some area's.. But during Open Beta, Chromosome.. It established enough Consistency and Solid Performance state that it was enjoyable all day playing... With less racial content.. No FW... No PC... Less infantry weapons... Less graphics... 9 month's less of optimization and No Aim Assist. Right now Unless extremely addicted, or with a bunch of friends drowning out DUST it becomes intolerable after an hour or two of play and you go flip on another game.. For all 18 DUST players I have on my PSN, you could almost time it.. Looks like the only one with some substance . I can almost smell the intelligence coming from this one , while the bulk of the rest sound like QQ's . Leave all negative comments about tanks in the bin marked " TRASH " and we'll get to it as soon as possible . Thank You
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 374	Posted - 2014.03.21 17:55:00 - [46] - Quote Whiners. Lots of things makes dust fun for me, like scouting about - ping a few shots into a heavies back then run around the corner to - wait, I'm moving really slow...I can't...quite...move - ***! I'm stuck in a wall! I'm a scout who relies heavily on mobility and cover and sweet mother of god I'm stuck in a wall(/crate/barrier/railing/floor) with a pissed off heavy firing at .....arrrrgh! gurgle* Also - uplinks that spawn you in the ground and you end up in some sort of purgatory space. It's not good, but it's not bad...it's so-so. Nothing like being forced to commit suicide... Also - Skirmish seems to be the most balanced game mode (out of the myriad of game modes we have). I'll say again for effect - Skirmish. Is. The. *most* balanced game mode The Ghost of Bravo
RendonaSix SWAMPERIUM 4	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:05:00 - [47] - Quote When dust gets to where we want it, it will be too late. There will, at this rate, better games that offer what dust has and more by then. The only thing dust can really truly boast, as far as I can tell, is that its forums are boss lol. Granted dust won't die but hardly anyone will be playing. I am not Tech.
CaoticFox Axis of Chaos 185	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:21:00 - [48] - Quote KANE SPERO lying, sadistic, manipulative, double-talking, entitled, socially disruptive, immoral, & impotent Narcissistic Sociopath Im on the FORUMS because im P!$$ED off @ the game. as of 1920 CST USA 02-03-14 i have... 53,765,260 SP
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1210	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:40:00 - [49] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Share your opinions, here are mine: - People strafing to avoid bullets, are we in the matrix? - Redline rail tanks - Rail tanks vs any other vehicle - Redline snipers, especially those hitbox is completely hidden by terrain and those who use Thales. - Getting kicked for FW for team damage from attacking a red tank (hacked) - Tank spam - AV vs vehicle imbalance - The horrible state of most Gallente weapons vs other weapons - Crappy New Player Experience - Absence of full EWAR, imbalances tank vs gank. Like a kangaroo without a tail, imbalanced. - Lack of heavy weapon parity - Getting 1 shotted in a dropship by a triple damage mod rail tank Tanks mostly
alten hilt DUST University Ivy League 116	Posted - 2014.03.21 18:46:00 - [50] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Dingleburt Bangledack wrote: Texs Red wrote: Share your opinions, here are mine: - People strafing to avoid bullets, are we in the matrix? So... basically you're annoyed that people don't stand still and let you kill them? Sorry, but this complaint doesn't belong. I'll agree with everything else, though. What is irritating about it is how effective it is but only in a purely mechanical way. Strafing works well to avoid fire, this is a real tactic. I just think here it is too strong. What reminds me this is really a game is when people strafe left/right faster than the sensitivity can really follow, allowing them to avoid like 50% of my shots. In real life I would laugh then shoot them because I don't have a limited ability to look left/right, but obviously here that is a reality. It breaks immersion. For those calling it skill, trying that in real life vs a full auto assault rifle and tell me how well it works. Actually, hitting a moving target with full auto fire is really difficult unless the gun is mounted. And even then, it still takes a lot of training and skill. This is from personal experience.

Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 271	Posted - 2014.03.21 19:10:00 - [51] - Quote knight of 6 wrote: twilight & night time maps where you can't see wtf is going on scrub tank pilots that focus on infantry rather than enemy vehicles stagnation between builds the forums when they have nothing interesting to talk about massive open areas of the maps that lack adequate cover fatty taxis massive railing hitboxes railings one inch taller than a scout's jump railings period god awful uneven glitchy terrain lack of turret stabilization this list will probably grow but i have places to go. I like night maps, provides a different environment, and adds immersion Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
RendonaSix SWAMPERIUM 5	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:20:00 - [52] - Quote CaoticFox wrote: KANE SPERO lying, sadistic, manipulative, double-talking, entitled, socially disruptive, immoral, & impotent Narcissistic Sociopath You are Kain's nemesis. I am not Tech.
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 733	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:28:00 - [53] - Quote People who complain about how others play. every time i hear some one cry about someone camping or someone using an op weapon or vehicle i just wanna throw up. who the hell are you to say anything. you dont own them and they are not playing to please your selfish butt. either adapt and defeat your foe or shut up and go home. People have every right to play the game in a way that they enjoy. Regardless of if it helps your team or not. There is not such thing as play the game the right way. unless the creator of video games says so its all a load of selfish whining trash.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 979	Posted - 2014.03.21 20:42:00 - [54] - Quote Anything that falls from the sky in Dust. People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch I'm a scout, and a logi and a 'assault.' Proto Cal Frame
DootDoot Da Short Buss RISE of LEGION 305	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:17:00 - [55] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: The QQing community. Not this thread but like when people are so damn emotional they're cursing everything and everyone even when people approach them non-aggressively over topics that don't call for such aggression, and spazzing out when they could just act like civilized adults. I learn to forgive because either I'm not going to see you often or I'm not going to care if I see you often. I think the worst part about it is that even the usually friendly people can get end up acting like silver-spooned babies and belligerent ingrates who believe that insults are a common part of a conversation. Is this the only Gaming Forum Community you have been apart of? Because these forums though full of alot of constructive criticism that could be used or taken anyway... Is Pretty timid.. Battlefield 4 forums are going crazy Because of it's broken Net code... It's straight up Vicious in there... GTA 5 forums are just as Rough... Being this long without Heists, Stock Market, Casino.. All kinds of stuff.. That forum is brutal... EVE forums Compared to DUST forums even.... IF our two forums where merged? You would have a Rude awakening... Not to mention every EVE player on the forums is pretty much what the DUST community labels it's own at "Try Hards" with all the intensity and passion over issues that seem to bother you... Just goes to show you how often people with little to no experience in gaming communities and progressing persistent titles... Then Get a Taste of DUST and then feel they know how everything in the entire gaming industry should work. Special.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom 1371	Posted - 2014.03.21 21:24:00 - [56] - Quote rail tanks killing infantry from 2 meters is stupid.


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