TL;DR: Logis shouldn't have more high/low slots than Assaults.

Of course there's other things like they shouldn't have lower shield recharge delays, but I think the slots are the biggest thing.

But good post nonetheless.

your so silly, I guess 10% ROF means nothing to you. Even after damage mods are nerfed.

Funkmaster Whale, are you trying to get CCP to jack the CPU/PG for Shield Extenders?

No I'm trying to get them to fix the stats and bonuses on the Assault suit to actually make them worthy.

I agree with funk that the cal assault stats are very underwhelming and need some rebalancing...

But I want to point this out I have 30 million SP and 1 protosuit that being the Cal Logi and I can safely say easily 70% of my deaths come during the reload. The lack of a sidearm is huge and will be even more important in 1.8 with the weapon proficiency changes.

I have no idea why the cal logi is getting a shorter recharge delay then the assault because that is dumb.

I never use a sidearm with my assault so it makes no difference to me. Gotta find that cover!

Trade the assault high and low with logis for a start.. A hack bonus seems more of an assault stat than a logi.. The shield recharge **** should be fixed as well.

I agree with funk that the cal assault stats are very underwhelming and need some rebalancing...

But I want to point this out I have 30 million SP and 1 protosuit that being the Cal Logi and I can safely say easily 70% of my deaths come during the reload. The lack of a sidearm is huge and will be even more important in 1.8 with the weapon proficiency changes.

I have no idea why the cal logi is getting a shorter recharge delay then the assault because that is dumb.

Wow,next you'll say "and give assaults 3 extra equipment slots logis don't need them either".
You are a fool with slot envy.
Logistics is everything BUT killing,and HACKING is part of everything.
You are a moron or just can't read.
The dev blog says those slots are there for future eq based modules.

True in this build TTK is so short that reload almost never comes up, in 1.8 however less damage and proficiency changes will be a big hit to slayer logis which is why my use of the cal logi will end.

Instead of nerfing the logistics buff the Assault, unless you want TWO under performing suits, then by all means need the crap out of it.

Fair enough. I die during reload all the time as well.

But the bonus CalAssault gets will give a 25% bonus to reload speed ONLY to rail weapons, meaning: Rail Rifle, MagSec SMG, Sniper Rifle, and Bolt Pistol. For the Rail Rifle, that's a 0.75s faster reload.

Lacking a sidearm does sort of suck, but as it stands most of the time it's incredibly difficult to even fit a sidearm. That'll change in 1.8 of course but to me a sidearm doesn't make up for all the bonuses the Logi suits get. 3 Eq means I'm way more versatile to my team than a sidearm.

I'll just continue to play like an Assault just with better bonuses. CCP's attempt to balance Slayer Logis has only made them better. Bravo.

I never called for a nerf to Logistics. I'm just pointing out what the current iteration in stats means. At this point it's way too late to change anything.

I'm simply pointing out how much CCP has ****** up (no surprise honestly) in trying to balance the Slayer Logi issue that's been prevalent since Uprising 1.0.

The only difference now is that I'm no longer going with Assault in hopes that they'll eventually balance it. We all know how that turned out.

your so silly, I guess 10% ROF means nothing to you. Even after damage mods are nerfed.

You really shouldn't **** me off, so lay off. You don't like what I say then tell me how you would improve it instead of insulting me.

I call em as i see em.
And you my good sir are a turd.

And as for a bonus to make assaults more appealing i've already made this thread:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1922546#post1922546

Just a general thought. The Logistics need their tank, but if that's the only problem then just give the Assaults the same slots also.

Why do the Logistics need their tank? They are not meant to be taking fire; more in the back with equipment while laying down support fire. I think all that can be said is "Logistics need the tank; that's why they have more slots." I think the 'fact' came before the reasoning though. "Logistics have more slots, so they must need the tank." Assaults don't need the tank because they don't have the slots by that logic.

There has to be some kind of trade off aside from a Sidearm, which many Assaults don't have because of fitting restrictions, when it comes to being a Logistics. Think of it like this:
"You can go Suit A that has a Sidearm and 50 more EHP or you can go Suit B, that has more CPU/PG, faster depleted shield recharge, and two more equipment slots." That is the same exact problem now. Logistics are able to do tanking/fighting just as well as Assaults but also have equipment.

Every other game has some kind of detriment for the utility of being a Support; the same needs to be true with DUST.