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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:50:00 -
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I didn't want to edit this into an older post. I want to bump this thread with one thing:
Caldari's heavy will have the shortest shield delay out of every suit in the game. That's right, scouts, logibros, everyone else. A heavy. Tell me again if that one second is still okay (some other time because I'm going to sleep).
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Disturbingly Bored
Forum Warfare
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Posted - 2014.03.13 17:50:00 -
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D34NOS MAZDA wrote:so you might as well let your shields deplete if you are low on shields so that you don't have to wait an additional three seconds because the non depleted delay is 4 seconds????
something still sounds odd. non depleted delay of 1 second seems reasonable
Yes, it's totally bonkers.
But I don't think it'll be unbalanced. Basically, it's Flux Grenade protection and nothing else, because if you're a Caldari Sentinel and your shields are totally depleted in a firefight you're going to be dying pretty soon anyway.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
179
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:01:00 -
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The 1s delay isn't going to matter much when you get fluxed and two shotted by a masshole. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:12:00 -
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Losing that 1 flux grenade because of locus grenades is going to make this just that much better.
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:16:00 -
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Night 5talker 514 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:According to your newly released table here: http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65875/1/heavysuits18.pngIt is listed as 1sec. I vaguely recall this error being noticed on the original spreadsheet you guys distributed a month or so ago, someone else spotted the error and a dev said it was 'possibly' an error. Well is it? I mean 1 sec...that's kind of.....ummm....OP? Anyways, some clarification here would be appreciated. (It will look much better than the mini for HMG tanking/rooftop camping FG if this is the case) It's not a typo, it's meant to be that way. I can't link the thread, but definitely remember reading it. Imagine a longer delay and now use flux grenades... It would render the suit as useless. This gives it a chances against flux, only a slight chance mind.
Just need to coordinate Flux+Locus from a squadmate.
They'll have just as bad of a chance against Flux if facing coordinated opponents.
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
615
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:18:00 -
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How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion?
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:18:00 -
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So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
615
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:19:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:I didn't want to edit this into an older post. I want to bump this thread with one thing:
Caldari's heavy will have the shortest shield delay out of every suit in the game. That's right, scouts, logibros, everyone else. A heavy. Tell me again if that one second is still okay (some other time because I'm going to sleep).
It's okay.
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Villanor Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:20:00 -
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So flux grenades goes off wipes shields, 1 second passes shields begin recharging you get about 200 shields back and receive fire again now you have 4? second delay.
This is really only significant if you take them out of shields right as they get behind cover because otherwise you'll have no problem hitting them more after their shields drop and if that is the case they are dead. |
Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
615
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:22:00 -
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Proto Annihilator wrote:So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies.
Yes, and that would be a terrible idea. How long does it take to switch to the flux? To cook it till it blows? To **** your own shields and then wait for all of them to regen? To switch back to your main weapon?
By the time you've done all that, your regular recharge delay would have passed, you'd still have a flux, and you'd still have some kind of shield buffer between you and dying.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:22:00 -
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And ARMORED Galenteans raging again.
Unbelievable.
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Proto Annihilator
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
71
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:38:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:Proto Annihilator wrote:So theoretically I can flux my self in emergencies. Yes, and that would be a terrible idea. How long does it take to switch to the flux? To cook it till it blows? To **** your own shields and then wait for all of them to regen? To switch back to your main weapon? By the time you've done all that, your regular recharge delay would have passed, you'd still have a flux, and you'd still have some kind of shield buffer between you and dying.
I don't switch to flux. And I'll just toss it to where I plan on taking cover. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:41:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:One second? Really. Highest shields, highest shield regen, also shortest delay of all heavies? This is a repeat of another Caldari incident. I blame the Caldari for us no being able to have nice things.
Note: I'm still going Gallente. Long live the Federation! (And the G-I.)
Until you can show me a shield rep hive, a shield rep tool, and shield extenders with 180hp, you can shut your filthy Federation mouth about my shield recharge delay.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.03.13 18:56:00 -
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion?
