Still waiting to hear why it had to be posted in GD and not in the respec thread where it belongs. Seriously why did you need to make a new topic about it? Think people actually didn't read CCP logibros post or all the rest of the posts saying the same thing yours dose?

The only people who you got to read your topic is people wanting comfort for haunting thoughts of possibly no respec, and trolls who feed on the tears.

Still waiting to hear why it had to be posted in GD and not in the respec thread where it belongs. Seriously why did you need to make a new topic about it? Think people actualy didnt read CCP logibros post or all the rest of the posts saying the same thing yours dose?

The only people who you got to read your topic is people wanting comfort for haunting thoughts of posibly no respec, and trolls who feed on the tears.

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Im not offended, buuut those other topics where made by trolls, and making counter topics feeds them

ignore them like I do

I don't like to ignore faulty information being handed out to the community.

Well i guess you could discredit them in their own thread, or just be a pompus *** like me and tell them to voice their opinions in the respec thread and shut up.

The problem with that is multiple people are creating this threads which means there are likely more people out there who will continue to make them. If I say something in their threads, that's not going to reach the people who are thinking about making the same thread. At least this way some of them may see this thread and stop before creating another thread on how the SP event means no respec.

I'm calling a full.

If they don't respec the entire package;

• Dropsuit Command
• Dropsuit Upgrades
• Weaponry

Then there would be no point of a respec in the first place. If I spec out of logistics, what use would I have for Repair Tool Operation V?

Agree here, im for FULL/WHOLE RESPEC too.

Right thing to do is very subjective in this regard....make no mistake you know I want to skill out of my 4 -5 mill in dropsuit command...... but will it actually happen?

They never respeced EVE, and only ever refunded when skills were removed or had their descriptions entirely altered.

This isn't EVE and the skill points don't exactly work the same, not to mention this is not EVE, it is a FPS and the skill points aren't acquired or used in the same manner, did I mention this isn't EVE or that the skill point and/or "skill tree" is completely different?


























Still not EVE....

So what are you trying to say
This is not EVE?

So can you all please stop making such ridiculous claims?

In a round about way, maybe..

Doesn't matter. People are really worried about a refund so they will continue to be afraid. The unknown of "yes or no CCP?!" is so much more terrifying than "here is the bad news." If there is no respec/refund, all the people that stated "Mauler, Million Clone Challenge, and Triple SP = no refund" will feel vindicated and when refund talks happen again later when there is some massive change, any SP event will mean no refund.

Gotta wait and see. I hope there is because I don't want my AR skills but it was either that or wait 8 months for a different Rifle; sort of the same positions current Heavy players find themselves in. "Amarr or bust."

Should be a thriller, you might want to get some popcorn.

Its clearly a thread stating OPINIONS on why respecs will still happen, Which still falls under "respec discution"

Also Quoting CCP logibro saying the event is unrelated is like quoting him saying that we wont get respecs dosent mean we wont get respecs. What did you expect him to say? really? think he was really going to say "yeah you got us, this event pretty much means no respecs"? If so your more dilusional than I thought.

No one forced you to skill into anything. Not having the option for a particular suit does not prevent you form skilling into that suit once it is available. All roles were available, scout, assault and heavy. The racial drop suit was not available. The same way all racial weapons were not available.

You guys seem to think that the occurrence of a bonus skill point event is some sort of way to soften the blow of no respec in Uprising 1.8. That is a foolish assumption for multiple reasons. For one, all it would do is give the players who are lucky enough to have their preferred specialization already available to them at the start of Uprising an even bigger advantage over those who were not. For two, bonus SP events are not uncommon; consider the following,

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April 24th - May 2nd 2013: Mercenary Holocon Event
During this week all skill points earned were tripled and the weekly cap was tripled. Note that this event ended less than one week before the launch of Uprising which came with a respec.

July 4th - July 10th 2013: Triple Skill Point Event
During this week all skill points earned were tripled and the weekly cap was tripled.

August 7th - August 14th 2013: Double Skill Point Event
During this week all skill points earned from war points were doubled and the weekly cap was doubled.

September 4th - September 9th 2013: Caldari Boot Camp
This was when CCP had no clue wtf they were doing with SP events and made the rules super confusing, but essentially it was a double SP event.

October 1st - October 31st 2013: October is for Winners
Skill points earned from war points in the first three victories of each day in October were doubled.

November 6th - November 13th 2013: Accelerated SP Week
Skill points earned from war points were tripled and the weekly skill cap was tripled.

December 16th - December 20th 2013: Dev Invasion
Battles with the developers opened up in "Other Contracts" and participants received double skill points.

January 22nd - January 29th 2014: Accelerated SP Event
Skill points earned from war points were given a x5 multiplier and the weekly skill cap was tripled.

February 19th - March 5th 2014: Operation Mauler
Every kill with a heavy weapon rewarded you 500 bonus SP and every time you kill a heavy you were rewarded 250 SP, with a cap of 750,000 SP.

March 14th - March 17th: The Million Clone Challenge
Up to 1,000,000 bonus SP if the community can get 1,000,000 combined kills

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And for three, there is this quote from CCP Logibro,


So can you all please stop making such ridiculous claims?

This is the largest SP event with a possibility of gaining 2,000,000 bonus SP. You can't compare it to the other events. No respecs. Let the tears flow!

So what do you have to say to the non-casual, Faction Loyalists?

You know, the ones that New Eden itself revolves around?

This isn't EVE and the skill points don't exactly work the same, not to mention this is not EVE, it is a FPS and the skill points aren't acquired or used in the same manner, did I mention this isn't EVE or that the skill point and/or "skill tree" is completely different?


























Still not EVE....

I'm not arguing against a respec I'd love one. I am merely stating the stance they have taken on our parent game.

Keep in mind however, that there has never been a single ship in EVE Online that was released without all four of the faction's versions.

There's almost definitely going to be a refund for the physical changes they're making, whereas the balancing and addition changes probably won't get a refund.

Sentinel, Commando, Scout dropsuit skills - Almost guaranteed
Entire dropsuit command - likely
Entire dropsuit upgrades tree - maybe
Anything out of weaponry - very unlikely.
Entire respec - No, just no.

The thing is, weapon balances and dropsuit balances in the past haven't given us skill points back. It's only when they've added a substatial amount to the game (i.e. Uprising) or when they completely change and rebalance the physical properties of an item (i.e. the tank update)

but the problem is, they haven't really changed anything with the weapons. Yeah they swung a giant nerf bat at them but that's no reason for them to give us points back. The only time I would want CCP to give me a refund in weaponry is if they changed the Scrambler to an automatic weapon, or if they made the HMG increase in spread as you fire it.

Changing physical properties is what demands a refund, not just nerfing, balancing, or new stuff.

Unlikely a full respec true enough but perhaps a dropsuit and core skills refund. As you say they have changed the physical properties of dropsuit content.

The problem with only refunding Dropsuit Command and Upgrade is that you allow literally every type of suit the option to switch into any other type of suit, except heavies. Anyone could go heavy and keep their light weapon and still be useful, with either Commandos or Sentinels.

The same can not be said of heavies. While everyone else is given the freedom to do what they want, heavies are forced to stay as heavies or sit on heavy weapon SP that they can no longer use, even if they were to switch to the other heavy frame (commandos)

There are other reasons to refund Weaponry, but this is the big one.