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DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:37:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm?
um... ew?
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Derrith Erador
The Panty Pugilists
1318
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:40:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm? um... ew? Don't knock it until you try it. Squeeze some lemon juice and some honey in there and you got yourself a treat. If you've been drinking smoothies, it comes out with a mango flavor.
The lone monk who traverses the treacherous worlds of New Eden in search of panty dropper songs.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3186
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Posted - 2014.03.19 04:44:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible.
I don't see it that way at all. The timers allow for small groups to control the variables. They essentially allow for small groups to control more land than they should be able to.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:46:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Escrow and AE blitzed us we lost some districts because Zatara had real life things and we didn't have enough of the right people on they blitzed the other half of our Districts last night and lost every single one we even had a 5 cap for a moment in one battle they barely got to armor. So while no districts were taken AE and Escrow failed 7-8 battles
The difference between a win and a loss for a match between AE and FA usually comes down to 3 things that have nothing to do with skill level:
Framerate/network lag, disconnects
# of A team players on, aka
Benjamin Ciscko wrote: we didn't have enough of the right people on
Eve support
The time of day and what day it is has everything to do with those last two.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:48:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:Free Beers wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| rumor is you drink your own pee. confirm? um... ew? "ew?"
Unclear response. Rumor remains.
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Free Beers
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
2032
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:50:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible. I don't see it that way at all. The timers allow for small groups to control the variables. They essentially allow for small groups to control more land than they should be able to.
what other option is there besides timers? pretty sure ccp didn't have a better option. I never said it was the right way to go about it, just there isn't a better way to do it.
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Arirana
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
457
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:53:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote: Don't knock it until you try it. Squeeze some lemon juice and some honey in there and you got yourself a treat. If you've been drinking smoothies, it comes out with a mango flavor.
maybe mango smoothies are actually the result of a low budget and a cashier with a full bladder
I have an ego?! O.O
The scales have fallen from my eyes.
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Lunatic Kota
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
42
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:18:00 -
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Rampage is Patches O'Houlihan?
There's a message in my Cheerios!
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3326
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:44:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing. I just never see that happening. One of the few things ccp got right with pc 1.0 is that there is no war fronts. There are district based clone attacks and clone packs. You do realize what you are asking for would give control of most of PCland to a few corps. what if AE only had to defend 1 out of 5 districts. RA could own and defend all of PC
They are already doing that. If anything, we're about to be pushed out because we can't keep our clone count up on enough districts to launch a military offensive. And if we get pushed out, then that moves it one step closer to MH being controlled by just a handful of corps.
I'm thinking on a smaller scale though. A garrison just defends around 3 or so districts a piece. If there is clone upkeep on them that cripples the monetization of those districts, not all districts will be garrisoned. That also helps keep the front open due to greed and the desire to monetize.
And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:49:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing. I just never see that happening. One of the few things ccp got right with pc 1.0 is that there is no war fronts. There are district based clone attacks and clone packs. You do realize what you are asking for would give control of most of PCland to a few corps. what if AE only had to defend 1 out of 5 districts. RA could own and defend all of PC They are already doing that. If anything, we're about to be pushed out because we can't keep our clone count up on enough districts to launch a military offensive. And if we get pushed out, then that moves it one step closer to MH being controlled by just a handful of corps. I'm thinking on a smaller scale though. A garrison just defends around 3 or so districts a piece. If there is clone upkeep on them that cripples the monetization of those districts, not all districts will be garrisoned. That also helps keep the front open due to greed and the desire to monetize. And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
more isk in my wallet
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
599
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Posted - 2014.03.19 06:50:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote: And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
I am looking forward to underwater levels as well. Probably the fanfest announcement. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4637
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:06:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:08:00 -
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Another successful defense tonight vs NF despite them calling in more ringers. Was cool to see preston, he did a great job. |
DJINN Rampage
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1121
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:25:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder lol you wish, we all know rampage backpacks the team.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
4638
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:38:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| ***** please... We all know you guys can't win without marauder lol you wish, we all know rampage backpacks the team. You backpack as often as kalante FC's
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Scrappy Bernard
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:40:00 -
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Arirana wrote:Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Escrow and AE blitzed us we lost some districts because Zatara had real life things and we didn't have enough of the right people on they blitzed the other half of our Districts last night and lost every single one we even had a 5 cap for a moment in one battle they barely got to armor. So while no districts were taken AE and Escrow failed 7-8 battles
The difference between a win and a loss for a match between AE and FA usually comes down to 3 things that have nothing to do with skill level: Framerate/network lag, disconnects
# of A team players on, aka
Benjamin Ciscko wrote: we didn't have enough of the right people on
Eve support
The time of day and what day it is has everything to do with those last two.
