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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:02:00 -
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People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5042
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:04:00 -
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Scrub logic.
I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch.
I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8056
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:07:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me.
I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I?
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Warbot Titan X
lNSURGENCY
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:07:00 -
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Why complain? Just quit the game.
Closed Beta Veteran - lNSURGENCY
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
1838
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I?
You're well balanced!Next step: go teach ccp how to balance a game now!
>Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1494
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:13:00 -
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Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez!
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
170
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:26:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me.
While I feel ya on the tanks, I can't say the rest for anything else.
People work hard for their proto gear. I'm going to run mine down your throat for as long as I can afford it. Suit wise, it's more balanced now than before, when no one had proto. Now you can play for a few weeks, accrue some LP and run proto as well.
Heavies have two guns, one up close, one anti armor... already made a thread about this so I won't get into but basically you just need to use better tactics against them. Come 1.8 I think people won't be wishing for more people running the commando suit. They have two proto damage modules attached to their suit... |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8058
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:28:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? You're well balanced!Next step: go teach ccp how to balance a game now!
I wouldn't mind honestly, but hell I'm just one guy. Hell so many in this community make such well reasoned and thought out suggestions all one can do is try to get those people heard.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7340
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:29:00 -
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As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit.
CPM1 Candidacy Thread
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
172
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? I do not judge you for comandos but if your running tanks ever game.....
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
451
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I?
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:32:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Scrub logic.
I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch.
I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed.
I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
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ads alt
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:34:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Scrub logic.
I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch.
I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed. My standerd cr can 1 clip heavies and instakill everything else....screw the acr
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8060
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:34:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? I do not judge you for comandos but if your running tanks ever game.....
I run tanks when my squad commander tells me to.
If I have to hammer an enemy home point that's what I'll use, If I have to combat enemy HAV I'll use them.
If Aero doesn't want me in my HAV then I get out.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8060
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:36:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? Tankmando?
Yeah I am often very aware I can jump out of a proto fit Maddy secure a point and get back in if I am careful.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2009
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:39:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez!
Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing.
My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P
dat gank xD
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8063
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:41:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD
MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked!
You knew they were good but stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked!
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2009
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Posted - 2014.03.10 03:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked!
Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8065
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:02:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P
You explicitly told me yesterday....that oh never mind whatevs you scrub.
" ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters"
- Malleus Malificorum
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2009
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin.
Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P You explicitly told me yesterday....that oh never mind whatevs you scrub. You must have misunderstood :P
I've had level one missiles for evar, but I finally have been skilling them.
For sure that was the bit that has me using them religiously :P
Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE
Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
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deepfried salad gilliam
Sanguine Knights
482
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:23:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons.
Proud Christian
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Asher Night
Dark Tengu
501
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:56:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons.
How many heavy weapons do you want? A rocket launcher? An even bigger HMG? What?
I have no problem with Heavies using light weapons, but I seriously wish CCP would redo the total HP by class. Light dropsuits - 250 max, Medium dropsuits - 500, Commandos - 750, Heavies 1,000. Armor plates should add 25 at basic, 50 advanced, and 100 proto. Something similar with shields.
Right now, there is just so much HP to some dropsuits that it is clearly the only reason they win gunfights, and I am saying this after having gone 10+ to 1 repeatedly in a militia heavy dropsuit. I've played as a heavy and it is absolutely easier than anything else. Whenever I get killed while playing as a scout after shredding through 1000+ HP of the enemy while dodging and strafing so beautifully it looks like visual music, only to be hit by two bullets from the enemy that rips through my 250 HP, I can't help but be a little frustrated. I attacked from behind. I was accurate. I only had about 1/6 the amount of HP he had, so I die. How was I outskilled?
While playing as a heavy, people will get the jump on me but I still turn around and kill them, and so many times I think "I really should have died just then", but I didn't because I simply had so much more HP and could easily turn around in time to kill them. All I think afterward is "How did I outskill them"?
100% Tactical Scout Corporation
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
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Posted - 2014.03.10 04:57:00 -
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deepfried salad gilliam wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons. Use a Commando suit if you want to use light weapons on a heavy frame...
If you are using a basic heavy or a sentinel with a rifle, you are using EHP to compensate for your lack of skill.
Also, the "I need a weapon with more range" argument is bullcrap. Forge Guns have 300m of range.
Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
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DootDoot
Da Short Buss
219
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Posted - 2014.03.10 05:20:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Scrub logic.
I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch.
I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed.
This is how you play CCP games. And usually why a majority of EVE players that play DUST go from the strongest option to the next.
That's what has been done in EVE for over a decade...There are some complaints about OP on the forums but really not much... More complaints that one race is used more then the other.. Which has never been fixed in 0.0 pvp.... Everyone in EVE just trains for that OP thing... and uses it...
Are there specialists who will run totally different things and work hard at making them effective? yup thats humanity.. and the strive for individuality at work.
It's a rare phenomenon in a CCP game until DUST launch.. where someone will use a vastly inferior suit and weapon to another option and then complain after about the players who use the stronger stuff and how it isn't fair.... The word "Fair" never really enters an EVE players mouth really....unless they have been a carebear for 4 years. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2055
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Posted - 2014.03.10 05:21:00 -
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i disagree.
CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course.
So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed.
Losing costs money. Good fits cost money.
You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it.
Don't blame the players, blame the game.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3449
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Posted - 2014.03.10 05:28:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote: I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals.
Truth
But be wary, there are those who defend what they have, and those who only weigh in on what they have. The key difference is making your own gear better versus making arguments based on the things you have most experience with.
I for one think 20GJ Railguns are OP in the sense that they take the role of blasters when it comes to anti infantry yet they work like they are supposed to against vehicles.
I tried Redline Railgunning
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
795
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Posted - 2014.03.10 06:29:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:i disagree.
CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course.
So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed.
Losing costs money. Good fits cost money.
You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it.
Don't blame the players, blame the game.
Yep, this is one of my biggest frustrations with CCP. They literally only create a few viable options in builds/weapons etc. Balance is the absolute last thing they worry about.
It completely pulls from the freedom of the game when you decide 90% of the weapons should suck compared to the other 10%.
Then there is the rebalances, now the deck gets shuffled. Now something else becomes hugely OP and is the only viable choice while some other weapon takes it turn at the back of the line. But still 10% of the weapons are king over the other 90%.
Eve is fun because there are so many different ways to play, Dust completely misses that point. |
Speedy McFaster
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.03.10 07:23:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:i disagree.
CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course.
So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed.
Losing costs money. Good fits cost money.
You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it.
Don't blame the players, blame the game.
I constantly put fun first, and yes it me mercilessly slaughtered. Its like most players dot know what fun it anymore. Its so worth it to run cheap fits when you get several kills against someone with 8xs your health or more. But what's the point of playing if you cant have fun? Video games are supposed to entertain and be creative and to have fun. Not mercilessly slaughter any and everyone and ruin fun for others. I don't think CCP knows what fun is. This game is about win, but I make it about fun and pay for it every single time.
If you get near the 7+ people I'm repping I'll rip your face off.
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HYENAKILLER X
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
662
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Posted - 2014.03.10 07:29:00 -
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I personaly think you can run what ever and be ok. I try to stay advanced in pubs. Complex dmg mods and the rest advanced.
I spec'd Into gal logi proto and dont even use it.
Cant fault people for their best efforts.
Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
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Kira Takizawa
WARNING LABEL Inc.
169
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:06:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit.
Agreed to a point but if everything was balanced LR wouldn't be acceptable either |
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