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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:44:00 -
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So where are the LR stats? Wy couldnt they just tell us? 100 meters? 200 meters? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:45:00 -
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Ask the SDE.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:15:00 -
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Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:16:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absolureRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in?
pretty sure that translates to 110m and 250m. So it puts them at a little bit longer range than the RR.
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Paran Tadec
The Hetairoi
1971
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:16:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in?
110 and 250m
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
256
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:16:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:So where are the LR stats? Wy couldnt they just tell us? 100 meters? 200 meters?
Probably 100 meters, 200 meter seems abit much, unless they plan on making it really long range. I believe it's 90 meters in 1.7
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
543
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ask the SDE. * shakes sde The sde says 110m range 18.7 damage and 21 heat buildup
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2399
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:20:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in? 110 and 250m LASER SNIPE B*TCHES!!!!!! NOCTURNAL SOUL IS COMING FOR ALL YOU MOFOS
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
785
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:22:00 -
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If i'm reading the SDE correctly then the base damage is different for each tier now (17, 17.85, 18.7)
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13526
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:22:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in? 110 and 250m LASER SNIPE B*TCHES!!!!!! NOCTURNAL SOUL IS COMING FOR ALL YOU MOFOS
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
186
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:24:00 -
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I've been breaking out the LR recently and have had some success with it.... every time I light someone up with it I yell "BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNN!!!!!!" |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7637
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:30:00 -
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What about the shortest effective range?
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2014.03.18 20:35:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:What about the shortest effective range? I'm not sure what attribute that's stored in. There's nothing I can see with an obvious name for this value.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1114
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Posted - 2014.03.18 21:04:00 -
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I just uploaded a CSV of the laser rifle data on Google Drive. You should be able to open it in Excel or any other spreadsheet app.
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1115
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:09:00 -
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So, the million-dollar question is, will this be enough range to get the job done. I would have liked the effective to be more like 120-130ish personally. I'm willing to wait-and-see though.
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Garth Mandra
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
353
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:06:00 -
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Vell0cet wrote:So, the million-dollar question is, will this be enough range to get the job done. I would have liked the effective to be more like 120-130ish personally. I'm willing to wait-and-see though.
The main issue at the moment is not being able to compete with rail rifles.
An effective range of 120m should be plenty to compete. If I recall correctly effective range should be about 30% damage efficiency.
This will probably turn the long range meta from RR dominance to LR dominance. Depending on the mysterious changes to short range LR damage this should give the LR back its niche. If the laser suddenly becomes useful in short range and CQC then it'll just be the RR once again.
No sign of an optimal range number in Vell0cet's csv unfortunately. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2434
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:07:00 -
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Agreed. I would have liked 120m as well. But, depending on how fast it drops off to 250, things could get verrrrry interesting.....
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
3181
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:10:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I've been breaking out the LR recently and have had some success with it.... every time I light someone up with it I yell "BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNN!!!!!!"
I want to squad up with you, but only if you do this with the Playstation Eye as your mic with your window open.
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
52
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:44:00 -
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Well, does the RR have bonus damage on armor?
Then it will be Caldari Commando with Laser Rifle (for shields) and Rail Rifle (for armor). |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8387
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:50:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in? 110 and 250m LASER SNIPE B*TCHES!!!!!! NOCTURNAL SOUL IS COMING FOR ALL YOU MOFOS
You fair weather Amarrians.....eugh......
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Vell0cet
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1119
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:53:00 -
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Garth Mandra wrote:Vell0cet wrote:So, the million-dollar question is, will this be enough range to get the job done. I would have liked the effective to be more like 120-130ish personally. I'm willing to wait-and-see though. The main issue at the moment is not being able to compete with rail rifles. An effective range of 120m should be plenty to compete. If I recall correctly effective range should be about 30% damage efficiency. This will probably turn the long range meta from RR dominance to LR dominance. Depending on the mysterious changes to short range LR damage this should give the LR back its niche. If the laser suddenly becomes useful in short range and CQC then it'll just be the RR once again. No sign of an optimal range number in Vell0cet's csv unfortunately. I hope you're right. If a LR is sitting at 100-110m going 1v1 against a RR, then the LR should win 99% of the time, if it can't then it needs more range until it can. For me that's the litmus test for LR viability. It has a TON of drawbacks (which I'm totally fine with) that make it difficult/situational to use, it needs to be dominant in some aspect to make up for this or you will always be better off choosing something more versatile.
