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CookieStein
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.18 22:52:00 -
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I'm not much for forum trash talk but I wrote this. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
11398
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Posted - 2014.03.18 22:59:00 -
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INB4 this thread devolves into mud-slinging contest.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2029
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Posted - 2014.03.18 23:12:00 -
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There is a saying "Blogs are written by the losers of war. History is written by the victors"
PS really that was like so last week. Also I missed the part where TSO benefited from mercs before they didn't. o7 John "Cookie" Kerry
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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CookieStein
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
260
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Posted - 2014.03.18 23:27:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:There is a saying "Blogs are written by the losers of war. History is written by the victors"
When can I expect the NF/RA Eve blog then? |
Roman837
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:13:00 -
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Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers!
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1886
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:32:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! You seem to be forgetting that we just whooped Escrow and AE in every battle last nigh tell SpartanBiker thanks for the Gastuns.
Team carry Prof. IV
I am a carried scrub!
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2029
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:32:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:Free Beers wrote:There is a saying "Blogs are written by the losers of war. History is written by the victors" When can I expect the NF/RA Eve blog then?
I don't think any of us really care enough too.
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Roman837
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:47:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! You seem to be forgetting that we just whooped Escrow and AE in every battle last nigh tell SpartanBiker thanks for the Gastuns.
Don't know how that has any connection to my post refference EVE...But...I literally just checked the Dust Alerts on twitter to check what you ment. I didn't see and TSO corps take any districts...but I did see a few lose a couple. Please clarify what you mean. This is why FA will continue to be targetted..because a few of their members talk so much trash. You win some fights..and immediatly come onto here to brag about it and rub it in. I mean, congrats on winning a fight, sincerely proud of you. Maybe your opponents had an off game?
Zatara, I truely respect you, we had some good chats/negotiations...BUT..you need to keep some of your guys off the forums with their random chirps or brags when they win. Its getting FA targetted and discrediting you as a leader. If it came down to a vote to cease hostilities VS FA and concentrate on the other corps..if vote for it. So that you can rebuild. But every chirp slowly eats away at that.
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2241
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:49:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards?
The problem with tanks
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CookieStein
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
262
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:50:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? Yes |
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Patrlck 56
31
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:53:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Zatara, I truely respect you, we had some good chats/negotiations...BUT..you need to keep some of your guys off the forums with their random chirps or brags when they win. Its getting FA targetted and discrediting you as a leader. If it came down to a vote to cease hostilities VS FA and concentrate on the other corps..if vote for it. So that you can rebuild. But every chirp slowly eats away at that. I've seen AE talk more trash on these forums than anybody (I guess I wasn't around for the Imperfect's reign of terror :3).
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
576
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:55:00 -
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if people were more like me on the forums, the forums would suck
The new CEO of FA
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Roman837
Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance
165
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:57:00 -
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CookieStein wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? Yes
Haha...I don't think 2 Canadian Corps would fight each other. We would probly send Very concerned letters to each other..and start the off with "sorry to bother you but.."
Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2029
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:58:00 -
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I dont understand why they can't talk trash. I think everyone should 1, talk trash 2, dont take things so seriously. FA had a good monday let them talk trash.
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Derrith Erador
The Panty Pugilists
1318
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:10:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I dont understand why they can't talk trash. I think everyone should 1, talk trash 2, dont take things so seriously. FA had a good monday let them talk trash. YEEEEEEUUUUPPP
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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iTbagyou
Expert Intervention Caldari State
246
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:11:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:I dont understand why they can't talk trash. I think everyone should 1, talk trash 2, dont take things so seriously. FA had a good monday let them talk trash.
Exactly. The moment the other side starts winning a few fights, it'll be on here just as fast.
Official spokesman of Lipton Tea.
