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Kain Spero
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:20:00 -
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With PFC running along fairly well at this point I think it is time to discuss another community project, Thunderdome . Many of us greatly miss the days of Corp battles and pine for their return. I do not think these will be returning anytime soon from CCP, but I do think we have a chance of creating them ourselves.
Next door to PFC is the system of Bosena and the perfect opportunity to bring back old school corp battles.
As it stands, 11 of the 14 alliances in Planetary Conquest have a district on PFC and 23 of the 45 corps are represented on the planet as well. With each corp not on PFC getting a district on Bosena 80% of the corps in planetary conquest would be represented in the constellation and every major alliance in the game. With a mutual agreement to not flip these districts and/or returning the district to its former owner in the case of a flip the FIttaken constellation will give us something we have all been wanting: corp battles.
This could open up numerous opportunities including corps betting against each other for matches, tournaments, etc. I am currently in negotiations with Nyain San and feel that this could be accomplished by the end of the week. Bosena would be expected to follow the PFC rules when it came to having matches with PFC opponents unless agreed to otherwise, but when it comes to Bosena (which would become the Thunderdome) the only rules would be no flipping and have fun.
I would think that all the big name alliances, yes RA that includes you, that don't have a district on PFC could get placed first as they can give access to entire alliance to corp battles via the Thunderdome district. Then it could move to a first come, first served basis. The districts could be purchased from Nyain San through transactions secured by Spero Escrow Services at no charge.
We have the chance to bring back corp battles. Let's seize this opportunity.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 16:35:00 -
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843-BANE wrote:Sounds good, so essentially we would simply be expanding PFC? I mean PFC CAN be used for all of this anyway, so the aim is to enable more corporations the opportunity to participate?
That and the corporations on Bosnea wouldn't be bound by the council or have any kind of enforcement entity. It will essentially be like the very first iteration of PFC, which was made up of all the top tier corps. This is also to give a place for people to have access to low stakes fights (no district flipping) even if they have land in other parts of Molden Heath.
Basically when it comes to Thunderdome leave your politics at the door and lets have some fights like the corp battle days.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 18:26:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote: Also, would this exclusively be ground battles by "rule"? Or would that be up to the individual corps to iron out?
What do you mean by ground battles? Also, it only makes sense that RA would be on the planet.
8213 wrote:So, what's in it for you, Spero?
I like fostering competition. The more people that stay in PC the more people that are likely to hire mercs. Also, I would like to run another tournament at some point and I think this is the best shot of having a joint Eve-Dust tournament in PC right now.
I'll be honest, most of my directors think I am crazy and this won't work, but some of the best ideas are the crazy ones.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 18:35:00 -
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The simpler the rules for Bosena the better. I really see the only real difference is that it would be lower stakes since the districts aren't on the line. Everything else goes.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 19:13:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:Ground battles meaning no EVE side support for either team. A strictly Dust match.
I am not lobbying one way or the other, just wondering what the vision is. I could see valid Arguments for both sides.
Interestingly enough this is actually something being discussed by the PFC council in regards with Oddelulf. My personal opinion is the closer to a live PC match the better and that would mean Eve support included. I could see two corps making an agreement to make it ground only for a specific fight.
Again, with Bosensa I think the less rules the better. A more controlled environment is what Oddelulf is for.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 19:55:00 -
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Titus Stryker wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:So Oddelulf planets get protection, Bosena planets don't, and then the wider PC is the free-for-all everyone knows and expects. There's two secondary benefits for PFC as well:
1. It provides a possible graduation path for Oddelulf -> Bosena -> Elsewhere.
2. Folks on Oddelulf can fight tougher opponents on Bosena for practice.
My only question: If there's no district flipping, but no enforcement entity, what happens to a district flipper on Bosena? My guess is that they are shunned on the forums and other corps will beat them up and give the flipped district back.
