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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:39:00 -
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Please release 1.9 quickly. Focus only on balancing numbers based on player feedback and data from 1.8. The changes in 1.8 are mostly excellent, but I suspect with so many sweeping changes we will need more refinement. I know you have a lot of big ideas planned, but don't delay what could be small balancing tweaks for months waiting on new content. AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem, it would be very frustrating to wait many months with constant tank spam, and unbalanced weapons/suits for big new things.
+1 if you agree.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:44:00 -
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+2
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:47:00 -
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dont forget bug fixes. every patch brings new ones.
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Defy Gravity
Knights of Eternal Darkness League of Infamy
289
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:48:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Please release 1.9 quickly. Focus only on balancing numbers based on player feedback and data from 1.8. The changes in 1.8 are mostly excellent, but I suspect with so many sweeping changes we will need more refinement. I know you have a lot of big ideas planned, but don't delay what could be small balancing tweaks for months waiting on new content. AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem, it would be very frustrating to wait many months with constant tank spam, and unbalanced weapons/suits for big new things.
+1 if you agree. +100
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DEA Scott Richardson
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:56:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Please release 1.9 quickly. Focus only on balancing numbers based on player feedback and data from 1.8. The changes in 1.8 are mostly excellent, but I suspect with so many sweeping changes we will need more refinement. I know you have a lot of big ideas planned, but don't delay what could be small balancing tweaks for months waiting on new content. AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem, it would be very frustrating to wait many months with constant tank spam, and unbalanced weapons/suits for big new things.
+1 if you agree. +1 |
VonSpliff
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.19 03:09:00 -
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+1
This might get bad and I can't do another 4 months of bad.
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Berserker007
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
506
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Posted - 2014.03.19 03:57:00 -
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wont happen, look for new build (not uprising 1.9, but full new name build) coming on May 14th (my guess)....
Closed Beta Vet
Mordu's Trials Winner
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
290
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:57:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem.
I believe that AV balance will stay a problem until we see changes to game mechanics which cannot be made quickly or by updating values. Otherwise CCP probably would have made some changes already.
Part of the point of the current balance was to explore a new dynamic for vehicles and to iterate on that with larger, more costly development when they had the numbers they need. I agree that in the meantime vehicle balance has become an embarrassing joke but the pit CCP have dug for themselves isn't one they can just pave over with a hotfix. They need to develop new mechanics to make this stuff work and the associated outlay requires solid justification (now more than ever). It sucks that this beta testing BS comes at the expense of the player base of a 1+ year old game but that's what people get for not going and playing something with competent designers.
Basically there aren't any easy/quick fixes at this point, not even at the expense of temporarily halting the introduction of new features. |
Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:02:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Vell0cet wrote:AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem. I believe that AV balance will stay a problem until we see changes to game mechanics which cannot be made quickly or by updating values. Otherwise CCP probably would have made some changes already. Part of the point of the current balance was to explore a new dynamic for vehicles and to iterate on that with larger, more costly development when they had the numbers they need. I agree that in the meantime vehicle balance has become an embarrassing joke but the pit CCP have dug for themselves isn't one they can just pave over with a hotfix. They need to develop new mechanics to make this stuff work and the associated outlay requires solid justification ( now more than ever). It sucks that this beta testing BS comes at the expense of the player base of a 1+ year old game but that's what people get for not going and playing something with competent designers. Basically there aren't any easy/quick fixes at this point, not even at the expense of temporarily halting the introduction of new features.
I'm not sure that's true.
I think there are a lot of improvements to be made by just tweaking numbers.
Vehicle hardeners are too good, railguns are too good, tanks are a bit too fast. AV nade and swarm damage is too low (I don't know about forges), swarm range is too low. Might want to increase AV nade carry amount and swarm clip size.
I'd also like to see blasters changed to be AV rather than AI. That's more controversial and complicated though.
If we can get infantry AV back to the point where it's a threat to vehicles then that would improves things a lot.
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
290
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:11:00 -
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Fair enough, I'm not saying things can't be improved at all by making value changes. I'm just saying that an update with no new content is a big sacrifice just to get a partial band aid fix that doesn't really complement the long term strategy already intended to address these issues. |
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Tailss Prower
501ST JFW StrikerZ Unit
196
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:25:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:dont forget bug fixes. every patch brings new ones. this patch didn't have any bug fixes which I find to be quite sad really |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1072
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:30:00 -
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Unlikely to be a 1.9
Only six weeks away from Fanfest and the assumed release of the new build 'insert name here' 1.0.
