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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:13:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote: However, the reduction to equipment fitting costs for logis may make is possible to run a first rate slayer set up and still be able to fit decent equipment, which doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice.
I've been running Gal logi most of Uprising, which already has the equipment fitting bonus. And at proto level with electronics and engineering maxed you can run proto gun, a combination of advanced and complex tanking modules and have advanced equipment. It costs you over 200K ISK and you get around 900 EHP but are slower than most assaults and of course lack the sidearm. Now my Amarr assault currently gets the same EHP, fits a proto weapon, is faster, has a sidearm and is all around a better killing suit and costs 50K ISK less and this is before weapon fitting bonuses. Now it doesn't have as much equipment but its not a support suit
Basically, the assault offers a mix of the other suits in my mind. No it is not as tanked as a commando, but it moves faster and has a grenade. No it is not as fast as a scout or have as low a profile and as good at passive scanning, but it has better tank and can usually fit a little better weaponry.
On my alt I run Gallente scout and minmatar assault. I was planning on running a version of the gal scout that was tanked out and using it as a "assault suit" but it turns out that I was making a suit that would be about the same speed as my minnie assault, have 100-200 less EHP, and not get bonuses to clip size of my CR and SMG.
IMO a well made assault is the suit that can handle changing battlefield conditions the best (by that I mean good in many scenarios without having to change suits) and it is competative with Commando, Logi, and scout. Sentinels on the other hand......well I've done enough whining about their OPness.
Between my 2 characters I'll be at proto level in 5 suits. 2 assault, 1 scout, 1 logi, 1 commando
I would like to ask you all though, if the assault had a second grenade slot and a CPU/PG boost in order to utilize that 2nd slot, would it differentiate it more in your opinion?
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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TITANIC Xangore
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:15:00 -
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Ayures II wrote:I'll probably train Amarr assault again because **** you, it's shiny.
I won't train anything cause **** you I like militia style.... |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Reapers' Assailant
970
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:19:00 -
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I run proto Cal Frame. Why? Cause I can and I look awesome. Not as awesome as proto cal assault & logi but up there.
My fit
Frame
GEK [smoothest rifle ever]
M209 [one of the two] SMG
Locus Nades
ADV Rep Tool
3 ADV armor plates
4 ADV Shield Regs
Some things you don't need to go proto on. But even if its just to look awesome suits are worth it.
People who do are usually the envy of those who only watch
I'm a scout, and a logi and a 'assault.' Proto Cal Frame
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:25:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:
I would like to ask you all though, if the assault had a second grenade slot and a CPU/PG boost in order to utilize that 2nd slot, would it differentiate it more in your opinion?
Absolutely. Anything that makes it unique could be enough already. I run Gal Logi and Scout since Uprising 1.0, but I considered getting into assault. But as it is now, its unattractive to me. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:31:00 -
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Because I don't have any commando BPO's and running a light weapon on a sentinel is for scrubs.
Also, the whole point of the assault suit is to be a workhorse suit that does a lot of things well without big time SP or ISK investment. Faster than a commando, more durable than a scout.
Why do you want it to be something else?
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1416
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:48:00 -
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Because once everybody goes heavy and commando and scout, it will be the new FOTM.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Official Dust 514 movie style popcorn manufacturer and distributor.
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Hansei Kaizen
The Jackson Five
28
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Posted - 2014.03.20 21:58:00 -
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I just want the assault to be something. I just cant wrap my head around it. I see Logi and I think: "Yes, that is the guy.", I see Heavy and I think: "Yes, that is the tough guy.", I see Scouts and I think: "Yes, that is the sneaky guy."
When I see Assault all I think is "Meh" and go on (In the marketplace, in the skill tree, and on the battlefield). Would be great if they added something special to it. Nothing miraculous. Just something that gives me a hint.
Maybe just flames sprayed on the helmet... |
castba
Penguin's March
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:07:00 -
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Hansei Kaizen wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:
We have yet to see how increased TTK will effect things. Sidearms may go from being nice to have to necessary for a"slayer". when you run slayer logi you are basically sacrificing being able to run decent equipment to run the tank and weaponry of an assault while foregoing the sidearm in 3 out of 4 logi suits
True, the sidearm may make him better than a Logi, but why would I choose an Assault over a Sentinel or Commando wielding light weapons? If I want mobility, why would I choose an Assault over a Scout? Havent heard persuading answers to these questions yet, which was more or less the reason for this thread.
Because you get the middle ground with an assault.
You can have better mobility with low health as a scout.
You can have high health with severely poor mobility as a heavy.
Or you can have decent health with good mobility as an assault. Just means you are capable of everything but not as good at the one thing that the specialised suits specialise in. |
Luna Angelo
We Who Walk Alone
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Posted - 2014.03.20 22:25:00 -
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I got one: I'm gonna use Caldari Assault. Everyone is complaining about the bonus. I just want to see the "fan mail": "Why are you using that useless suit?" "My "Raven"? It killed your Gallente Proto Assault/Logi/Commando/Sentinel/scout suit, didn't it?"
I don't need luck, I have ammo.
Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep.
CEO of We Who Walk Alone
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