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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:12:00 -
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According to your newly released table here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/heavysuits18.png
It is listed as 1sec. I vaguely recall this error being noticed on the original spreadsheet you guys distributed a month or so ago, someone else spotted the error and a dev said it was 'possibly' an error.
Well is it? I mean 1 sec...that's kind of.....ummm....OP? Anyways, some clarification here would be appreciated. (It will look much better than the mini for HMG tanking/rooftop camping FG if this is the case)
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:13:00 -
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I'm sure it's a type. Three seconds is believable, given what the Caldari are.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:19:00 -
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I agree, and with the rest of the heavies highest depleted being 6 sec, I think 4 is a perfect number (3s with a reg and 60+hp regen = 20s to restore 1000 shield ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png)
I just don't understand why they would release this table with a known/identified mistake? Then again, it is CCP.
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:22:00 -
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Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:23:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though.
Can you link me the thread please?
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:26:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please?
Nerf to damage mods wont make it very beastly |
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:29:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:
Nerf to damage mods wont make it very beastly
It is still the largest alpha spike weapon (not turret) in the game. Capable of OHKO anything but Gal Sent. Dmg mods or not, playstyle will remain largely unaffected. DMG mods affect AV much much more. In the land of Hi TTK, alpha spikes will be king.
EDIT: I run forge for anti infantry. The vehicles are just bonus points.
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Night 5talker 514
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:34:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:According to your newly released table here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/heavysuits18.pngIt is listed as 1sec. I vaguely recall this error being noticed on the original spreadsheet you guys distributed a month or so ago, someone else spotted the error and a dev said it was 'possibly' an error. Well is it? I mean 1 sec...that's kind of.....ummm....OP? Anyways, some clarification here would be appreciated. (It will look much better than the mini for HMG tanking/rooftop camping FG if this is the case)
It's not a typo, it's meant to be that way. I can't link the thread, but definitely remember reading it. Imagine a longer delay and now use flux grenades... It would render the suit as useless. This gives it a chances against flux, only a slight chance mind.
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:34:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I'm sure it's a type. Three seconds is believable, given what the Caldari are.
Nope a Dev said a while back that this is intended 1sec. If this would be typo CCP already had plenty of time to correct this as this number is known since the first previewof the new heavy suits. |
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:35:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please?
Can you use the search engine CCP provided you?
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:35:00 -
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I assume they're basing it off of the nerf they gave shields a while ago (which makes a LOT more sense now) The more shields you use the higher the shield depleted recharge delay, this mean once those shields are down via damage or flux that heavy is in deep ****.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:38:00 -
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bamboo x wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please? Can you use the search engine CCP provided you?
I did, but without thread title or anything sifting through 500+ queries is a bit complicated.
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Forum Warfare
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:41:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Capable of OHKO anything but Gal Sent.
It won't kill a plated Amarr Sentinel either, unless you're using a Breach FG.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:42:00 -
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I believe it was made 1s because of the fact that even a Basic Flux Grenade could wipe all of their shields.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:45:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:I assume they're basing it off of the nerf they gave shields a while ago (which makes a LOT more sense now) The more shields you use the higher the shield depleted recharge delay, this mean once those shields are down via damage or flux that heavy is in deep ****.
Yeah but I mean, what's that look like? 7% of 1 sec? 7% of 1.07? 7% of 1.14? 1.22 depleted with 3x shield ext and a complex energizer will mean 1.22 no shield, then regen at 48hp/sec (not sure what if any passive ability gained from energizers).
Gonna be fun as hell to play or frustrating as hell to kill lol.
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:46:00 -
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It's 1 second. Not a typo.
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Vrain Matari
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:47:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:According to your newly released table here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/heavysuits18.pngIt is listed as 1sec. I vaguely recall this error being noticed on the original spreadsheet you guys distributed a month or so ago, someone else spotted the error and a dev said it was 'possibly' an error. Well is it? I mean 1 sec...that's kind of.....ummm....OP? Anyways, some clarification here would be appreciated. (It will look much better than the mini for HMG tanking/rooftop camping FG if this is the case) It's not a typo, it's meant to be that way. I can't link the thread, but definitely remember reading it. Imagine a longer delay and now use flux grenades... It would render the suit as useless. This gives it a chances against flux, only a slight chance mind. Agreed - the one second recharge for depleted shields has been confirmed by CCP as not a typo.
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:47:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
Thank ya
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Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:47:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please? Can you use the search engine CCP provided you? I did, but without thread title/appx date or anything sifting through 500+ queries is a bit complicated.
I typed in "shield depleted recharge delay", and checked the blue tag box, guess what the first hit was?
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ResistanceGTA
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:48:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please?
Here you go..