Besides if there were a 1.9, past experience and convos with the Dev's and CPM tells me that it is work is almost complete on it and not likely to be changed.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1132
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:38:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Fair enough, I'm not saying things can't be improved at all by making value changes. I'm just saying that an update with no new content is a big sacrifice just to get a partial band aid fix that doesn't really complement the long term strategy already intended to address these issues. I think vehicle capacitors and e-war are part of the long-term solution to vehicle balance. That could take a while to implement (It really should have been implemented in 1.7 imo, when they spent months on the vehicle changes). What I don't want is to be stuck waiting for 3 months, waiting on a "God patch" that ends up getting pushed back a couple of times, and the next thing you know it's late July or early August and we're still complaining about how the Magsec is totally OP out of balance (just an example, it might actually be fine), or the buffs to scouts still aren't enough to counter heavies and they're unchecked and out of control, or Mass drivers were buffed too much and it's MD spam left and right.
I don't know what the problems will be with 1.8, we're going to have to see how things shake out, but I don't think any game designer can make as many sweeping changes as CCP did with 1.8 and get everything right. This long stretch of broken RR and tank spam in 1.7 has been incredibly frustrating. I took a break for a while just to get away from it. We really need a quick patch after 1.8 to at least balance things better if we're in for a major future patch ahead. I don't expect 1.9 to make things perfect, but if they can file down the sharp edges of the most egregious balancing issues, then it would make waiting for a while much easier.
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Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
290
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:41:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:... the next thing you know it's late July or early August and we're still complaining about how the Magsec is totally OP out of balance (just an example, it might actually be fine), or the buffs to scouts still aren't enough to counter heavies and they're unchecked and out of control, or Mass drivers were buffed too much and it's MD spam left and right.
Sorry, I was just talking about vehicle balance. I have no problem with a larger relative focus on balance after dropping a lot of new content. |
Robin Walkerr
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:48:00 -
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+1 expecially for the AV thing |
Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:55:00 -
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I don't like the petition format of this post... But there is going to need to be some AV balance changes soon to counteract the ~25% damage reduction that AV weapons should see against shield tanks.
This isn't a game breaking thing, because most AV weapons were already broken, but it certainly goes against the flow of positive changes of 1.8 |
Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:13:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:I don't like the petition format of this post... But there is going to need to be some AV balance changes soon to counteract the ~25% damage reduction that AV weapons should see against shield tanks.
This isn't a game breaking thing, because most AV weapons were already broken, but it certainly goes against the flow of positive changes of 1.8 The petition isn't meant to be a "demand" on CCP, but more to express a unified concern that if there are longer gaps in development, the most egregious balancing issues need to be addressed while they work on big things. The long period of 1.7 with broken railgun and tank spam has been painful. Repeating this for another long period would be a big mistake. Get a quick patch out that refines balance so we can have fun with the game while CCP works on big projects.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8412
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:15:00 -
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Agree but when HAV are balanced you will still see a lot of them since a lot of people like using vehicles.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
10037
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:16:00 -
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A balance patch will likely be very much needed. +1
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
3012
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:16:00 -
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1.9? what 1.9?
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1154
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:18:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:1.9? what 1.9? It's the balance pass that CCP ought to release between 1.8 and whatever big things they're working on for Fanfest.
Talk to CCP, make it happen!
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8413
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:18:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:1.9? what 1.9?
A very telling statement..... interesting. +1
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
1837
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:20:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:jenza aranda wrote:1.9? what 1.9? It's the balance pass that CCP ought to release between 1.8 and whatever big things they're working on for Fanfest. Talk to CCP, make it happen! Exactly. Who cares what it's called, Jenza?
It's ultimately the awful gameplay and destructive NPE that we all care about, after all.
P.S. Signed.
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thesupertman
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:24:00 -
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1.9= adds balance and fixes bugs
2.0= lots of new toys that are added to a balanced game with less bugs.
This game need more vehicles!
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.20 13:38:00 -
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Well need a way of revoking posting rights sometimes.
Lets make catchy thread titles and populist demands without any thought to how development or the real word works WWHHHHOOO BLARGYALDAA!!!
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
781
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:15:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Please release 1.9 quickly. Focus only on balancing numbers based on player feedback and data from 1.8. The changes in 1.8 are mostly excellent, but I suspect with so many sweeping changes we will need more refinement. I know you have a lot of big ideas planned, but don't delay what could be small balancing tweaks for months waiting on new content. AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem, it would be very frustrating to wait many months with constant tank spam, and unbalanced weapons/suits for big new things.
+1 if you agree.
+1 but I doubt this will happen CCP needs something shiny for fanfest... |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:16:00 -
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If the internet has taught me anything, it's that online petitions work 100% of the time
...but +1 for you anyway. I would like to see a patch devoted to balancing what we have now/bug fixes.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1933
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:22:00 -
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+1
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1079
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:37:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:1.9? what 1.9?
As close to confirmation of 1.9 not happening as your likely to get.
Roll on Fanfest and 2.0.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3205
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Posted - 2014.03.20 14:54:00 -
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That would require swift movement on CCP's part.
Ain't happenin'. (Remember when they said they'd be going to more hotfixes? I think we saw 4 before that idea hit the wall.)
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