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Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:15:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit.
My thoughts exactly, I spent the entire time from when uprising dropped to 1.7 getting chewed out on manus peak and the like trying to use the HMG while the allmighty duvolle ruled all. So when the new rifles were announced and I found out they were going to have even MORE ******* RANGE I f-ing snapped and decided I'd finally had enough. Took respec sp out of assault dropships and within 24 hours of 1.7 had prof 3 RR and proceeded to bend over every Duvolle user and make them pay.
I'm probably one of the reasons it's such a problem now. For a while it was this beautiful window where attempted protostomping duvolle users would feebily fire back at me at more than 60m as they got torn to shreads, seemingly not able to understand that their duvolle was no longer king. Some would come back and do the same thing again, as if they assumed the first kill was a glitch or something. I was placing higher than the OP tankers for kills.
It wasn't stat padding or ego boosting I've been playing so long my KDR didn't change a single 0.01, and if I was into that I wouldn't have run HMG all through uprising with scouting as my side hobby for more of a challenge. If I saw duvolle in the kill feed out came the heavy RR suit, for revenge pure and simple. I knew it was a matter of time before it spread and became FotM but I needed catharsis. And medium suits paid dearly for it.
And then the HMG fix/buff came. The build was deleted and the RR got shelved until mid Feb when I decided to put it on my scout suit.
But considering I started playing this game when a Cal Logi didn't even need to bother avoiding the pointy end of an HMG the revenge was so very very sweet. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.10 08:41:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:True Adamance wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp.
A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? Tankmando? Conker. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.10 09:04:00 -
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I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such.
Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here.
As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 04:31:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such.
Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here.
As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended.
stop calling them Tankers! There might be 5 real tankers left in New Eden. The guys who tanked even when they were garbage and still did okay. Those are tankers. Everyone else is a FOTM fa88ot.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 05:46:00 -
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fabbot?! What is fabbot, i think 1337 for G was 9 0r 17 \/\/45I\I7
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.03.11 06:16:00 -
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So basically you made an assumption on all tankers and commandos saying they chose that because it's easy mode? Completely unfair.
And just what is hard mode then? I'm pretty sure you haven't picked your class and weapons because its "hard mode".
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
Are you OUKH?
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 06:19:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:So basically you made an assumption on all tankers and commandos saying they chose that because it's easy mode? Completely unfair.
And just what is hard mode then? I'm pretty sure you haven't picked your class and weapons because its "hard mode".
He cant be caldari, with this acusation for his failure, he dont have caldari nature
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 08:05:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such.
Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here.
As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended. stop calling them Tankers! There might be 5 real tankers left in New Eden. The guys who tanked even when they were garbage and still did okay. Those are tankers. Everyone else is a FOTM fa88ot.
tankers, scrubs, cowards, what's the difference? Doesn't matter if they're specced into it or not. They whined when av was nearly perfect. And now the games broken for everyone. If theres only 5 left maybe we can get rid of them once and for all.
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Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.03.11 08:36:00 -
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Hmm, they speced on that, thats not make them scrubs or cowards. The problem is not on their side, right now armors are powerfull and they spec on that because it was their choise. We dont have balanced AA weapons, but thats not their fault. I mostly doing that like this, if i see tank i change on swarms and if i making damage i trying to take down it. If not i simply avoid tank. I know there is issue (in my eyes speed of tanks and no a proper AA weapons agains them), but thats dont gave me a right to call them cowards, scrubs etc. If you have issues, just spec in to forge on full and you can be "tankiller", if not do not call them like that. Honestly its little silly and desilusional.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 08:59:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Hmm, they speced on that, thats not make them scrubs or cowards. The problem is not on their side, right now armors are powerfull and they spec on that because it was their choise. We dont have balanced AA weapons, but thats not their fault. I mostly doing that like this, if i see tank i change on swarms and if i making damage i trying to take down it. If not i simply avoid tank. I know there is issue (in my eyes speed of tanks and no a proper AA weapons agains them), but thats dont gave me a right to call them cowards, scrubs etc. If you have issues, just spec in to forge on full and you can be "tankiller", if not do not call them like that. Honestly its little silly and desilusional.
I don't think you understand whats happening here. He's saying not to call fotm militia tankers "tankers" I explicitly said most tankers are scrubs to account for the fotm people. which is why he said that. I consider them the same because they're all cowards, choosing to play an fps in a near invincible vehicle that can't be killed by conventional means. 1.6 was closer to balance than 1.7 The "tankers" were butthurt so they got av nerfed through whining.
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D3VASTAT0R
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.11 09:02:00 -
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This game is never going to be fair. Slayer logi, light weapon wielding heavys, vehicle in a ambush(team death match) if given the chance to be "FAIR" NO ONE WOULD TAKE IT. Crybabies 514. Sure this game will last but you'll forever cry. |
Bayeth Mal
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.11 09:36:00 -
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Anyone who doesnt run a PLC on a scout suit is a no skill scrub who needs a crutch to be competitive.
Wow, that was fun, I guess being a pompus self righteous jack-ass really is the new FotM! |
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