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1886
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:41:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! You seem to be forgetting that we just whooped Escrow and AE in every battle last nigh tell SpartanBiker thanks for the Gastuns. Don't know how that has any connection to my post refference EVE...But...I literally just checked the Dust Alerts on twitter to check what you ment. I didn't see and TSO corps take any districts...but I did see a few lose a couple. Please clarify what you mean. This is why FA will continue to be targetted..because a few of their members talk so much trash. You win some fights..and immediatly come onto here to brag about it and rub it in. I mean, congrats on winning a fight, sincerely proud of you. Maybe your opponents had an off game? Zatara, I truely respect you, we had some good chats/negotiations...BUT..you need to keep some of your guys off the forums with their random chirps or brags when they win. Its getting FA targetted and discrediting you as a leader. If it came down to a vote to cease hostilities VS FA and concentrate on the other corps..if vote for it. So that you can rebuild. But every chirp slowly eats away at that. Escrow and AE blitzed us we lost some districts because Zatara had real life things and we didn't have enough of the right people on they blitzed the other half of our Districts last night and lost every single one we even had a 5 cap for a moment in one battle they barely got to armor. So while no districts were taken AE and Escrow failed 7-8 battles. When was DDB relevant?
Team carry Prof. IV
I am a carried scrub!
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Benjamin Ciscko
Fatal Absolution
1886
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:42:00 -
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iTbagyou wrote:Free Beers wrote:I dont understand why they can't talk trash. I think everyone should 1, talk trash 2, dont take things so seriously. FA had a good monday let them talk trash. Exactly. The moment the other side starts winning a few fights, it'll be on here just as fast. You post those pics yet?!?!?
Team carry Prof. IV
I am a carried scrub!
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4636
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:56:00 -
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Patrlck 56 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Zatara, I truely respect you, we had some good chats/negotiations...BUT..you need to keep some of your guys off the forums with their random chirps or brags when they win. Its getting FA targetted and discrediting you as a leader. If it came down to a vote to cease hostilities VS FA and concentrate on the other corps..if vote for it. So that you can rebuild. But every chirp slowly eats away at that. I've seen AE talk more trash on these forums than anybody (I guess I wasn't around for the Imperfect's reign of terror :3). It's all just fun. :D Only me and rampage go on the forums tbh. And we didn't trash talk much on Saturday or Sunday. So I'm not sure where you're seeing these trash talks from AE.
And I hardly trash talk. Well not as much as others anyway
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3322
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:10:00 -
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Roman837 wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! You seem to be forgetting that we just whooped Escrow and AE in every battle last nigh tell SpartanBiker thanks for the Gastuns. Don't know how that has any connection to my post refference EVE...But...I literally just checked the Dust Alerts on twitter to check what you ment. I didn't see and TSO corps take any districts...but I did see a few lose a couple.
Winning battles doesn't get you districts, though. Launching attacks from other districts does. And to do that, you need your own districts to not be under attack. Something that is currently impossible when your enemy holds nearly everything in molden heath.
You happen to have them because you inherited them at a time when nobody else gave a damn. That's all there is to it.
No sense making a big fuss about us losing districts. There is quite literally no other outcome here. What else are we supposed to do? If everyone wants you out of PC, you're going out of PC. It's just a question of how many times you get to punch your opponent in the nuts before you're finally expelled. |
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Derrith Erador
The Panty Pugilists
1318
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:11:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Patrlck 56 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Zatara, I truely respect you, we had some good chats/negotiations...BUT..you need to keep some of your guys off the forums with their random chirps or brags when they win. Its getting FA targetted and discrediting you as a leader. If it came down to a vote to cease hostilities VS FA and concentrate on the other corps..if vote for it. So that you can rebuild. But every chirp slowly eats away at that. I've seen AE talk more trash on these forums than anybody (I guess I wasn't around for the Imperfect's reign of terror :3). It's all just fun. :D Only me and rampage go on the forums tbh. And we didn't trash talk much on Saturday or Sunday. So I'm not sure where you're seeing these trash talks from AE. And I hardly trash talk. Well not as much as others anyway Marauder, I like you. But in all fairness, in the case of AE overall talking trash, anybody could give you a freaking checklist. Just look at the downfall of Eon war, and the Prof V war threads, it's got enough garbage in there for two garbage trucks.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2031
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:20:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:
Don't know how that has any connection to my post refference EVE...But...I literally just checked the Dust Alerts on twitter to check what you ment. I didn't see and TSO corps take any districts...but I did see a few lose a couple.
Winning battles doesn't get you districts, though. Launching attacks from other districts does. And to do that, you need your own districts to not be under attack. Something that is currently impossible when your enemy holds nearly everything in molden heath.
