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JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 172	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:02:00 - [1] - Quote People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5042	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:04:00 - [2] - Quote Scrub logic. I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch. I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8056	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:07:00 - [3] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Warbot Titan X lNSURGENCY 3	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:07:00 - [4] - Quote Why complain? Just quit the game. Closed Beta Veteran - lNSURGENCY
xxwhitedevilxx M Maphia Clan Corporation 1838	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:08:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? You're well balanced!Next step: go teach ccp how to balance a game now! >Bastard I : "Cce me ne... futt! XD"
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1494	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:13:00 - [6] - Quote Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
Mike Ox Bigger Skill Shots 170	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:26:00 - [7] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. While I feel ya on the tanks, I can't say the rest for anything else. People work hard for their proto gear. I'm going to run mine down your throat for as long as I can afford it. Suit wise, it's more balanced now than before, when no one had proto. Now you can play for a few weeks, accrue some LP and run proto as well. Heavies have two guns, one up close, one anti armor... already made a thread about this so I won't get into but basically you just need to use better tactics against them. Come 1.8 I think people won't be wishing for more people running the commando suit. They have two proto damage modules attached to their suit...
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8058	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:28:00 - [8] - Quote xxwhitedevilxx M wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? You're well balanced!Next step: go teach ccp how to balance a game now! I wouldn't mind honestly, but hell I'm just one guy. Hell so many in this community make such well reasoned and thought out suggestions all one can do is try to get those people heard. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7340	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:29:00 - [9] - Quote As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit. CPM1 Candidacy Thread
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 172	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:29:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? I do not judge you for comandos but if your running tanks ever game..... Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits

SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 451	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:31:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? Tankmando?
Patrick57 5920	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:32:00 - [12] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Scrub logic. I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch. I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed. I think I'm a forum warrior level 5 :D
ads alt 164	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:34:00 - [13] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Scrub logic. I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch. I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed. My standerd cr can 1 clip heavies and instakill everything else....screw the acr Click here for 1.8 release date quote from devs
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8060	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:34:00 - [14] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? I do not judge you for comandos but if your running tanks ever game..... I run tanks when my squad commander tells me to. If I have to hammer an enemy home point that's what I'll use, If I have to combat enemy HAV I'll use them. If Aero doesn't want me in my HAV then I get out. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8060	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:36:00 - [15] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? Tankmando? Yeah I am often very aware I can jump out of a proto fit Maddy secure a point and get back in if I am careful. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2009	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:39:00 - [16] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8063	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:41:00 - [17] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good but stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2009	Posted - 2014.03.10 03:42:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8065	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:02:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P You explicitly told me yesterday....that oh never mind whatevs you scrub. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2009	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:21:00 - [20] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Hmm. I just like tanks. I'd run them even if they were paper thin. Try calling a missile gunnlogi a scrub tactic. Jeez! Currently skilling them and they are the most fun thing. My favourite fitting so far has to be nitrous 2x damage mods :P dat gank xD MWAHAHAHAHA it was Maquess and I that got you hooked! You knew they were good at stayed away but with our seductive Amarrian ways we got you hooked! Sorry True, but I've been watching Pearson running them for months now :P You explicitly told me yesterday....that oh never mind whatevs you scrub. You must have misunderstood :P I've had level one missiles for evar, but I finally have been skilling them. For sure that was the bit that has me using them religiously :P Assault ak.0 w/ScR+ScP 4LYFE Forum Warrior Level Two. (GëºGêçGëª)/

deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 482	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:23:00 - [21] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons. Proud Christian Free stuff for the next account you make:)
