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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:39:00 -
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Please release 1.9 quickly. Focus only on balancing numbers based on player feedback and data from 1.8. The changes in 1.8 are mostly excellent, but I suspect with so many sweeping changes we will need more refinement. I know you have a lot of big ideas planned, but don't delay what could be small balancing tweaks for months waiting on new content. AV/Vehicle balance is still a major problem, it would be very frustrating to wait many months with constant tank spam, and unbalanced weapons/suits for big new things.
+1 if you agree.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:38:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Fair enough, I'm not saying things can't be improved at all by making value changes. I'm just saying that an update with no new content is a big sacrifice just to get a partial band aid fix that doesn't really complement the long term strategy already intended to address these issues.
I think vehicle capacitors and e-war are part of the long-term solution to vehicle balance. That could take a while to implement (It really should have been implemented in 1.7 imo, when they spent months on the vehicle changes). What I don't want is to be stuck waiting for 3 months, waiting on a "God patch" that ends up getting pushed back a couple of times, and the next thing you know it's late July or early August and we're still complaining about how the Magsec is totally OP out of balance (just an example, it might actually be fine), or the buffs to scouts still aren't enough to counter heavies and they're unchecked and out of control, or Mass drivers were buffed too much and it's MD spam left and right.
I don't know what the problems will be with 1.8, we're going to have to see how things shake out, but I don't think any game designer can make as many sweeping changes as CCP did with 1.8 and get everything right. This long stretch of broken RR and tank spam in 1.7 has been incredibly frustrating. I took a break for a while just to get away from it. We really need a quick patch after 1.8 to at least balance things better if we're in for a major future patch ahead. I don't expect 1.9 to make things perfect, but if they can file down the sharp edges of the most egregious balancing issues, then it would make waiting for a while much easier.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:13:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:I don't like the petition format of this post... But there is going to need to be some AV balance changes soon to counteract the ~25% damage reduction that AV weapons should see against shield tanks.
This isn't a game breaking thing, because most AV weapons were already broken, but it certainly goes against the flow of positive changes of 1.8
The petition isn't meant to be a "demand" on CCP, but more to express a unified concern that if there are longer gaps in development, the most egregious balancing issues need to be addressed while they work on big things. The long period of 1.7 with broken railgun and tank spam has been painful. Repeating this for another long period would be a big mistake. Get a quick patch out that refines balance so we can have fun with the game while CCP works on big projects.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.03.19 22:18:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:1.9? what 1.9?
It's the balance pass that CCP ought to release between 1.8 and whatever big things they're working on for Fanfest.
Talk to CCP, make it happen!
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.03.20 16:06:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Well need a way of revoking posting rights sometimes.
Lets make catchy thread titles and populist demands without any thought to how development or the real word works WWHHHHOOO BLARGYALDAA!!!
First this isn't a demand, it's meant to be a unified expression of opinion from those that agree. The way 1.7's long stretch with broken balance issues was handled was painful and damaging to the game. Development takes time. I myself code, so I understand that better than most.
The request is to simply balance the sharpest corners based on feedback/data after major changes in a small/focused patch prior to a bigger content patch that could have significant delays (which may be for good reason). I know there are big things planned for Fanfest, but realistically it could just be an announcement and not a release. If they do have big things planned, the date could slip (possibly multiple times--like 1.8's date did). I don't begrudge that, things happen. The problem is if things are broken while the ship date keeps getting pushed back, we're left with a broken game and trying to adapt to the problems for months. This is very damaging to the community.
The request is reasonable, tweaking numbers in a database, and possibly revising a few gameplay mechanics in the code, should that become necessary (for example, if cloaks turn out to be game-breaking OP, perhaps making damage force a decloak with a recloak delay penalty, or if they suck horribly, possibly reducing their blue-ghost opacity by 10%, or whatever makes sense).
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2014.03.20 23:49:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:I want racial vehicles and pilot suits and buffed AV(and possibly AV suits).
I want all that too. The question is, if it takes 3-5 more months to get them, would you rather have 1.9 only deal with balancing AV and other balance issues, or wait for it to all come at once?
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