You happen to have them because you inherited them at a time when nobody else gave a damn. That's all there is to it.
No sense making a big fuss about us losing districts. There is quite literally no other outcome here. What else are we supposed to do? If everyone wants you out of PC, you're going out of PC. It's just a question of how many times you get to punch your opponent in the nuts before you're finally expelled.
You are correct and this was a design flaw we identified for PC before it even went public. CCP put tried to make clone packs affordable so compensate but that just created other problems. Since PC clones are passive any group that has even a few more districts than you can just bombard your districts with clones and deplete you thru a war of attrition.
Even if you won most of your battles the shear numbers that can be sent at you would eventually cause you to lose. There really isn't anything that can be done by CCP with PC 1.0.
If you haven't noticed PC as it is now means nothing to me and I wish ccp would just turn it off (they would have had to actually add content to replace it though which they aren't capable of)
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1420
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:22:00 -
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Give em that long 3XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD
That waht?
DAT LONG 3XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD
DAT BIG OLE 3XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXD
**** the haters, get money
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3322
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:25:00 -
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All that really needs to happen is CCP needs to create garrison districts that effectively shield other timers from being hit.
Bottleneck the fights. It's the real reason people started locking in the first place. Nobody cares for having a million timers. |
Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2031
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:30:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:All that really needs to happen is CCP needs to create garrison districts that effectively shield other timers from being hit.
Bottleneck the fights. It's the real reason people started locking in the first place. Nobody cares for having a million timers.
Not a chance ccp hate bottlenecks in nullsec. They dont want a risk board where you fight on the front lines as it doesn't make sense.
Also having to defend multiple timers is one of the few things ccp built into PC to try and limit amount of districts that can be held by a group
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3326
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:16:00 -
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Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing. |
Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2032
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:24:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
I just never see that happening. One of the few things ccp got right with pc 1.0 is that there is no war fronts. There are district based clone attacks and clone packs.
You do realize what you are asking for would give control of most of PCland to a few corps. what if AE only had to defend 1 out of 5 districts. RA could own and defend all of PC
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:28:00 -
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the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :|
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2032
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:29:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design.
Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it.
I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible.
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2032
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:30:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :|
rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm?
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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:37:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm?
um... ew?
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Derrith Erador
The Panty Pugilists
1318
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:40:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm? um... ew? Don't knock it until you try it. Squeeze some lemon juice and some honey in there and you got yourself a treat. If you've been drinking smoothies, it comes out with a mango flavor.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
Amarrican to the core.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3186
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:44:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible.
I don't see it that way at all. The timers allow for small groups to control the variables. They essentially allow for small groups to control more land than they should be able to.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:46:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Escrow and AE blitzed us we lost some districts because Zatara had real life things and we didn't have enough of the right people on they blitzed the other half of our Districts last night and lost every single one we even had a 5 cap for a moment in one battle they barely got to armor. So while no districts were taken AE and Escrow failed 7-8 battles
The difference between a win and a loss for a match between AE and FA usually comes down to 3 things that have nothing to do with skill level:
Framerate/network lag, disconnects
# of A team players on, aka
Benjamin Ciscko wrote: we didn't have enough of the right people on
Eve support
The time of day and what day it is has everything to do with those last two.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:48:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm? um... ew? "ew?"
Unclear response. Rumor remains.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2032
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible. I don't see it that way at all. The timers allow for small groups to control the variables. They essentially allow for small groups to control more land than they should be able to.
what other option is there besides timers? pretty sure ccp didn't have a better option. I never said it was the right way to go about it, just there isn't a better way to do it.
Every mercs life ends the same way. It is only the details of how he lived and died that distinguishes one from another
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:53:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote: Don't knock it until you try it. Squeeze some lemon juice and some honey in there and you got yourself a treat. If you've been drinking smoothies, it comes out with a mango flavor.
maybe mango smoothies are actually the result of a low budget and a cashier with a full bladder
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Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:18:00 -
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Rampage is Patches O'Houlihan?
