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Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2681	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:44:00 - [1] - Quote I get that they are using yin and yang, but all the Caldari assaults stats are better then the Gallente's. It got a 2 go rep(finally) and that's it. It doesn't make sense, how can it have worst stats and not at least have a better ehp pool? Isn't that meant to be armours perk? Higher hp output with a drawback of being slower. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2156	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:45:00 - [2] - Quote once you equip mods the gal will have more hp. the difference without mods is at best negligible.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2087	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:46:00 - [3] - Quote calisk galern wrote: once you equip mods the gal will have more hp. Not if you try to rep tank you get less HP and less repair. For the Federation!
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2682	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:52:00 - [4] - Quote calisk galern wrote: once you equip mods the gal will have more hp. the difference without mods is at best negligible. A shield tanked suit can get as much armour as a armour tanked suit, but a armour tanked suit can not get same amount of shield as a shield tanked suit. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 214	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:55:00 - [5] - Quote So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? "Shine bright like a diamond"
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2683	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:59:00 - [6] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 103	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:04:00 - [7] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 840	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:08:00 - [8] - Quote Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2684	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:14:00 - [9] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new ******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. "I do agree with you there though. shudders*" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2684	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:16:00 - [10] - Quote Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11184	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:30:00 - [11] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new ******) Sorry, did you just suggest using the ion pistol? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.*
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2684	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:31:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new ******) Sorry, did you just suggest using the ion pistol? But it has the lowest range and DPS! I'm still using it... "I do agree with you there though. shudders*" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 32	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:39:00 - [13] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. Caldari have a reload bonus... in my opinion that's a bad bonus compared to the others...
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2685	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:43:00 - [14] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new ******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. Caldari have a reload bonus... in my opinion that's a bad bonus compared to the others... At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR. The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?) "I do agree with you there though. shudders*" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 11185	Posted - 2014.03.16 17:50:00 - [15] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR. The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?) It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 231	Posted - 2014.03.16 18:17:00 - [16] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR. The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?) It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload. Wait, do you guys not reload after every gunfight? Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2686	Posted - 2014.03.17 00:46:00 - [17] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR. The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?) It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload. Wait, do you guys not reload after every gunfight? Na, they just throw their weapon at the enemy in hopes in will somehow hurt them. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 3967	Posted - 2014.03.17 01:44:00 - [18] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: calisk galern wrote: once you equip mods the gal will have more hp. the difference without mods is at best negligible. A shield tanked suit can get as much armour as a armour tanked suit, but a armour tanked suit can not get same amount of shield as a shield tanked suit. Finally I'm not the only one that has noticed this!!!!! This is why most Caldari suits are OP A proto callogi, can tank more aarmour than my proto amarr logi. WTH is wrong with that? MinScout- "I'm going to knife you my commando" commando turns around Commando- "FAAAAALCCCOOONNNNN PUUUUNNNCCCCHH!!"
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3530	Posted - 2014.03.17 01:46:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Copious Caldari Projects lol Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1880	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:12:00 - [20] - Quote So what you guys only have 3 lows? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:28:00 - [21] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4674	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:28:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. You obviously never used a Minmatar Assault. That suit makes everything else look OP. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:51:00 - [23] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. You obviously never used a Minmatar Assault. That suit makes everything else look OP. The Minmatar suit is only bad because of its lack of lows and how good plates are right now. At least your bonus is good. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1881	Posted - 2014.03.17 02:52:00 - [24] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:13:00 - [25] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? 1/2/3 So you use 2 plates, like us. Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour. We can not get your level of shields. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1392	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:24:00 - [26] - Quote At this point, I rather wait for 1.8 than really discuss it because we're having back and forth talk about everything. This is UP but someone else says it's OP But wait let's nerf it, but let's buff it My suits useless compared to your suit, but your suit is useless compared to my suit I personally think the Gallente Assault is still highly effective. You can rep quicker with less cost and you can throw on armor still. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1881	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:24:00 - [27] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? 1/2/3 So you use 2 plates, like us. Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour. We can not get your level of shields. It's basically the same, if we want a close rep match to you then we need 2 reppers which leaves 1 plate, most people run 1-2 DMG mods but in 1.8 that'll change so we have 66 more shields but a way slower rep time. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Testing Turbo Bragian Order Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:26:00 - [28] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:28:00 - [29] - Quote Testing Turbo wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 823	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:29:00 - [30] - Quote I think the Cal assault is the better assault suit. I think Gal is the better logi suit. But, really, I think they are fairly evenly matched.