Asher Night Dark Tengu 501	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:56:00 - [22] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons. How many heavy weapons do you want? A rocket launcher? An even bigger HMG? What? I have no problem with Heavies using light weapons, but I seriously wish CCP would redo the total HP by class. Light dropsuits - 250 max, Medium dropsuits - 500, Commandos - 750, Heavies 1,000. Armor plates should add 25 at basic, 50 advanced, and 100 proto. Something similar with shields. Right now, there is just so much HP to some dropsuits that it is clearly the only reason they win gunfights, and I am saying this after having gone 10+ to 1 repeatedly in a militia heavy dropsuit. I've played as a heavy and it is absolutely easier than anything else. Whenever I get killed while playing as a scout after shredding through 1000+ HP of the enemy while dodging and strafing so beautifully it looks like visual music, only to be hit by two bullets from the enemy that rips through my 250 HP, I can't help but be a little frustrated. I attacked from behind. I was accurate. I only had about 1/6 the amount of HP he had, so I die. How was I outskilled? While playing as a heavy, people will get the jump on me but I still turn around and kill them, and so many times I think "I really should have died just then", but I didn't because I simply had so much more HP and could easily turn around in time to kill them. All I think afterward is "How did I outskill them"? 100% Tactical Scout Corporation
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 234	Posted - 2014.03.10 04:57:00 - [23] - Quote deepfried salad gilliam wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. untill there are more heavy weapons i can see validity in using light weapons. Use a Commando suit if you want to use light weapons on a heavy frame... If you are using a basic heavy or a sentinel with a rifle, you are using EHP to compensate for your lack of skill. Also, the "I need a weapon with more range" argument is bullcrap. Forge Guns have 300m of range. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
DootDoot Da Short Buss 219	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:20:00 - [24] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: Scrub logic. I use it, therefore leave it alone. I need my crutch. I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. I agree, I use the CR and I am 100% aware that it is OP, and that it needs to be nerfed. This is how you play CCP games. And usually why a majority of EVE players that play DUST go from the strongest option to the next. That's what has been done in EVE for over a decade...There are some complaints about OP on the forums but really not much... More complaints that one race is used more then the other.. Which has never been fixed in 0.0 pvp.... Everyone in EVE just trains for that OP thing... and uses it... Are there specialists who will run totally different things and work hard at making them effective? yup thats humanity.. and the strive for individuality at work. It's a rare phenomenon in a CCP game until DUST launch.. where someone will use a vastly inferior suit and weapon to another option and then complain after about the players who use the stronger stuff and how it isn't fair.... The word "Fair" never really enters an EVE players mouth really....unless they have been a carebear for 4 years.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2055	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:21:00 - [25] - Quote i disagree. CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course. So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed. Losing costs money. Good fits cost money. You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it. Don't blame the players, blame the game. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3449	Posted - 2014.03.10 05:28:00 - [26] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I wish more people actually looked at balance instead of defending what they use and believe it or not the self proclaimed "higher tier" players are more guilty of this than the casuals. Truth But be wary, there are those who defend what they have, and those who only weigh in on what they have. The key difference is making your own gear better versus making arguments based on the things you have most experience with. I for one think 20GJ Railguns are OP in the sense that they take the role of blasters when it comes to anti infantry yet they work like they are supposed to against vehicles. I tried Redline Railgunning
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 795	Posted - 2014.03.10 06:29:00 - [27] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: i disagree. CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course. So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed. Losing costs money. Good fits cost money. You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it. Don't blame the players, blame the game. Yep, this is one of my biggest frustrations with CCP. They literally only create a few viable options in builds/weapons etc. Balance is the absolute last thing they worry about. It completely pulls from the freedom of the game when you decide 90% of the weapons should suck compared to the other 10%. Then there is the rebalances, now the deck gets shuffled. Now something else becomes hugely OP and is the only viable choice while some other weapon takes it turn at the back of the line. But still 10% of the weapons are king over the other 90%. Eve is fun because there are so many different ways to play, Dust completely misses that point.
Speedy McFaster Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 8	Posted - 2014.03.10 07:23:00 - [28] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: i disagree. CCP wants this game to be about the win. Nothing else matters except the win...except money, of course. So that's why fun is put last by most people. Putting fun first gets you killed. Losing costs money. Good fits cost money. You think pubs are bad? Try a PC. It's literally the scrubbiest tactics all in one battle. I hate it. Don't blame the players, blame the game. I constantly put fun first, and yes it me mercilessly slaughtered. Its like most players dot know what fun it anymore. Its so worth it to run cheap fits when you get several kills against someone with 8xs your health or more. But what's the point of playing if you cant have fun? Video games are supposed to entertain and be creative and to have fun. Not mercilessly slaughter any and everyone and ruin fun for others. I don't think CCP knows what fun is. This game is about win, but I make it about fun and pay for it every single time. If you get near the 7+ people I'm repping I'll rip your face off.
HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 662	Posted - 2014.03.10 07:29:00 - [29] - Quote I personaly think you can run what ever and be ok. I try to stay advanced in pubs. Complex dmg mods and the rest advanced. I spec'd Into gal logi proto and dont even use it. Cant fault people for their best efforts. Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
Kira Takizawa WARNING LABEL Inc. 169	Posted - 2014.03.10 08:06:00 - [30] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit. Agreed to a point but if everything was balanced LR wouldn't be acceptable either

Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 195	Posted - 2014.03.10 08:15:00 - [31] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: As one of the few people in Dust to skill all the way up to level 5 in commandos, I don't find anything wrong with sentinels using light weapons. It's not the suit, it's the weapon. Think about it, you see a sentinel with a rail rifle and everyone screams "OMG OP THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!" but then you see a sentinel with a laser rifle and what are people saying? Blame the weapon, not the suit. My thoughts exactly, I spent the entire time from when uprising dropped to 1.7 getting chewed out on manus peak and the like trying to use the HMG while the allmighty duvolle ruled all. So when the new rifles were announced and I found out they were going to have even MORE ******* RANGE I f-ing snapped and decided I'd finally had enough. Took respec sp out of assault dropships and within 24 hours of 1.7 had prof 3 RR and proceeded to bend over every Duvolle user and make them pay. I'm probably one of the reasons it's such a problem now. For a while it was this beautiful window where attempted protostomping duvolle users would feebily fire back at me at more than 60m as they got torn to shreads, seemingly not able to understand that their duvolle was no longer king. Some would come back and do the same thing again, as if they assumed the first kill was a glitch or something. I was placing higher than the OP tankers for kills. It wasn't stat padding or ego boosting I've been playing so long my KDR didn't change a single 0.01, and if I was into that I wouldn't have run HMG all through uprising with scouting as my side hobby for more of a challenge. If I saw duvolle in the kill feed out came the heavy RR suit, for revenge pure and simple. I knew it was a matter of time before it spread and became FotM but I needed catharsis. And medium suits paid dearly for it. And then the HMG fix/buff came. The build was deleted and the RR got shelved until mid Feb when I decided to put it on my scout suit. But considering I started playing this game when a Cal Logi didn't even need to bother avoiding the pointy end of an HMG the revenge was so very very sweet.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 404	Posted - 2014.03.10 08:41:00 - [32] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: True Adamance wrote: JARREL THOMAS wrote: People with heavys with light weapons tank spam pro stomp. A bunch of you go for ez mode and try to defend it tell others to "get gud"( Tankers ) or try to say we need the range ( heavys and if you guys want light weapons then spec into commando) Its trully sad you try to change everything else for your own sake... I really do feel bad for the people that want this game to improve including me. I run Tanks and Commando's....... what am I? Tankmando? Conker.
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 404	Posted - 2014.03.10 09:04:00 - [33] - Quote I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such. Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here. As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended.