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1747102#post1747102
Post #250 if it doesn't take you straight to it.
xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own...
So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:49:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
CCP totally needs to post in my thread about me slaughtering everyone
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Drapedup Drippedout
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Posted - 2014.03.13 13:49:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:bamboo x wrote:Guys this was confirmed a while ago as NOT a typo. This **** is going down.
They won't be that hard to kill if they don't have a shield recharge module up to proto, especially if they're close range and you immediately attack after fluxing them.
They will be beasts with FG though. Can you link me the thread please? Can you use the search engine CCP provided you? I did, but without thread title/appx date or anything sifting through 500+ queries is a bit complicated. I typed in "shield depleted recharge delay", and checked the blue tag box, guess what the first hit was?
This thread?
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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:25:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
Shitstorm inbound. Get to cover. #CaldariMasterRace
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:28:00 -
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One second? Really. Highest shields, highest shield regen, also shortest delay of all heavies? This is a repeat of another Caldari incident. I blame the Caldari for us no being able to have nice things.
Note: I'm still going Gallente. Long live the Federation! (And the G-I.)
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Hecarim Van Hohen
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:32:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:One second? Really. Highest shields, highest shield regen, also shortest delay of all heavies? This is a repeat of another Caldari incident. I blame the Caldari for us no being able to have nice things.
Note: I'm still going Gallente. Long live the Federation! (And the G-I.) TBH they are the shield race ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:36:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:TBH they are the shield race ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) I mentioned that a bit earlier, but it would be more understandable for three seconds. I don't think everyone understand how terrible one second actually is in the bigger picture, where everything does less damage (except for MDs, but let's not talk about those nor the LRs). Do you remember the Caldari Logistic incident? Where they had that really unneededly good shield recharge? This is a repeat of that mistake. I'm calling it now.
Though, I digress. I'll be using shield killing weapons mainly, so Caldari's heavy shouldn't be too bad for us Gallenteans to riddle full of holes.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:39:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:TBH they are the shield race ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) I mentioned that a bit earlier, but it would be more understandable for three seconds. I don't think everyone understand how terrible one second actually is in the bigger picture, where everything does less damage (except for MDs, but let's not talk about those nor the LRs). Do you remember the Caldari Logistic incident? Where they had that really unneededly good shield recharge? This is a repeat of that mistake. I'm calling it now. Though, I digress. I'll be using shield killing weapons mainly, so Caldari's heavy shouldn't be too bad for us Gallenteans to riddle full of holes.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:40:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo. Shitstorm inbound. Get to cover. #CaldariMasterRace
You can say this is OP until you realize Flux grenades exist, that there is no Rep tool for shields, Its regen amount will be decently slow, and that constant fire negates the whole timer.
This sums up 75% of the forum posts.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:43:00 -
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we shall see how that 1sec recharge plays out in a match, if its too much then CCP better prepare themselves for a lot of QQ threads from players QQ'ing about that 1 sec recharge rate haha
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D34NOS MAZDA
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:43:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
so you might as well let your shields deplete if you are low on shields so that you don't have to wait an additional three seconds because the non depleted delay is 4 seconds????
something still sounds odd. non depleted delay of 1 second seems reasonable |
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Kasote Denzara
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:50:00 -
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I didn't want to edit this into an older post. I want to bump this thread with one thing:
Caldari's heavy will have the shortest shield delay out of every suit in the game. That's right, scouts, logibros, everyone else. A heavy. Tell me again if that one second is still okay (some other time because I'm going to sleep).
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:50:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:so you might as well let your shields deplete if you are low on shields so that you don't have to wait an additional three seconds because the non depleted delay is 4 seconds????
something still sounds odd. non depleted delay of 1 second seems reasonable
Yes, it's totally bonkers.
But I don't think it'll be unbalanced. Basically, it's Flux Grenade protection and nothing else, because if you're a Caldari Sentinel and your shields are totally depleted in a firefight you're going to be dying pretty soon anyway.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:01:00 -
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:12:00 -
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Losing that 1 flux grenade because of locus grenades is going to make this just that much better.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:16:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:According to your newly released table here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/heavysuits18.pngIt is listed as 1sec. I vaguely recall this error being noticed on the original spreadsheet you guys distributed a month or so ago, someone else spotted the error and a dev said it was 'possibly' an error. Well is it? I mean 1 sec...that's kind of.....ummm....OP? Anyways, some clarification here would be appreciated. (It will look much better than the mini for HMG tanking/rooftop camping FG if this is the case) It's not a typo, it's meant to be that way. I can't link the thread, but definitely remember reading it. Imagine a longer delay and now use flux grenades... It would render the suit as useless. This gives it a chances against flux, only a slight chance mind. Just need to coordinate Flux+Locus from a squadmate.
