DUST Search - 10 good reasons to run Assault Suits 1.8

Aramis Madrigal wrote:

Reav Hannari wrote:

Compared to Logistics:

Higher base armor than their Logistics counterpart
Higher base shield than their Logistics counterpart
Higher base shield recovery rate than their Logistics counterpart
Faster ground speed than their Logistics counterpart
Higher max stamina than their Logistics counterpart
Higher stamina recovery than their Logistics counterpart
Easier fitting of light weapons and sidearms than their Logistics counterpart

Did you want that compared to other suits? Is this an everybody will run Scout thread?

The weapon fitting is inconsequential as the logi has higher base CPU/PG (possible nerf later, but could just use FW specialist weapons to close the gap). Also, the slot configuration coupled with the higher CPU/PG allows the logi to recoup the deficit in armor and/or shields fairly easily. All this while having the added utility of additional equipment slots. Currently, the assault is not the best suit at anything nor does it have greater versatility than the frames that could be considered "adjacent" to it (Scout, Logi, Commando). So if the assault frame is not best in class at anything nor the most flexible, what exactly is it for? If I want more staying power and damage, I'll go commando. If I want lower signature and greater speed I'll go scout. If I want equal or better tank with more equipment, I'll go logi. Mediocre at several things isn't a class defining characteristic (or at least shouldn't be), but that seems to be where the assault frame is at currently.

-Aramis


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Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 24	Posted - 2014.03.20 17:25:00 - [1] - Quote ... I cant think of any. Do you?
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 24	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:11:00 - [2] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Did you want that compared to other suits? Is this an everybody will run Scout thread? Kind of. My motivation was a match getting owned by Basic Heavy / Proto RR Fittings. I asked myself: Why use an assault suit at all, when most of the game consists of relative low mobility fighting in the proximity of objectives and sub-objectives, that depends more on high dmg output and ehp. The flanking and harrasment / quick assault and retreat part seems more feasible with scouts. I just cant see what makes the assault suit special or a relevant alternative. Enlighten me.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 24	Posted - 2014.03.20 18:20:00 - [3] - Quote Well I'm a Scout and Logi user with a splash of heavy ... guilty as charged Tried assault on my alt and was not persuaded... I just dont have the same feeling of impact on the battlefield. Not the kind of control, not the kind of resilience. Nothing special.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 24	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:25:00 - [4] - Quote Aramis Madrigal wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Compared to Logistics: Higher base armor than their Logistics counterpart Higher base shield than their Logistics counterpart Higher base shield recovery rate than their Logistics counterpart Faster ground speed than their Logistics counterpart Higher max stamina than their Logistics counterpart Higher stamina recovery than their Logistics counterpart Easier fitting of light weapons and sidearms than their Logistics counterpart Did you want that compared to other suits? Is this an everybody will run Scout thread? The weapon fitting is inconsequential as the logi has higher base CPU/PG (possible nerf later, but could just use FW specialist weapons to close the gap). Also, the slot configuration coupled with the higher CPU/PG allows the logi to recoup the deficit in armor and/or shields fairly easily. All this while having the added utility of additional equipment slots. Currently, the assault is not the best suit at anything nor does it have greater versatility than the frames that could be considered "adjacent" to it (Scout, Logi, Commando). So if the assault frame is not best in class at anything nor the most flexible, what exactly is it for? If I want more staying power and damage, I'll go commando. If I want lower signature and greater speed I'll go scout. If I want equal or better tank with more equipment, I'll go logi. Mediocre at several things isn't a class defining characteristic (or at least shouldn't be), but that seems to be where the assault frame is at currently. -Aramis You express my feelings very accurate (even better than myself). I would reformulate it like this: Something that is a little bit of everything, in this case, feels like nothing at all. And is being trumped by something in almost every situation, which can be frustrating or irritating.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 25	Posted - 2014.03.20 19:49:00 - [5] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: We have yet to see how increased TTK will effect things. Sidearms may go from being nice to have to necessary for a"slayer". when you run slayer logi you are basically sacrificing being able to run decent equipment to run the tank and weaponry of an assault while foregoing the sidearm in 3 out of 4 logi suits True, the sidearm may make him better than a Logi, but why would I choose an Assault over a Sentinel or Commando wielding light weapons? If I want mobility, why would I choose an Assault over a Scout? Havent heard persuading answers to these questions yet, which was more or less the reason for this thread.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 27	Posted - 2014.03.20 20:25:00 - [6] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: I would like to ask you all though, if the assault had a second grenade slot and a CPU/PG boost in order to utilize that 2nd slot, would it differentiate it more in your opinion? Absolutely. Anything that makes it unique could be enough already. I run Gal Logi and Scout since Uprising 1.0, but I considered getting into assault. But as it is now, its unattractive to me.
Hansei Kaizen The Jackson Five 28	Posted - 2014.03.20 21:58:00 - [7] - Quote I just want the assault to be something. I just cant wrap my head around it. I see Logi and I think: "Yes, that is the guy.", I see Heavy and I think: "Yes, that is the tough guy.", I see Scouts and I think: "Yes, that is the sneaky guy." When I see Assault all I think is "Meh" and go on (In the marketplace, in the skill tree, and on the battlefield). Would be great if they added something special to it. Nothing miraculous. Just something that gives me a hint. Maybe just flames sprayed on the helmet...