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2058	Posted - 2014.03.11 04:31:00 - [34] - Quote Auris Lionesse wrote: I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such. Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here. As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended. stop calling them Tankers! There might be 5 real tankers left in New Eden. The guys who tanked even when they were garbage and still did okay. Those are tankers. Everyone else is a FOTM fa88ot. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 328	Posted - 2014.03.11 05:46:00 - [35] - Quote fabbot?! What is fabbot, i think 1337 for G was 9 0r 17 \/\/45I\I7 Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3387	Posted - 2014.03.11 06:16:00 - [36] - Quote So basically you made an assumption on all tankers and commandos saying they chose that because it's easy mode? Completely unfair. And just what is hard mode then? I'm pretty sure you haven't picked your class and weapons because its "hard mode". Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 328	Posted - 2014.03.11 06:19:00 - [37] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: So basically you made an assumption on all tankers and commandos saying they chose that because it's easy mode? Completely unfair. And just what is hard mode then? I'm pretty sure you haven't picked your class and weapons because its "hard mode". He cant be caldari, with this acusation for his failure, he dont have caldari nature Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 411	Posted - 2014.03.11 08:05:00 - [38] - Quote Charlotte O'Dell wrote: Auris Lionesse wrote: I agree most tankers are scrubs I don't really have a huge problem with light weapon sentinels provided they're balanced. as I explained in another thread the penalties of using a frigate weapon on a battleship, less effective than a frigate, less effective against other battleships and such. Since most stnd heavies/sentinels with light weapons suck, they're not a huge problem. but they're should be a penalty if you choose an unorthodox playstyle. Much like using a laser rifle on the suits that don't have a heat reduction. you open choice up at a cost. It should apply here. As far as proto goes, welcome to new Eden. If your expecting a fair fight stay in high security. Using a tech 2 ship in eve with a full assortment of tech 2 mods and weapons is not a crutch. The only problem is dust is lacking the noobie protection eve has. You have nowhere to go to opt out. There's nothing wrong with protostomping. I'm allowed to scam and rip you off also. If that bothers you this isn't the game for you lol. Blame Ccp for not implementing ways to separate the playerbase, not the people for playing the game as intended. stop calling them Tankers! There might be 5 real tankers left in New Eden. The guys who tanked even when they were garbage and still did okay. Those are tankers. Everyone else is a FOTM fa88ot. tankers, scrubs, cowards, what's the difference? Doesn't matter if they're specced into it or not. They whined when av was nearly perfect. And now the games broken for everyone. If theres only 5 left maybe we can get rid of them once and for all. If they're running tanks they're tankers.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 333	Posted - 2014.03.11 08:36:00 - [39] - Quote Hmm, they speced on that, thats not make them scrubs or cowards. The problem is not on their side, right now armors are powerfull and they spec on that because it was their choise. We dont have balanced AA weapons, but thats not their fault. I mostly doing that like this, if i see tank i change on swarms and if i making damage i trying to take down it. If not i simply avoid tank. I know there is issue (in my eyes speed of tanks and no a proper AA weapons agains them), but thats dont gave me a right to call them cowards, scrubs etc. If you have issues, just spec in to forge on full and you can be "tankiller", if not do not call them like that. Honestly its little silly and desilusional. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator BHD since MAG
Auris Lionesse Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 411	Posted - 2014.03.11 08:59:00 - [40] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Hmm, they speced on that, thats not make them scrubs or cowards. The problem is not on their side, right now armors are powerfull and they spec on that because it was their choise. We dont have balanced AA weapons, but thats not their fault. I mostly doing that like this, if i see tank i change on swarms and if i making damage i trying to take down it. If not i simply avoid tank. I know there is issue (in my eyes speed of tanks and no a proper AA weapons agains them), but thats dont gave me a right to call them cowards, scrubs etc. If you have issues, just spec in to forge on full and you can be "tankiller", if not do not call them like that. Honestly its little silly and desilusional. I don't think you understand whats happening here. He's saying not to call fotm militia tankers "tankers" I explicitly said most tankers are scrubs to account for the fotm people. which is why he said that. I consider them the same because they're all cowards, choosing to play an fps in a near invincible vehicle that can't be killed by conventional means. 1.6 was closer to balance than 1.7 The "tankers" were butthurt so they got av nerfed through whining.

D3VASTAT0R Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.03.11 09:02:00 - [41] - Quote This game is never going to be fair. Slayer logi, light weapon wielding heavys, vehicle in a ambush(team death match) if given the chance to be "FAIR" NO ONE WOULD TAKE IT. Crybabies 514. Sure this game will last but you'll forever cry.
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 199	Posted - 2014.03.11 09:36:00 - [42] - Quote Anyone who doesnt run a PLC on a scout suit is a no skill scrub who needs a crutch to be competitive. Wow, that was fun, I guess being a pompus self righteous jack-ass really is the new FotM!


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