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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:44:00 -
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I get that they are using yin and yang, but all the Caldari assaults stats are better then the Gallente's.
It got a 2 go rep(finally) and that's it. It doesn't make sense, how can it have worst stats and not at least have a better ehp pool?
Isn't that meant to be armours perk? Higher hp output with a drawback of being slower.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2682
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:52:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:once you equip mods the gal will have more hp.
the difference without mods is at best negligible.
A shield tanked suit can get as much armour as a armour tanked suit, but a armour tanked suit can not get same amount of shield as a shield tanked suit.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2683
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Posted - 2014.03.16 16:59:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ???
Well, it would be nice not to have the worst.
We have bad stats and a bad bonus.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:14:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******)
Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are.
The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag.
Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:16:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it.
Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed.
Deal?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2684
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:31:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Sorry, did you just suggest using the ion pistol? 
But it has the lowest range and DPS!
I'm still using it...
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2685
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Posted - 2014.03.16 17:43:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. GǪ..you guys have a great assault slot layout (look at minmitar assault and you have the definition of useless), and your bonus is not bad at al all (hint: use the duvolle tactical and ion pistol and you will tear caldari suits a new *******) Minmatar suits only suffer because of the lack of lows and how effective stacking armour plates are. The bonus is just bad compared to the Minmatar and Amarr bonuses, we all know how good a ScR is when fitted on a Proto Amarr assault and the CR is going to be even more deadly with its high ammo count in the mag. Giving us a bonus that might make the TAR or a sidearm slightly better isn't really so good in comparison. Caldari have a reload bonus... in my opinion that's a bad bonus compared to the others...
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2686
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Posted - 2014.03.17 00:46:00 -
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Dauth Jenkins wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:
At least it positively effects all Caldari weapons in the same way, it also helps boost a big downside to the RR.
The Gallente some helps the AR, hurts the breach, helps the TAR(a variant weapon that is worst then the ScR) hurts the shotgun, does nothing for the plasma cannon and some helps the Ion Pistol(yay?)
It's better than a reload bonus on weapons which barely need to reload. Wait, do you guys not reload after every gunfight?
Na, they just throw their weapon at the enemy in hopes in will somehow hurt them.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:28:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows?
At STD and ADV, yes.
We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 02:51:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Master Smurf wrote:So you guys want the best Assault as well ??? Well, it would be nice not to have the worst. We have bad stats and a bad bonus. You obviously never used a Minmatar Assault. That suit makes everything else look OP.
The Minmatar suit is only bad because of its lack of lows and how good plates are right now. At least your bonus is good.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto?
1/2/3
So you use 2 plates, like us.
Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour.
We can not get your level of shields.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:28:00 -
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Testing Turbo wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure
Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods)
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:37:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:So what you guys only have 3 lows? At STD and ADV, yes. We gain 1 extra high at Proto, but usually half of these slots are used for reps. Okay cal ass has 3 at proto fit 1 rep and that makes 2 slots but very long rep time. You have 3 highs or just 2 at proto? 1/2/3 So you use 2 plates, like us. Like I said, you can run 2 plates and get slight less armour then us or just run 3 and get our same armour. We can not get your level of shields. It's basically the same, if we want a close rep match to you then we need 2 reppers which leaves 1 plate, most people run 1-2 DMG mods but in 1.8 that'll change so we have 66 more shields but a way slower rep time. Do you mean the shield delay from extenders? How much are you losing?
It's just a simple fact that most Caldari assaults run plates in the lows and usually have around 450 armour. So a Caldari assault can get 400+ shields and 400 armour and still have their main source of hp rep at a high level.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:38:00 -
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Testing Turbo wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Testing Turbo wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? If you take 8 seconds to begin repairing after taking damage and that increases the more armor plates you stack .. sure Yes, just so long as your repair goes down to 2 a second(without mods) If we get lower fitting costs and higher HP and you have higher fitting costs and less HP sure
Are we talking about extenders vs plates? Because in talking about suits.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.17 03:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits.
Ah, but that is the point.
The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions.
Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2690
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Posted - 2014.03.17 04:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:I don't understand the point of this... The suits are supposed to be evenly matched not one be king of the suits. Ah, but that is the point. The Gallente assault is a bad suit. Not evenly matched, it is worst then the other versions. Just as the AR is the worst rifle and the Ion Pistol will be the worst new sidearm. Have you used the minmatar lmfao... They have a right to complain not you, don't like your suit then skill gal logi 1.8 it's the best logi in the game and you get some nice tank.
Have you used the Gallente Assault?
It had the worst and 2nd worst stats of all suits. The Minmatat Assault might be bad, but that's only because of the lows.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2690
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Posted - 2014.03.17 05:56:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Give me shield rep hives, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders that give more than 2 ar rounds of hp, and I'll consider it. Ok, just give me built in reps that repair 30 a second with no module needed and higher speed. Deal? Ok, I'll give you that if you remove the recharge delay on shields and fix it so that we can repair it while under fire.
Great, now we have armour and shields that repair forever!
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2690
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Posted - 2014.03.17 06:13:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:What is this bollocks? Some 1 complaining about the gallente assault beeing UP? Seriously what are you doing? You are supposed to put damage mods in the high slots and something like 2 reppers+2plates in the low. A complex plate gives double as much HP like a complex shield extender. If you would have constantly repped suits without a module then every 1 and their mother would run armor suits.
Wow, that's what I've been saying. We are a armour based suit but every other suit can run just as much or more armour with less penalty.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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