Which is pretty close to how the old PFC worked. Also, if you flip and don't give the district back you would also risk loosing any Bosena and PFC districts your alliance has potentially.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 20:27:00 -
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Negotiations are going well. I would suggest that corps and alliances begin replying here if they wish to have a district on Bosena for the purposes of old style corp battles.
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Posted - 2014.03.10 21:04:00 -
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BLUNT SMKR wrote:I like the idea n i'm pretty sure RND would want a district
I got a question though
say u want to set up special corp matchs like infantry only, 4v4, n so on
n both corps agree to terms but then the other corp breaks the terms
would there be ways to enforce that or is it just anything goes?
Honestly, for something like that I think your recourse we be come to the forums and call them an ***.
What you could do it put a bet on the match or a buy in and have a third party hold the ISK. If one side breaks the rules then they forfeit the bet or buy-in.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 18:28:00 -
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Spartacus Dust wrote:or the CPM0 could simply insist that corp battles come back since a lot of the community does want it back.
It is relatively cheaper and you can train a lot more doing corp battles.
The community has stated loud and clear the desire for old corp battles and I know that I favor the return of that type of gameplay, but that doesn't mean it will happen or happen any time soon. Right now though we have an opportunity to create the environment ourselves.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 18:54:00 -
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Oddeluf is for less established corps and the PFC Fund is a reserve in case someone gets a wild hair to burn PFC. The fund is already established and paid for. The PFC council agreed to set it up where contributions to the fund would only be needed if the fund is reduced below the reserve through defense or enforcement. The fund gives defense to the PFC council and backing to its rulings.
Bosena would be for more established corps and be open to even land holders. Just as the original PFC worked of the basis of mutually assured destruction in the case of someone trying to flip districts the same would apply to Thunderdome.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 08:26:00 -
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A tentative deal has been reached with Nyain San to convert Bosena into Thunderdome. We hope to start getting districts available for people to set up on the planet this week. If you are interested in being on Thunderdome please send me a mail in-game to "Kane Spero" or respond on this thread.
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Posted - 2014.03.12 20:16:00 -
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Negotiations have concluded with Nyain San in regard to Bosean. NS will be providing the districts for the use of Thunderdome at no cost.
I will help execute the transfer of districts with Nyain San to those that are interested in participating in Thunderdome. Please note that you need to be a well established corp.
I would like to thank Nyain San for their help in this community project. They have shown that their old ties with NF and the desire to help the community has let them rise above the current happenings in Molden Heath.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:19:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote: I think we all ready have a district on there.
Yes, Valor Coalition and KEQ are grandfathered into Thunderdome since you already have districts on the planet.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 14:22:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:We would really like to participate! if there's still a spot, count us in ;)
Mail me in-game at "Kane Spero" with THUNDERDOME in the title of the message.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:25:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:What I would like to be seen done with these Districts:
The establishment of an competitive Dust 514 Player League.
- With seasons and playoffs
-Banned weapons list
-Teams not confined to alliances or corps
-Smaller teams
The possibilities are really endless. All it would take to have small teams is just two host districts to bring in the two groups. We could even have folks that have streaming gear brought in to broadcast the matches.
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Posted - 2014.03.13 15:46:00 -
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Well, what you could do is have one district attack another with 150 clones. If the defending side looses 150 clones during the match then they still get a loss counted. You could also the vary the number of clones both sides have access to by agreement.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:52:00 -
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Red Star has been added to the members of Thunderdome. The war has slowed the process somewhat, but progress continues. Please send inquires about a Thunderdome district to Kane Spero in-game.
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Posted - 2014.03.28 16:45:00 -
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I'm happy to announce with the mass attack against Nyain San utterly crushed Thunderdome is now moving along well.
As it stands GAC will be moving from PFC to T-Dome and Big Bad Wolves will be settled on the planet as well. Again if you are interested in having a district on PFC or Thunderdome please message me in-game at "Kane Spero" with either PFC or Thunderdome in the subject heading.
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