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Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2957	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:20:00 - [1] - Quote With PFC running along fairly well at this point I think it is time to discuss another community project, Thunderdome . Many of us greatly miss the days of Corp battles and pine for their return. I do not think these will be returning anytime soon from CCP, but I do think we have a chance of creating them ourselves. Next door to PFC is the system of Bosena and the perfect opportunity to bring back old school corp battles. As it stands, 11 of the 14 alliances in Planetary Conquest have a district on PFC and 23 of the 45 corps are represented on the planet as well. With each corp not on PFC getting a district on Bosena 80% of the corps in planetary conquest would be represented in the constellation and every major alliance in the game. With a mutual agreement to not flip these districts and/or returning the district to its former owner in the case of a flip the FIttaken constellation will give us something we have all been wanting: corp battles. This could open up numerous opportunities including corps betting against each other for matches, tournaments, etc. I am currently in negotiations with Nyain San and feel that this could be accomplished by the end of the week. Bosena would be expected to follow the PFC rules when it came to having matches with PFC opponents unless agreed to otherwise, but when it comes to Bosena (which would become the Thunderdome) the only rules would be no flipping and have fun. I would think that all the big name alliances, yes RA that includes you, that don't have a district on PFC could get placed first as they can give access to entire alliance to corp battles via the Thunderdome district. Then it could move to a first come, first served basis. The districts could be purchased from Nyain San through transactions secured by Spero Escrow Services at no charge. We have the chance to bring back corp battles. Let's seize this opportunity. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
843-BANE BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 966	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:31:00 - [2] - Quote Sounds good, so essentially we would simply be expanding PFC? I mean PFC CAN be used for all of this anyway, so the aim is to enable more corporations the opportunity to participate? Director // Major // BurgezzE.T.F 18-1 -é-+-ànderdo-+e record \|\| +¦ a-+ -é-+e op+¦a-ée
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2958	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:35:00 - [3] - Quote 843-BANE wrote: Sounds good, so essentially we would simply be expanding PFC? I mean PFC CAN be used for all of this anyway, so the aim is to enable more corporations the opportunity to participate? That and the corporations on Bosnea wouldn't be bound by the council or have any kind of enforcement entity. It will essentially be like the very first iteration of PFC, which was made up of all the top tier corps. This is also to give a place for people to have access to low stakes fights (no district flipping) even if they have land in other parts of Molden Heath. Basically when it comes to Thunderdome leave your politics at the door and lets have some fights like the corp battle days. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2453	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:58:00 - [4] - Quote Thunderdome... Deranged is coming back? You had my hopes up... PFC is being expanded... meh nice not great but nice it's not Thunderdome... Thunderdome's close to home, but Barbar get Deranged on the line and I'd enjoy one with TRE... Listen 10M ISK and you shall not be annoyed otherwise just ignore me.
john smitharooni Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 35	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:12:00 - [5] - Quote And the wildlfire of Communist Socialism continues its spread throughout Molden Heath. I'm beginning to see why EVE vets hate carebears so much. Burn PFC and snuff out its offshoot sprouts before its too late!!!
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1703	Posted - 2014.03.10 17:22:00 - [6] - Quote So, what's in it for you, Spero? I ain't got time for dat sht!*
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 222	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:01:00 - [7] - Quote Kain Spero wrote: 843-BANE wrote: Sounds good, so essentially we would simply be expanding PFC? I mean PFC CAN be used for all of this anyway, so the aim is to enable more corporations the opportunity to participate? That and the corporations on Bosnea wouldn't be bound by the council or have any kind of enforcement entity. It will essentially be like the very first iteration of PFC, which was made up of all the top tier corps. This is also to give a place for people to have access to low stakes fights (no district flipping) even if they have land in other parts of Molden Heath. Basically when it comes to Thunderdome leave your politics at the door and lets have some fights like the corp battle days. I believe this is something I could get behind. Thanks for including us Also, would this exclusively be ground battles by "rule"? Or would that be up to the individual corps to iron out? *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2962	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:26:00 - [8] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: Also, would this exclusively be ground battles by "rule"? Or would that be up to the individual corps to iron out? What do you mean by ground battles? Also, it only makes sense that RA would be on the planet. 8213 wrote: So, what's in it for you, Spero? I like fostering competition. The more people that stay in PC the more people that are likely to hire mercs. Also, I would like to run another tournament at some point and I think this is the best shot of having a joint Eve-Dust tournament in PC right now. I'll be honest, most of my directors think I am crazy and this won't work, but some of the best ideas are the crazy ones. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
NF Travel Agent Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:31:00 - [9] - Quote Plus 1 New Eden needs some structure and designating certain parts of space is a great idea. IE PFC for training this new sector for grudge and /or lower stake matches. Each system can be shaped into something other then anarchy with some rules , repercussions , and rewards. Contact in game to buy a district or register .
