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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.18 13:26:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Testing Turbo wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Penalty is already laughable.
On the Caldari scout, 4x complex extenders adds an extra second.
If anything the penalty should increase. Lets look at the armor plate penalty .. ... hmm .. increase the speed penalty of armor if you increase the delay on shields 4 plates should make you as slow as a heavy Nope because armor gets more gimped through the penalty than shields. shields get max 7% to depleted shield delay (note no penalty to shield delay) armor gets max 5% to walking speed to sprintspeed (seems to get double penalty due to a possible bug) to jump hight to strafe speed (seems to get double penalty due to a possible bug) ANd the shield penalty can be completely nullified through regulators that go to lows (not reducing potential hp) where armor can just nullify the sprint speed penalty by reducing potential hp (kincats go to the low)
i do think the speed penalty needs to be raised on th basic and advanced plates-they give too much HP for the paltry penalty. Im thinking 2% basic, 3-4% Advancd
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.20 01:58:00 -
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bumpily bump bump
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.22 02:59:00 -
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bump
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:03:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Testing Turbo wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Penalty is already laughable.
On the Caldari scout, 4x complex extenders adds an extra second.
If anything the penalty should increase. Lets look at the armor plate penalty .. ... hmm .. increase the speed penalty of armor if you increase the delay on shields 4 plates should make you as slow as a heavy Nope because armor gets more gimped through the penalty than shields. shields get max 7% to depleted shield delay (note no penalty to shield delay) armor gets max 5% to walking speed to sprintspeed (seems to get double penalty due to a possible bug) to jump hight to strafe speed (seems to get double penalty due to a possible bug) ANd the shield penalty can be completely nullified through regulators that go to lows (not reducing potential hp) where armor can just nullify the sprint speed penalty by reducing potential hp (kincats go to the low)
Therefore balance
And shields would be screwed more if we got more delay
Closed beta vet
Logi,
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Python,
Scout.
Dark souls 2 new game plus.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.22 03:28:00 -
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these right now are just simple number changes that NEED to be implemented. Also, I'm fine with shields costing 20% more CPU than i suggested and plates costing 20% more PG than they do, just to make utility mods used more often
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.25 02:39:00 -
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please can i get some CCP feedback? are you guys planning to implement any of this? or should i go back to my gimped minmitar frames that are killed by these awful fitting requirements and even worse scaling?
Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.25 03:29:00 -
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Kills-Archduke Ferdinand
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Villanor Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:28:00 -
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I like option 1.
Proto is not supposed to be a huge benefit over adv. It's meant to be that slight edge with significant costs along with it and that's why I think option 1 is appropriate.
I think regulators also could use a bump to 20, 28, 33 and a slight fitting cost increase as well. I believe them being too weak per slot right now and per fitting is only exacerbating the issue of dual tanking. |
The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:34:00 -
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Fitting values for proto are too high. Why pay 2x the cpu for a laughable 10 hp? I also do not understand why the fitting costs for armor jump so much from advanced to proto for a mere 25 hp which translates to less than 1 bullet. |
Cenex Langly
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:36:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:GǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪSTDGǪGǪGǪ.. ADVGǪGǪGǪ.PRO
HP(opt.1/opt.2)GǪGǪGǪ41/33 GǪGǪ.. 56/44GǪGǪGǪ66/66
Fittings(CPU/PG) GǪGǪ10/1GǪGǪGǪGǪ30/4GǪGǪGǪ..60/6
PenaltyGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪGǪ3%GǪGǪGǪGǪ..4%GǪGǪGǪGǪ 7%
If you are interested in how I obtained these numbers, the answer is in my signature's link
I think the upgrade from std to adv to proto is lopsided. To much of an increase from adv to proto (22) vs the std to adv (11). Something like 33/48/66, and the penalty around 3%/4%/5%
I have absolutely no grounds or basis for my numbers other than the 7% is so high when added up on a huge buffer, 4+ plates. And I prefer a much more even upgrade from std to adv to proto gear. I don't like to see a lopsided increase from one module to the next tier.
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