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Aero Yassavi
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Posted - 2014.03.10 22:00:00 -
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You guys seem to think that the occurrence of a bonus skill point event is some sort of way to soften the blow of no respec in Uprising 1.8. That is a foolish assumption for multiple reasons. For one, all it would do is give the players who are lucky enough to have their preferred specialization already available to them at the start of Uprising an even bigger advantage over those who were not. For two, bonus SP events are not uncommon; consider the following,
April 24th - May 2nd 2013: Mercenary Holocon Event
During this week all skill points earned were tripled and the weekly cap was tripled. Note that this event ended less than one week before the launch of Uprising which came with a respec.
July 4th - July 10th 2013: Triple Skill Point Event
During this week all skill points earned were tripled and the weekly cap was tripled.
August 7th - August 14th 2013: Double Skill Point Event
During this week all skill points earned from war points were doubled and the weekly cap was doubled.
September 4th - September 9th 2013: Caldari Boot Camp
This was when CCP had no clue wtf they were doing with SP events and made the rules super confusing, but essentially it was a double SP event.
October 1st - October 31st 2013: October is for Winners
Skill points earned from war points in the first three victories of each day in October were doubled.
November 6th - November 13th 2013: Accelerated SP Week
Skill points earned from war points were tripled and the weekly skill cap was tripled.
December 16th - December 20th 2013: Dev Invasion
Battles with the developers opened up in "Other Contracts" and participants received double skill points.
January 22nd - January 29th 2014: Accelerated SP Event
Skill points earned from war points were given a x5 multiplier and the weekly skill cap was tripled.
February 19th - March 5th 2014: Operation Mauler
Every kill with a heavy weapon rewarded you 500 bonus SP and every time you kill a heavy you were rewarded 250 SP, with a cap of 750,000 SP.
March 14th - March 17th: The Million Clone Challenge
Up to 1,000,000 bonus SP if the community can get 1,000,000 combined kills
And for three, there is this quote from CCP Logibro,
CCP Logibro wrote:
And before anyone panics, don't take this as an indication as to whether or not we're providing a respec with Uprising 1.8.
So can you all please stop making such ridiculous claims?
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Posted - 2014.03.10 22:07:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I'm calling a Dropsuit and Weapon refund.
Dropsuit Command without Dropsuit Upgrades makes zero sense. What if you wanted to be a Caldari heavy, but the only heavy available was the Amarr heavy so you specialized into that with armor plating. Now Caldari heavy comes out, those armor plates aren't really going to help you much are they? And that is just one example. What you do with Dropsuit Upgrades is directly dependent on what you do with Dropsuit Command. If you refund one you must refund the other.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 22:10:00 -
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Even if you are saving up skill points, it doesn't change the fact that a skill refund is needed and is the right thing to do.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:10:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:snipped to save space
This post is a perfect example of why we do not need a respec or refund. Good job. +1  Perfect examples of opportunities to gain additonal skill points. And I am sure there will be more to come.
Not really. The whole point of a respec is that people have skills invested into stuff that they were essentially forced into if they wanted to play a role and had no other choices. The amount of bonus skill point events does not change this. As with my first point, all this does is allow the people who were lucky enough to have their preferred role available from the start of Uprising and even larger advantage over all the people who were not.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:14:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Disturbingly Bored wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I'm calling a Dropsuit and Weapon refund. They essentially did that for tanks, after all. Even if they don't, I'm going to have some 5-6 million unspent SP after this event, so wtf eva  I have about 6mil currently without the mauler event rewards. It's looking like I'll be able to get everything I want regardless of whether or not their is any sort of respec or refund. People know it was up in the air so I have little sympathy for the people that haven't been saving up that could complain if there is indeed no respec coming. Heck, my preferred role (The Amarr Commando) has been released since near the start of Uprising and I have it exactly where I want it, I'm still advocating for a respec because I absolutely understand why other people are requesting them. On matters like this you have to be able to look beyond your own personal interest.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:16:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Didn't they make a forum topic where you guys could cling to your respec hallucinations...
Requesting Dev lock plz
This thread is not on the topic of respecs but rather in response to the people saying that the new event for March is somehow a confirmation that there will be no respec. This is an attempt to prevent such threads from being created in the future and as such I see no reason in it being locked.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Didn't they make a forum topic where you guys could cling to your respec hallucinations...