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2962	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:35:00 - [10] - Quote The simpler the rules for Bosena the better. I really see the only real difference is that it would be lower stakes since the districts aren't on the line. Everything else goes. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news

NF Travel Agent Escrow Removal and Acquisition Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:39:00 - [11] - Quote Yes good point it would be much easier then PFC since vet's will be inhabiting it . Contact in game to buy a district or register .
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:08:00 - [12] - Quote Ground battles meaning no EVE side support for either team. A strictly Dust match. I am not lobbying one way or the other, just wondering what the vision is. I could see valid Arguments for both sides. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2963	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:13:00 - [13] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: Ground battles meaning no EVE side support for either team. A strictly Dust match. I am not lobbying one way or the other, just wondering what the vision is. I could see valid Arguments for both sides. Interestingly enough this is actually something being discussed by the PFC council in regards with Oddelulf. My personal opinion is the closer to a live PC match the better and that would mean Eve support included. I could see two corps making an agreement to make it ground only for a specific fight. Again, with Bosensa I think the less rules the better. A more controlled environment is what Oddelulf is for. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2830	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:14:00 - [14] - Quote Holy sht yes!. I read the first paragraph, I'm in. I'll now read the rest. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2830	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:18:00 - [15] - Quote I need a bit on this badly. Corp battles were Defo the closest dust came to being competitive. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2831	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:24:00 - [16] - Quote If this hits off I'll quit my corp to join one that's active in this. I sent a mail today stating that iv had enough being the leader, I simply want to just play the game and I think swamp is finally dead anyway. People have kind of splintered, the game is just sh!t and creating a corp from scratch without recycled vets hits a peak. Im doing it for the third time, the player base just isn't there unless you have no standards and accept anyone which is a quicker way to fail. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Spartacus Dust The-Legionnaires The CORVOS 184	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:32:00 - [17] - Quote I'd rather have CORP Battles come back. The Thunder Dome Idea still has the concept of buying clone packs, and defender having more clone advantage. CPM0 Should push to have it back and if it's not back, CPM1 should push for it. Twitter @Matthew_Dust Candidate for the CPM1 One Universe//One War
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1666	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:32:00 - [18] - Quote So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well: 1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere. 2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice. My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2833	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:36:00 - [19] - Quote A rant in a thread I had earlier that might interest you kain. Give us a respec in 1.8, a lot of people don't enjoy the game enough anymore to grind for the new stuff and all our suits are changing etc. Not giving us a respec will not bring back the epic, adventurous feel from beta, the maps don't even look semi natural anymore, all the maps feel like arenas than maps. That epicness is gone. Theres nothing great about unlocking anything anymore because the differences are marginal. Its all just meh. Out of every 30 recruits I get, I or rather YOU ccp are lucky to still have one playing this game after a week and I have been trying to build a corp with the same people for months. Most new players think your game is sht and a waste of time, I'm sorry. Another thing is that new players used to buy into the potential, now they don't. I have not recruited any recycled vets so I can assure you that these trends are most definite, other corps trying to build notice the same trends. I am really hoping 1.8 injects some mmo into dust. I have been trying to make this corp work and I'm now on the third time with the same people and have been doing this for at least 6 months now. Total recruits that stuck at dust in that time? About 10 out of hundreds. The other trend is that due to the npe, new players do not understand tax rate or pc even after being enlightened, so generally I assume your game attracts idiot's ( based off of definite trends I have observed) and to make it worse, idiots without a shred of dust knowledge. So the other trend is for these new players to join an established corp and then quit a week or two later. As my corp mate x7 lion stated, the game modes and depth sees dust become as bland and boring as any other shooter. Dust talks the talk like a regular Joe Larry but can walk for sht, dust has no legs in that department. Also we need more game and less meta. I'm pretty sure that any game that has a forum which is just as fun as the game it serves a purpose for is not a good thing, stop promoting meta to cover the inadequacies in the game, its obvious. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1666	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:40:00 - [20] - Quote Man, Kane Spero cannot grant to respecs, he is not CCP. Also, this has nothing to do with the thread, reported for spam. Also, if you do not want meta, this is not the game for you. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate

TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2833	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:41:00 - [21] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Man, Kane Spero cannot grant to respecs, he is not CCP. Also, this has nothing to do with the thread, reported for spam. I know this, I was just saying. You are pathetic soraya and I'm glad I have not had to deal with an imbecile of your calibre. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:43:00 - [22] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well: 1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere. 2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice. My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2833	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:43:00 - [23] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Man, Kane Spero cannot grant to respecs, he is not CCP. Also, this has nothing to do with the thread, reported for spam. Also, if you do not want meta, this is not the game for you. Replying to your edit. Ha, I only want what ccp promoted. Again, you are an imbecile. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1667	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:50:00 - [24] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Man, Kane Spero cannot grant to respecs, he is not CCP. Also, this has nothing to do with the thread, reported for spam. Also, if you do not want meta, this is not the game for you. Replying to your edit. Ha, I only want what ccp promoted. Again, you are an imbecile. I am sitting back here laughing at you thinking you even know what you're talking about, and you try and call me an imbecile? Twice? I don't even... I mean, like, I seriously don't even have a word for that. The CPM (all of them) are pushing for respecs. Spero included. They have been since 1.8 suit bonuses were first leaked. Probably before that. Why are you spamming a thread that has to do with in-game stuff with more meaningless crying about respecs? Did enough of your spammy GD threads get locked, that you decided to come here? I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2833	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:55:00 - [25] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Man, Kane Spero cannot grant to respecs, he is not CCP. Also, this has nothing to do with the thread, reported for spam. Also, if you do not want meta, this is not the game for you. Replying to your edit. Ha, I only want what ccp promoted. Again, you are an imbecile. I am sitting back here laughing at you thinking you even know what you're talking about, and you try and call me an imbecile? Twice? I don't even... I mean, like, I seriously don't even have a word for that. The CPM (all of them) are pushing for respecs. Spero included. They have been since 1.8 suit bonuses were first leaked. Probably before that. Why are you spamming a thread that has to do with in-game stuff with more meaningless crying about respecs? Did enough of your spammy GD threads get locked, that you decided to come here? No. But kain is on the CPM so showing him that thread is useful. Theres constructive critism in there and I'm not in game to direct mail him. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2969	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:55:00 - [26] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well: 1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere. 2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice. My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back. Which is pretty close to how the old PFC worked. Also, if you flip and don't give the district back you would also risk loosing any Bosena and PFC districts your alliance has potentially. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Dr PepperPoP Bragian Order Amarr Empire 284	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:57:00 - [27] - Quote Titus Stryker wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well: 1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere. 2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice. My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back. Lmao My guess is that if there's no enforcement then there's no problem. It's like a mini-PC model that players control, by the sounds of it.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2971	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:27:00 - [28] - Quote Negotiations are going well. I would suggest that corps and alliances begin replying here if they wish to have a district on Bosena for the purposes of old style corp battles. Owner of Spero Escrow Services Follow @KainSpero for Dust and CPM news
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3060	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:42:00 - [29] - Quote We would like one for sure ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott Level 3 Forum Warrior
Titus Stryker Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 226	Posted - 2014.03.10 20:49:00 - [30] - Quote Dr PepperPoP wrote: Titus Stryker wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well: 1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere. 2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice. My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back. Lmao My guess is that if there's no enforcement then there's no problem. It's like a mini-PC model that players control, by the sounds of it. This is not my interpretation. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari



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