Yea, why would anyone ask a question they didn't know the answer to? Lol sorry I don't read the forums fr+Śnt to back everyday, its a question not a discussion, get over it
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle
United Brotherhood Alliance
344
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:06:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:TBH they are the shield race  I mentioned that a bit earlier, but it would be more understandable for three seconds. I don't think everyone understand how terrible one second actually is in the bigger picture, where everything does less damage (except for MDs, but let's not talk about those nor the LRs). Do you remember the Caldari Logistic incident? Where they had that really unneededly good shield recharge? This is a repeat of that mistake. I'm calling it now. Though, I digress. I'll be using shield killing weapons mainly, so Caldari's heavy shouldn't be too bad for us Gallenteans to riddle full of holes.
It's 1s depleted, 4s standard and the reason it is done so is so that flux grenades don't murder cal heavies. Remember that you don't recharge shields while you're taking damage and even with 2x cplx energizers it still takes ~ 9 seconds to get all your shields back after being fluxed.
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:11:00 -
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well for it to stay at 1 sec they cant stack extenders
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Kigurosaka Laaksonen
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:13:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Kigurosaka Laaksonen wrote:How did anyone think the 1s depleted shield recharge delay was incorrect after almost 3 months of discussion? Yea, why would anyone ask a question they didn't know the answer to? Lol sorry I don't read the forums fr+Śnt to back everyday, its a question not a discussion, get over it
You don't have to read them front to back every day. You should read the stickied thread at the to for the F&ID forum maybe once a month, and click on the blue dev bar to see dev posts. Use some sense.
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:15:00 -
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Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer.
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Vitharr Foebane
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:19:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer.
HMG is indeed projectile
Thanks CCP for making the HMG Heavy viable again :3
That's no excuse to slack off on releasing a heavy laser though =.=
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:21:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:Guys if you look at the new heavies, they all seem to me at least to have roles that they will favour.
Its abundantly clear, the Caldari Heavy will be master of the forge gun, I also predict it will be very nifty with a rail rifle sitting behind cover at range. However up close VS Amarr and Gallente heavies, it just wont have the staying power the armour users have.
The Minmatar heavy is a wild card in my eyes.
One thing I have noticed - The Amarr Sentinel gets a bonus to reduction of projectile rounds... does that include the HMG???
If it does, I see the Amarr keeping tag of king up close HMGer. HMG is indeed projectile
15% HMG dmg reduction to incoming armour damage when you are a maxed out Amarr Sentinel? That's going to be 3 complex damage mods worth in the next build.
Yes The Amarr Sentinel will no doubt be the king of HMG fights :) that's cool.
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:24:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
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Phazoid
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.13 19:24:00 -
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well cal heavies shields cant be repaired by logis, armor heavies have and edge with a logi behind them, they cant get they main hp regenerated very fast, why should caldari not have the ability to this as well?, sure if we get a way to repair shields then ok nerf the shield recharge, but is good that it is 1 sec now
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:29:00 -
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Guys if they aren't skilled into proto shield rechargers they will suck. It's going to detract from using extenders slightly as well, so the smart ones won't have an insane amount of shield HP. The best caldari heavy will probably be a balance between extenders and rechargers.
So that "instant shield regen" you guys are thinking of isn't so instant if they can only regen a tiny bit of shields per second.
Edit: If I recall they only have one or maybe two low slots, which means they can't speed up their 1 second shield regulation very much. And in case you're ignorant, shield extenders have a penalty to recharge time when depleted.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:37:00 -
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dont forget that shields dont recharge while being damaged. add in that there is liek 600shield hp so it makes sense that the recharge delay would be so low
Rolling with the punches
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:59:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:It's 1 second. Not a typo.
holy OP heavies batman!
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
TCD ToXiCaTeD
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:05:00 -
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oh man, let me find a proto caldari heavy to walk along side me in my scout ck.0.
it is not going to be pretty. 
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