THIS
But as a corp AE and FA are the best.
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Patrlck 56
34
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:34:00 -
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DJINN Rampage wrote:the only reason we lost was because i wasnt there for single battle. im too sick to play at the moment :| Because you definitely carry your team.... |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:14:00 -
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KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards?
what you talkin aboot?
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predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Arunis Gen
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
138
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:21:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot?
CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him?
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:23:00 -
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Arunis Gen wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot? CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him?
lol classic response indicative of cluelessness. well played Arunis. Now take off eh
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predictability of stupidity - Nietzche
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Arunis Gen
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
139
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:35:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Arunis Gen wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:KenKaniff69 wrote:Roman837 wrote:Hey now!RA Eve guys havnt been chirping on the forums. Dust and Eve although connected..are totally seperate. And here's why...one hour..we may have had an epic fight on the satelite costing untold millions..which always ends in people saying GF and PMs being sent out and guys chatting...the next hour...the same guys you just fought..are the guys coming to your aide Vs some random fleet. We may fight each other to support our dust guys...but any other fleet is red...which in turns makes you guys temporarily blue! So no need to chirp Eve side. Were loving the fights. Dust side..bring on the chirps you bunch of pansy wankers! If two Canadian corps fight each other do they apologize afterwards? what you talkin aboot? CookieStein is Canadian along with a decent amount of our members, therefore we are a Canadian corp. Talk to him? lol classic response indicative of cluelessness. well played Arunis. Now take off eh
Gotta keep up my outward appearance of someone who knows nothing eh.
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
3149
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:37:00 -
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at least we can all share the sinful pleasure of loving poutine
You should never underestimate the
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Killar-12
OLDSPICE. Top Men.
2479
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Posted - 2014.03.19 16:18:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:at least we can all share the sinful pleasure of loving poutine You bet your ass we can, that is delicious...
Thunderdome is postponed until corp battles return please stop sending mails to me. QQ at CCP, not at me.
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Brusanan Doesn'tDust
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
8
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Posted - 2014.03.19 17:10:00 -
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While reading this thread, by the end of it I had forgotten what the OP was even about.
Great blog post C00kie.
Eve-side diplo for General Tso's Alliance.
I don't actually play Dust.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3327
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Posted - 2014.03.19 18:03:00 -
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Free Beers wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Small manageable bottlenecks are a good and healthy thing. Large bottlenecks are a bad thing.
Whatever the intended reason, the timers absolutely kill it. Just having a paltry 8 districts means we have to fight for 8 hours straight. If you play EVE and you have hundreds of players in an alliance who can do that stuff, its manageable to an extent. In this game there are far fewer people capable of being considered A-team material, and individuals burn out easily if you push them for too long.
It's bad game design. Timers are a different thing and there was no other option. If you dont have timers. You go to bed and wake up and NS controls all of districts in MH. CCP learned from FW in eve years ago. Plus you would get nothing but empty fights as attackers would wait till district owners were asleep an take it. I always thought you were a sensible poster but this seems a bit desperate in looking for an excuse now. Especially since what you are calling for would allow small A team to control a lot more of space than is already possible.
I never said it should be a free for all without timers. I said the timers should be more manageable. Small teams, if anything, hold very little power in MH right now. As can be seen, we're winning our battles but we're losing the war. You say that if this change went into effect than small teams like ours would gobble up MH, but how? District count will continue to expand. I don't see that as likely.
And I've yet to see another solution to the problem other than "unplug PC". |
Athena Dare
Revenge of the Fallen IMPS
15
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:50:00 -
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Wait who had thread descends into mudslinging, in the pool? Pays 10 to 1 |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3332
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Posted - 2014.03.20 06:54:00 -
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Fiddlestaxp wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote: And bare in mind that the fights are going to spill onto neighboring magma planets and whatnot in the future. We're inevitably going to have more districts per star system, but we're not guaranteed to see a population increase in the player base to fill that space.
I am looking forward to underwater levels as well. Probably the fanfest announcement.
You already have that. It's called EVE Online, the submarine simulator. |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
1415
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Posted - 2014.03.20 20:12:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:if people were more like me on the forums, the forums would suck I know...
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