They'll have just as bad of a chance against Flux if facing coordinated opponents.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:18:00 -
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How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion?
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:18:00 -
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So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:19:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I didn't want to edit this into an older post. I want to bump this thread with one thing:
Caldari's heavy will have the shortest shield delay out of every suit in the game. That's right, scouts, logibros, everyone else. A heavy. Tell me again if that one second is still okay (some other time because I'm going to sleep).
It's okay.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:20:00 -
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So flux grenades goes off wipes shields, 1 second passes shields begin recharging you get about 200 shields back and receive fire again now you have 4? second delay.
This is really only significant if you take them out of shields right as they get behind cover because otherwise you'll have no problem hitting them more after their shields drop and if that is the case they are dead. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:22:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies.
Yes, and that would be a terrible idea. How long does it take to switch to the flux? To cook it till it blows? To **** your own shields and then wait for all of them to regen? To switch back to your main weapon?
By the time you've done all that, your regular recharge delay would have passed, you'd still have a flux, and you'd still have some kind of shield buffer between you and dying.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:22:00 -
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And ARMORED Galenteans raging again. Unbelievable.
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Proto Annihilator
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:38:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies. Yes, and that would be a terrible idea. How long does it take to switch to the flux? To cook it till it blows? To **** your own shields and then wait for all of them to regen? To switch back to your main weapon? By the time you've done all that, your regular recharge delay would have passed, you'd still have a flux, and you'd still have some kind of shield buffer between you and dying.
I don't switch to flux. And I'll just toss it to where I plan on taking cover. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:41:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:One second? Really. Highest shields, highest shield regen, also shortest delay of all heavies? This is a repeat of another Caldari incident. I blame the Caldari for us no being able to have nice things.
Note: I'm still going Gallente. Long live the Federation! (And the G-I.) Until you can show me a shield rep hive, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders with 180hp, you can shut your filthy Federation mouth about my shield recharge delay.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:56:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion?
Yea, why would anyone ask a question they didn't know the answer to? Lol sorry I don't read the forums fr+¦nt to back everyday, its a question not a discussion, get over it
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:06:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:TBH they are the shield race ![Big smile](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png) I mentioned that a bit earlier, but it would be more understandable for three seconds. I don't think everyone understand how terrible one second actually is in the bigger picture, where everything does less damage (except for MDs, but let's not talk about those nor the LRs). Do you remember the Caldari Logistic incident? Where they had that really unneededly good shield recharge? This is a repeat of that mistake. I'm calling it now. Though, I digress. I'll be using shield killing weapons mainly, so Caldari's heavy shouldn't be too bad for us Gallenteans to riddle full of holes.
It's 1s depleted, 4s standard and the reason it is done so is so that flux grenades don't murder cal heavies. Remember that you don't recharge shields while you're taking damage and even with 2x cplx energizers it still takes ~ 9 seconds to get all your shields back after being fluxed.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:11:00 -
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well for it to stay at 1 sec they cant stack extenders
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:13:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion? Yea, why would anyone ask a question they didn't know the answer to? Lol sorry I don't read the forums fr+¦nt to back everyday, its a question not a discussion, get over it
You don't have to read them front to back every day. You should read the stickied thread at the to for the F&ID forum maybe once a month, and click on the blue dev bar to see dev posts. Use some sense.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:15:00 -
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Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:19:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer. HMG is indeed projectile
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:21:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer. HMG is indeed projectile
15% HMG dmg reduction to incoming armour damage when you are a maxed out Amarr Sentinel? That's going to be 3 complex damage mods worth in the next build.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:24:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:24:00 -
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well cal heavies shields cant be repaired by logis, armor heavies have and edge with a logi behind them, they cant get they main hp regenerated very fast, why should caldari not have the ability to this as well?, sure if we get a way to repair shields then ok nerf the shield recharge, but is good that it is 1 sec now
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:29:00 -
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Guys if they aren't skilled into proto shield rechargers they will suck. It's going to detract from using extenders slightly as well, so the smart ones won't have an insane amount of shield HP. The best caldari heavy will probably be a balance between extenders and rechargers.
So that "instant shield regen" you guys are thinking of isn't so instant if they can only regen a tiny bit of shields per second.
Edit: If I recall they only have one or maybe two low slots, which means they can't speed up their 1 second shield regulation very much. And in case you're ignorant, shield extenders have a penalty to recharge time when depleted.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:37:00 -
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dont forget that shields dont recharge while being damaged. add in that there is liek 600shield hp so it makes sense that the recharge delay would be so low
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:59:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo. holy OP heavies batman!
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:05:00 -
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oh man, let me find a proto caldari heavy to walk along side me in my scout ck.0.
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