As for the optimal range, I didn't find anything. My SQL-fu isn't that great , so maybe it's hidden in another table somewhere that I didn't find/notice. In all likelihood that stuff is hard-coded into the game because that weapon has such unique behavior that creating attributes (rows in the database) that would be blank for every-other weapon would be pretty wasteful.
I don't want a close-range buff to be honest. I like it having a long range niche that keeps it from being OP or the FOTM.
@John Demonsbane: As for the drop off to absolute range, I'm sure it's rather abrupt (like it is now when something gets out of your effective range), unless they made an exception for this weapon we haven't heard about. As a reference, the RR has the same absolute range.
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Iago Templar
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
51
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Posted - 2014.03.19 01:59:00 -
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Looking forward to scorching my name into peeps with the new and improved laser pen. |
Mikey The Bandaid
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
196
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:02:00 -
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STEALTH HUNTER ZERO wrote:I've been breaking out the LR recently and have had some success with it.... every time I light someone up with it I yell "BUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRNNNN!!!!!!" this is true. makes me laugh every single time lol. |
Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
786
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:09:00 -
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Garth Mandra wrote:Vell0cet wrote:So, the million-dollar question is, will this be enough range to get the job done. I would have liked the effective to be more like 120-130ish personally. I'm willing to wait-and-see though. The main issue at the moment is not being able to compete with rail rifles. An effective range of 120m should be plenty to compete. If I recall correctly effective range should be about 30% damage efficiency. This will probably turn the long range meta from RR dominance to LR dominance. Depending on the mysterious changes to short range LR damage this should give the LR back its niche. If the laser suddenly becomes useful in short range and CQC then it'll just be the RR once again. No sign of an optimal range number in Vell0cet's csv unfortunately. Just so ya know even it the LR had full close range damage it would suck at cqc as its hipfire is WAY to accurate for the two steppers. To give ya an example the HMG had the LR's hip fire from uprising 1.0-1.7 and how useful was it xD
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8389
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:16:00 -
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Iago Templar wrote:Looking forward to scorching my name into peeps with the new and improved laser pen.
Why weren't you doing it this build?
Half of these self professed laser "I'm gonna scorch mah name into you" guys will get wrecked by those who have been using the laser since uprising 1.0
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Rusty Shallows
1158
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Posted - 2014.03.19 02:22:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Paran Tadec wrote:Vell0cet wrote:Looking at the SDE the mFireMode0.effectiveRange = 11,000.0 and the mFireMode0.absoluteRange = 25,000.0 for the wpn_laserrifle_am_std.
Does anyone know what units they're in? 110 and 250m LASER SNIPE B*TCHES!!!!!! NOCTURNAL SOUL IS COMING FOR ALL YOU MOFOS Without your stacked damage mods and off-target cooking at best you'll be a terrifying menace to society. No Eve Godhood for you.
However I will be cowering hiding in cover or LAVs accordingly.
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Iago Templar
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Iago Templar wrote:Looking forward to scorching my name into peeps with the new and improved laser pen. Why weren't you doing it this build? Half of these self professed laser "I'm gonna scorch mah name into you" guys will get wrecked by those who have been using the laser since uprising 1.0
I have been trying to keep my eye in with the LR but sometimes the scr was just more useful at the time in matches. Its gonna take a little while to get my old mojo back with it but I'm confident I'll be back to my old ways in no time. |
Musta Tornius
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1162
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:50:00 -
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There are no optimal ranges in the SDE, you'll have to wait and see when 1.8 comes out.
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Beld Errmon
Nyain Chan
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:17:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Iago Templar wrote:Looking forward to scorching my name into peeps with the new and improved laser pen. Why weren't you doing it this build? Half of these self professed laser "I'm gonna scorch mah name into you" guys will get wrecked by those who have been using the laser since uprising 1.0
I too am looking forward to using this weapon again, other than the coolness of it being a laser though theres been no good reason to use it this build, getting out ranged and out dps'd by rail guns totally turned me off using it. |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
2436
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Posted - 2014.03.19 11:42:00 -
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Yeah, 1.7 has been almost LR free for me too. Pulled it out at most once a week maybe just for the heck of it but too frustrating with the RR spam. Just started using it a bit more now so I'll be ready to go once 1.8 hits.
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