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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:47:00 -
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Seriously, it's not fun now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwRozQen_0&feature=youtu.be&t=16m1s (The legend345, one of the best tankers this game has ever seen)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FyD5Nolwo&list=UUjT4MFpWY3rtZ3jbOA536zA (Nod Keras, another good tanker (but an even more amazing sniper))
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KNSdD8PYgY(Physcotic Shooter, not only good in tanks but he also does ADS' too)
That is all.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:49:00 -
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same.
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:49:00 -
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You're not the only one, trust me. Nowadays all these scrubs load in tanks and think they're good. It used to be either you were a good tanker or your **** blew up in a few seconds. There wasn't much in between. |
Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:56:00 -
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to be honest, nod keras tank fit was sh*tty and I still don't know why legend is considered the best. And physcotic was good because in chromosome tanks were good (not saying he is bad or that I am better). Chromosome tanks were awesome!! Miss my sagaris.
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.08 03:59:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:to be honest, nod keras tank fit was sh*tty and I still don't know why legend is considered the best. And physcotic was good because in chromosome tanks were good (not saying he is bad or that I am better). Chromosome tanks were awesome!! Miss my sagaris.
Couldn't find much tank gameplay... but I figured I needed to put an enforcer tank in there... we all know we're never getting our Marauder tanks back :(
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:01:00 -
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I remember throwing down about 1mil ISK when fighting a good tanker.
Now I'm sitting in a 200k Railgun HAV just to ward off the Soma Scrubs.
It's so fluxing boring.
lolPLC
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bamboo x
Eternal Beings
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:05:00 -
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I didn't realize at the time, but it was great.
Immediately when the enemy saw my militia tank, it was destroyed. Period. Because a tank that requires no skill SHOULD SUCK.
And the only OP weapons were Scrambler and Assault rifles. The other weapons were actually commonly used too.
I hate CR and RR...
Hanging up the Min Logi, going full Amarr Sentinel with HMG, Ion Pistol, and Forge Gun.
My record high KD about 47/14
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
4878
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:11:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:You're not the only one, trust me. Nowadays all these scrubs load in tanks and think they're good. It used to be either you were a good tanker or your **** blew up in a few seconds. There wasn't much in between.
It's disgusting honestly, hoping it's fixed before Matar tanks come out and I return to tanking. 
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 4
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:12:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:
to be honest, nod keras tank fit was sh*tty and I still don't know why legend is considered the best. And physcotic was good because in chromosome tanks were good (not saying he is bad or that I am better). Chromosome tanks were awesome!! Miss my sagaris.
TheLegend earned his title in PC. No one can do what he does with a blaster in PC.
Either you tank in the pits and prove yourself there or you are irrelevant. Maybe I am prejudiced but if you can't handle your tank in PC than what you can do in a pub doesn't really matter.
The only good thing about the new tank meta is that it has sorted out the team work tankers from the soloists. You cannot be a lone wolf in PC, at least if you want to win.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:15:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:
to be honest, nod keras tank fit was sh*tty and I still don't know why legend is considered the best. And physcotic was good because in chromosome tanks were good (not saying he is bad or that I am better). Chromosome tanks were awesome!! Miss my sagaris.
TheLegend earned his title in PC. No one can do what he does with a blaster in PC. Either you tank in the pits and prove yourself there or you are irrelevant. Maybe I am prejudiced but if you can't handle your tank in PC than what you can do in a pub doesn't really matter. The only good thing about the new tank meta is that it has sorted out the team work tankers from the soloists. You cannot be a lone wolf in PC, at least if you want to win.
Legand never killed me, I would always kill him. Well, other than the time his Maddy grew wings.
Anyways, PC is just a bunch of FOTM scrubs, so PC doesn't matter either.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:23:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:
Legand never killed me, I would always kill him. Well, other than the time his Maddy grew wings.
Anyways, PC is just a bunch of FOTM scrubs, so PC doesn't matter either.
OK, you keep telling yourself that.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:23:00 -
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Ya know, at least the sh!tters in tanks dont rely on auto aim like the rest of the scrubs.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:24:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:
to be honest, nod keras tank fit was sh*tty and I still don't know why legend is considered the best. And physcotic was good because in chromosome tanks were good (not saying he is bad or that I am better). Chromosome tanks were awesome!! Miss my sagaris.
TheLegend earned his title in PC. No one can do what he does with a blaster in PC. Either you tank in the pits and prove yourself there or you are irrelevant. Maybe I am prejudiced but if you can't handle your tank in PC than what you can do in a pub doesn't really matter. The only good thing about the new tank meta is that it has sorted out the team work tankers from the soloists. You cannot be a lone wolf in PC, at least if you want to win.
he gets paid/ supported in PC by his corp in costs. If I knew that I had a tank budget, I would also try but since (last time I did PC in TUL, I was all on my own with costs). Also, why can no one do what he does with a blaster? what does he do with a blaster?
TL;DR, Money is king, I will try as hard as I will be paid.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:25:00 -
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I don't; that was a **** show. This is worse, but it's not that far off.
Also, you didn't mention yourself, so it seems as if you were just watching......
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:31:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:
he gets paid/ supported in PC by his corp in costs. If I knew that I had a tank budget, I would also try but since (last time I did PC in TUL, I was all on my own with costs). Also, why can no one do what he does with a blaster? what does he do with a blaster?
TL;DR, Money is king, I will try as hard as I will be paid.
Anyway- A dude who tanks in ambush losses my respect. (unless counter tanking). Dunas the lowest of the lows and his scrub corp.
Being fronted tank costs used to matter, it shouldn't now, unless you are throwing tanks away.