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1881	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:32:00 - [31] - Quote I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Testing Turbo Bragian Order Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:33:00 - [32] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Testing Turbo wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods) If we get lower fitting costs and higher HP and you have higher fitting costs and less HP sure
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:37:00 - [33] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? 1/2/3 So you use 2 plates, like us. Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour. We can not get your level of shields. It's basically the same, if we want a close rep match to you then we need 2 reppers which leaves 1 plate, most people run 1-2 DMG mods but in 1.8 that'll change so we have 66 more shields but a way slower rep time. Do you mean the shield delay from extenders? How much are you losing? It's just a simple fact that most Caldari assaults run plates in the lows and usually have around 450 armour. So a Caldari assault can get 400+ shields and 400 armour and still have their main source of hp rep at a high level. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:38:00 - [34] - Quote Testing Turbo wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Testing Turbo wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods) If we get lower fitting costs and higher HP and you have higher fitting costs and less HP sure Are we talking about extenders vs plates? Because in talking about suits. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2688	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:40:00 - [35] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Ah, but that is the point. The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions. Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 456	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:48:00 - [36] - Quote This is why we need 8 slots. Cal 7-3/6-4 Amarr 2-8 Gallente 3-7/4-6 Minmatar 5-5 Gallente get a 2.0 armor repair module multiplier Caldari get a 2.0 shield regulator multiplier Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Gallente Heavy Ninja Turtles! Heroes in a half Gank! *TURTLE POWER!!!*
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1881	Posted - 2014.03.17 03:55:00 - [37] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Ah, but that is the point. The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions. Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm. Have you used the minmatar lmfao... They have a right to complain not you, don't like your suit then skill gal logi 1.8 it's the best logi in the game and you get some nice tank. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2690	Posted - 2014.03.17 04:40:00 - [38] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Ah, but that is the point. The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions. Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm. Have you used the minmatar lmfao... They have a right to complain not you, don't like your suit then skill gal logi 1.8 it's the best logi in the game and you get some nice tank. Have you used the Gallente Assault? It had the worst and 2nd worst stats of all suits. The Minmatat Assault might be bad, but that's only because of the lows. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Heimdallr69 Heaven's Lost Property 1881	Posted - 2014.03.17 05:19:00 - [39] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Ah, but that is the point. The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions. Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm. Have you used the minmatar lmfao... They have a right to complain not you, don't like your suit then skill gal logi 1.8 it's the best logi in the game and you get some nice tank. Have you used the Gallente Assault? It had the worst and 2nd worst stats of all suits. The Minmatat Assault might be bad, but that's only because of the lows. I see gal ass more than cal ass I see logis more than any assault and now heavies are becoming a fotm Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Luna Angelo We Who Walk Alone 807	Posted - 2014.03.17 05:40:00 - [40] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? Ok, I'll give you that if you remove the recharge delay on shields and fix it so that we can repair it while under fire. I don't need luck, I have ammo. Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. CEO of We Who Walk Alone
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2690	Posted - 2014.03.17 05:56:00 - [41] - Quote Luna Angelo wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? Ok, I'll give you that if you remove the recharge delay on shields and fix it so that we can repair it while under fire. Great, now we have armour and shields that repair forever! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2451	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:05:00 - [42] - Quote What is this bollocks? Some 1 complaining about the gallente assault beeing UP? Seriously what are you doing? You are supposed to put damage mods in the high slots and something like 2 reppers+2plates in the low. A complex plate gives double as much HP like a complex shield extender. If you would have constantly repped suits without a module then every 1 and their mother would run armor suits. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2690	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:13:00 - [43] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: What is this bollocks? Some 1 complaining about the gallente assault beeing UP? Seriously what are you doing? You are supposed to put damage mods in the high slots and something like 2 reppers+2plates in the low. A complex plate gives double as much HP like a complex shield extender. If you would have constantly repped suits without a module then every 1 and their mother would run armor suits. Wow, that's what I've been saying. We are a armour based suit but every other suit can run just as much or more armour with less penalty. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Asha Starwind DUST University Ivy League 509	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:15:00 - [44] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I get that they are using yin and yang, but all the Caldari assaults stats are better then the Gallente's. It got a 2 go rep(finally) and that's it. It doesn't make sense, how can it have worst stats and not at least have a better ehp pool? Isn't that meant to be armours perk? Higher hp output with a drawback of being slower. After you stack plates they don't. You obviously know this so why are making this thread? 32db Mad Bomber.
Alena Ventrallis The Neutral Zone 845	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:40:00 - [45] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Alena Ventrallis wrote: Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? So armor has: 1. rep hives 2. rep tool 3. more hp Shields have: 1. passive rep You owe me two more advantages. Best PVE idea I've seen.
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 866	Posted - 2014.03.17 06:48:00 - [46] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Master Smurf wrote: So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GÇª..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *****) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. Huh. Just logged off of my proto Callogi with Duvolle AR, and i had 511 shield, 31.6 recharge, and a recharge delay of like 4 seconds. Compared to my main's minassault, i can run 25+/5 consistently. Min assault can't get as good of a recharge rate, shield HP or recharge delays. Caldari assault/midframe gets 4/3, meaning 500+ shield AND 2 spare low slots when you use a CPU. Min assault gets maybe 1, however they have even less PG than caldari. Stop whining about your lack of a beastly bonus. Amarr is super slow and gets -maybe- 100 extra health. Minmatar gainst .3 walking speed...and that's it. Caldari gets the best shield stats, best slot layout, AND fitting layout. Gallente gets a bonus that lets them use a Gek/duvolle like a breach AR, but without the drawbacks of 30% reduced DPS. Minmatar gets a bonus that lets them shoot 40% of their clip before dying. Great job CCP. **** slot layout meets a bonus designed for stand and deliver roles. Honestly i would like gallente to hve clipsize, minmatar to have RoF, and caldai to have hipfire(of course after nerfing their hipfire accuracy, no need for quake level accurate snipers) 'Sorry Dakka, they're just so... Beautiful.' -cries- Tits are my new god, as the Galscout has enlightened me.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 119	Posted - 2014.03.17 07:17:00 - [47] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. One suit to rule them all Seriously though, the idea is that each suit SHOULD have its pros and cons GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa

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