Requesting Dev lock plz This thread is not on the topic of respecs but rather in response to the people saying that the new event for March is somehow a confirmation that there will be no respec. This is an attempt to prevent such threads from being created in the future and as such I see no reason in it being locked. Its clearly a thread stating OPINIONS on why respecs will still happen, Which still falls under "respec discution" Also Quoting CCP logibro saying the event is unrelated is like quoting him saying that we wont get respecs dosent mean we wont get respecs. What did you expect him to say? really? think he was really going to say "yeah you got us, this event pretty much means no respecs"? If so your more dilusional than I thought. Considering how CCP Logibro was quoted, it's stating FACTS. This thread is not about why respecs will still happen, but about how the SP event does not mean no-respec.
In the middle of the thread I may have stated my personal opinions in response to other responses, but the original message in the original thread is not one of opinions but, as Atiim said, facts.
The purpose of the thread is to convey the message that the one million skill point event does not guarantee that there is no respec, and if you believe it does then you are delusional. Nothing is guaranteed until CCP flat out say it.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:36:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:echo47 wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:snipped to save space
This post is a perfect example of why we do not need a respec or refund. Good job. +1 Perfect examples of opportunities to gain additonal skill points. And I am sure there will be more to come. Not really. The whole point of a respec is that people have skills invested into stuff that they were essentially forced into if they wanted to play a role and had no other choices. The amount of bonus skill point events does not change this. As with my first point, all this does is allow the people who were lucky enough to have their preferred role available from the start of Uprising and even larger advantage over all the people who were not. No one forced you to skill into anything. Not having the option for a particular suit does not prevent you form skilling into that suit once it is available. All roles were available, scout, assault and heavy. The racial drop suit was not available. The same way all racial weapons were not available. So let's say you want to be a Caldari Sentinel, are you just supposed to sit on all your SP and use starter fits and militia fits until the Caldari Sentinel is released? That's ridiculous. For all practical purposes it is forcing you to skill into the Amarr Sentinel if you want to be a sentinel of any kind, or Gallente/Minmatar scout if you want to be a scout of any kind. That is wasted SP when the one you originally wanted becomes available.
Anyways as stated I'm not really here to state my opinions for why a respec should happen, I only made this thread to state how respecs are not yet ruled out.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:41:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Atiim wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:Didn't they make a forum topic where you guys could cling to your respec hallucinations...
Requesting Dev lock plz This thread is not on the topic of respecs but rather in response to the people saying that the new event for March is somehow a confirmation that there will be no respec. This is an attempt to prevent such threads from being created in the future and as such I see no reason in it being locked. Its clearly a thread stating OPINIONS on why respecs will still happen, Which still falls under "respec discution" Also Quoting CCP logibro saying the event is unrelated is like quoting him saying that we wont get respecs dosent mean we wont get respecs. What did you expect him to say? really? think he was really going to say "yeah you got us, this event pretty much means no respecs"? If so your more dilusional than I thought. Considering how CCP Logibro was quoted, it's stating FACTS. This thread is not about why respecs will still happen, but about how the SP event does not mean no-respec. Still waiting to hear why it had to be posted in GD and not in the respec thread where it belongs. Seriously why did you need to make a new topic about it? Think people actualy didnt read CCP logibros post or all the rest of the posts saying the same thing yours dose? The only people who you got to read your topic is people wanting comfort for haunting thoughts of posibly no respec, and trolls who feed on the tears. It got you to enter 
And besides the fact that this thread is not on the topic of whether or not we should get a respec but rather why the SP event does not mean there won't be a respec . . .
The reason this thread was posted in GD is because there have been multiple threads created about how the one million SP event somehow means no respecs. Those threads are cluttering the front page far more than this one is. You seriously think the people who create those threads are going to go into the official respec thread and read every post before deciding to post their ridiculous statements? And if I just say the same thing in all their threads it may alert them but not all the others out there thinking about making a thread on the same exact ridiculous topic.
I'm sorry if by creating this thread I offended you.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 02:53:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote: Im not offended, buuut those other topics where made by trolls, and making counter topics feeds them ignore them like I do
I don't like to ignore faulty information being handed out to the community.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 03:12:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Beck Weathers wrote: Im not offended, buuut those other topics where made by trolls, and making counter topics feeds them ignore them like I do I don't like to ignore faulty information being handed out to the community. Well i guess you could discredit them in their own thread, or just be a pompus *** like me and tell them to voice their opinions in the respec thread and shut up.
The problem with that is multiple people are creating this threads which means there are likely more people out there who will continue to make them. If I say something in their threads, that's not going to reach the people who are thinking about making the same thread. At least this way some of them may see this thread and stop before creating another thread on how the SP event means no respec.
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