There's a message in my Cheerios!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3326
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:44:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing. I just never see that happening. One of the few things ccp got right with pc 1.0 is that there is no war fronts. There are district based clone attacks and clone packs. You do realize what you are asking for would give control of most of PCland to a few corps. what if AE only had to defend 1 out of 5 districts. RA could own and defend all of PC
They are already doing that. If anything, we're about to be pushed out because we can't keep our clone count up on enough districts to launch a military offensive. And if we get pushed out, then that moves it one step closer to MH being controlled by just a handful of corps.
I'm thinking on a smaller scale though. A garrison just defends around 3 or so districts a piece. If there is clone upkeep on them that cripples the monetization of those districts, not all districts will be garrisoned. That also helps keep the front open due to greed and the desire to monetize.
And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:49:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing. I just never see that happening. One of the few things ccp got right with pc 1.0 is that there is no war fronts. There are district based clone attacks and clone packs. You do realize what you are asking for would give control of most of PCland to a few corps. what if AE only had to defend 1 out of 5 districts. RA could own and defend all of PC They are already doing that. If anything, we're about to be pushed out because we can't keep our clone count up on enough districts to launch a military offensive. And if we get pushed out, then that moves it one step closer to MH being controlled by just a handful of corps. I'm thinking on a smaller scale though. A garrison just defends around 3 or so districts a piece. If there is clone upkeep on them that cripples the monetization of those districts, not all districts will be garrisoned. That also helps keep the front open due to greed and the desire to monetize. And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
more isk in my wallet
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
599
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:50:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote: And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
I am looking forward to underwater levels as well. Probably the fanfest announcement. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4637
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:06:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder
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Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:08:00 -
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Another successful defense tonight vs NF despite them calling in more ringers. Was cool to see preston, he did a great job. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:25:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder lol you wish, we all know rampage backpacks the team.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4638
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:38:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder lol you wish, we all know rampage backpacks the team. You backpack as often as kalante FC's
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Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:40:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Escrow and AE blitzed us we lost some districts because Zatara had real life things and we didn't have enough of the right people on they blitzed the other half of our Districts last night and lost every single one we even had a 5 cap for a moment in one battle they barely got to armor. So while no districts were taken AE and Escrow failed 7-8 battles
The difference between a win and a loss for a match between AE and FA usually comes down to 3 things that have nothing to do with skill level: Framerate/network lag, disconnects
# of A team players on, aka
Benjamin Ciscko wrote: we didn't have enough of the right people on
Eve support
The time of day and what day it is has everything to do with those last two.
THIS
But as a corp AE and FA are the best.
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Patrlck 56
34
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:34:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| Because you definitely carry your team.... |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:14:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards?
what you talkin aboot?
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Arunis Gen
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
138
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:21:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot?
CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him?
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:23:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot? CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him?
lol classic response indicative of cluelessness. well played Arunis. Now take off eh
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Arunis Gen
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
139
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:35:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Arunis Gen wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot? CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him? lol classic response indicative of cluelessness. well played Arunis. Now take off eh
Gotta keep up my outward appearance of someone who knows nothing eh.
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:37:00 -
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at least we can all share the sinful pleasure of loving poutine
You should never underestimate the
predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2479
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:18:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:at least we can all share the sinful pleasure of loving poutine You bet your ass we can, that is delicious...
Thunderdome is postponed until corp battles return please stop sending mails to me. QQ at CCP, not at me.
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Brusanan Doesn'tDust
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.03.19 17:10:00 -
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While reading this thread, by the end of it I had forgotten what the OP was even about.
Great blog post C00kie.
Eve-side diplo for General Tso's Alliance.
I don't actually play Dust.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3327
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:03:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible.
I never said it should be a free for all without timers. I said the timers should be more manageable. Small teams, if anything, hold very little power in MH right now. As can be seen, we're winning our battles but we're losing the war. You say that if this change went into effect than small teams like ours would gobble up MH, but how? District count will continue to expand. I don't see that as likely.
And I've yet to see another solution to the problem other than "unplug PC". |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
15
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:50:00 -
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Wait who had thread descends into mudslinging, in the pool? Pays 10 to 1 |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3332
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:54:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
I am looking forward to underwater levels as well. Probably the fanfest announcement.
You already have that. It's called EVE Online, the submarine simulator. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1415
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:12:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:if people were more like me on the forums, the forums would suck I know...
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
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