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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2681
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:44:00 -
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I get that they are using yin and yang, but all the Caldari assaults stats are better then the Gallente's.
It got a 2 go rep(finally) and that's it. It doesn't make sense, how can it have worst stats and not at least have a better ehp pool?
Isn't that meant to be armours perk? Higher hp output with a drawback of being slower.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
2156
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:45:00 -
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once you equip mods the gal will have more hp.
the difference without mods is at best negligible. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2087
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:46:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:once you equip mods the gal will have more hp.
Not if you try to rep tank you get less HP and less repair.
For the Federation!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2682
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:52:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:once you equip mods the gal will have more hp.
the difference without mods is at best negligible.
A shield tanked suit can get as much armour as a armour tanked suit, but a armour tanked suit can not get same amount of shield as a shield tanked suit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
214
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:55:00 -
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So you guys want the best Assault as well ???
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2683
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:59:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ???
Well, it would be nice not to have the worst.
We have bad stats and a bad bonus.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
103
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:04:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus.
GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******)
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
840
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:08:00 -
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Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:14:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******)
Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are.
The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag.
Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:16:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it.
Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed.
Deal?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
11184
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:30:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******)
Sorry, did you just suggest using the ion pistol? 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Sorry, did you just suggest using the ion pistol?
But it has the lowest range and DPS!
I'm still using it...
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
32
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:39:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison.
Caldari have a reload bonus... in my opinion that's a bad bonus compared to the others... |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2685
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:43:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. Caldari have a reload bonus... in my opinion that's a bad bonus compared to the others...
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
11185
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:50:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Dauth Jenkins
Ultramarine Corp
231
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Posted - 2014.03.16 18:17:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload.
Wait, do you guys not reload after every gunfight?
Sees prototompers...
Sees blueberries start to snipe...
Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2686
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:46:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload. Wait, do you guys not reload after every gunfight?
Na, they just throw their weapon at the enemy in hopes in will somehow hurt them.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
3967
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:44:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:calisk galern wrote:once you equip mods the gal will have more hp.
the difference without mods is at best negligible. A shield tanked suit can get as much armour as a armour tanked suit, but a armour tanked suit can not get same amount of shield as a shield tanked suit.
Finally I'm not the only one that has noticed this!!!!!
This is why most Caldari suits are OP
A proto callogi, can tank more aarmour than my proto amarr logi.
WTH is wrong with that?
MinScout- "I'm going to knife you my commando"
commando turns around
Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
Lokun Listamenn
3530
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Posted - 2014.03.17 01:46:00 -
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CCP Copious Caldari Projects lol
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1880
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:12:00 -
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So what you guys only have 3 lows?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows?
At STD and ADV, yes.
We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4674
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:28:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus.
You obviously never used a Minmatar Assault.
That suit makes everything else look OP.
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:51:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. You obviously never used a Minmatar Assault. That suit makes everything else look OP.
The Minmatar suit is only bad because of its lack of lows and how good plates are right now. At least your bonus is good.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1881
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:52:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps.
Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto?
1/2/3
So you use 2 plates, like us.
Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour.
We can not get your level of shields.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Roy Ventus
Axis of Chaos
1392
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:24:00 -
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At this point, I rather wait for 1.8 than really discuss it because we're having back and forth talk about everything.
This is UP but someone else says it's OP
But wait let's nerf it, but let's buff it
My suits useless compared to your suit, but your suit is useless compared to my suit
I personally think the Gallente Assault is still highly effective. You can rep quicker with less cost and you can throw on armor still.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
1881
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:24:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? 1/2/3 So you use 2 plates, like us. Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour. We can not get your level of shields.
It's basically the same, if we want a close rep match to you then we need 2 reppers which leaves 1 plate, most people run 1-2 DMG mods but in 1.8 that'll change so we have 66 more shields but a way slower rep time.
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Testing Turbo
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:26:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal?
If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:28:00 -
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Testing Turbo wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure
Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
823
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:29:00 -
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I think the Cal assault is the better assault suit.
I think Gal is the better logi suit.
But, really, I think they are fairly evenly matched. |
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