Being able to rack up kills in a PC with a blaster tank is difficult. Doing it while minimizing losses is another factor. Did he have the luxury of strategy being catered to his skills? Of course but any smart FC would put that to good use.
Using a blaster to pick off demoralized infantry in starter fits is not the same as trying to knock down proto suits that know how to move.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:35:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:
he gets paid/ supported in PC by his corp in costs. If I knew that I had a tank budget, I would also try but since (last time I did PC in TUL, I was all on my own with costs). Also, why can no one do what he does with a blaster? what does he do with a blaster?
TL;DR, Money is king, I will try as hard as I will be paid.
Anyway- A dude who tanks in ambush losses my respect. (unless counter tanking). Dunas the lowest of the lows and his scrub corp.
Being fronted tank costs used to matter, it shouldn't now, unless you are throwing tanks away. Being able to rack up kills in a PC with a blaster tank is difficult. Doing it while minimizing losses is another factor. Did he have the luxury of strategy being catered to his skills? Of course but any smart FC would put that to good use. Using a blaster to pick off demoralized infantry in starter fits is not the same as trying to knock down proto suits that know how to move.
Uhhh... so? I Have killed many proto suits. I can minimize loss (I already have). Blasters tanks are nothing special and nothing hard. Aim shoot kill. I haven't played him but he seems over glorified.
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:35:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:
Also, you didn't mention yourself, so it seems as if you were just watching......
Anyone who has fought me in PC can talk about my tanking. I don't need to.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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ONE-I-BANDIT
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
38
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:36:00 -
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I wish they put the steering controls back to the way they were. As of now you can go right to an degree but some times its wants to go the other direction any one else have this problem and has any one told CCP this ? This alone has caused me to lose several tanks when trying to get out of some where or out maneuver an rail tank.
Wait till they get a load of me
Proto Logi /Big Bad Tanker/ Beginner Heavy HMG
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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:40:00 -
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Vegetation Monster wrote:
Uhhh... so? I Have killed many proto suits. I can minimize loss (I already have). Blasters tanks are nothing special and nothing hard. Aim shoot kill. I haven't played him but he seems over glorified.
Pubs don't equate. If that isn't enough of an explanation, than play more PC against good corps.
Legend was doing his blaster work in a meta where every infantry troop could potentially wipe out 90% of a tanks HP with their nades. There was only a single viable PC fit, and the turret didn't change that. Engagements were almost exclusively about position. If you were in the disadvantage at the start of the fight you had to egress ASAP and Legend is the master of that.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Vegetation Monster
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:51:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Vegetation Monster wrote:
Uhhh... so? I Have killed many proto suits. I can minimize loss (I already have). Blasters tanks are nothing special and nothing hard. Aim shoot kill. I haven't played him but he seems over glorified.
Pubs don't equate. If that isn't enough of an explanation, than play more PC against good corps. Legend was doing his blaster work in a meta where every infantry troop could potentially wipe out 90% of a tanks HP with their nades. There was only a single viable PC fit, and the turret didn't change that. Engagements were almost exclusively about position. If you were in the disadvantage at the start of the fight you had to egress ASAP and Legend is the master of that.
I know how sh*t tanks were in 1.6 specifically shields (the ones I unfortunately specced) but I made them work even in PC. I ran active tanks in 1.6. 3200 shield gunnlogis that could take a heavy beating and 2 heavy shield reps to back me up. This fit worked well in PC except that I had to time my engagements on armor tanks precisely when their reps were down. I had Xt-1 cycled to demolish an unrepping tank. TBH, that gunnlogi was one of the greatest fit I had come up with. Immune to nades and swarms even at proto level. But that's just my fit in 1.6.
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ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.08 04:52:00 -
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So I did a little tanking pre-1.7 but not a ton. But man... im loving tank v tank battles in 1.7. So much fun. Its pretty basic right now but there is plenty of room for it to grow. I dunno... I really enjoy it.
I feel like the only thing that really needs to be done would be to buff forges slightly and swarms/PLC a lot. Overall its pretty fun imo... maybe that's just me though. |
KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.03.08 07:51:00 -
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The only thing I hate aside from a major reworking of the modules indicated in my signature are fits that would be unfeasible if we had a capacitor. All the fits you might see with triple hardeners, triple damage mods, etc. All make for silly tank fights. Triple hardening when combined with an armor plate and hardener is just about unkillable by one tank even with 3 damage mods. A capacitor would balance this fit and make fights a lot more interesting.
The problem with tanks
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8006
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Posted - 2014.03.08 07:55:00 -
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I liked 1.6 Tanking as well....just felt a little more fleshed out..... you could customise the fits a lot more, and that was one skill of HAV battles, you also had to have the SP, and the knowledge of battlefield and tank since you were more susceptible to AV fire.
I do miss it soooooooo soooooooo much.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
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Posted - 2014.03.08 08:05:00 -
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i remember killing legend with a forgegun awhile back(around 1.6) and dont remember any thing note worthy, he was just another moment in time for me.why is he considered the best?
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Horizon Limit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.03.08 11:24:00 -
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I miss 1.6 too
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ROCKO THE HELLHOUND
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.03.08 12:40:00 -
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i miss it too, pro-fit tanks were an asset in both directions - price and impact - instead of depending on luck "sooner-or-later-railgun-fodder anyway".
by my opinion, the only changes to make on the tank-aspect of pre-1.7 vehicles was buffing shield-tank's durability in tank-versus-tank combat and giving them the agility-advantage they got in the end as well as a decent but not insane nerf to AV (but not as much as now).
ah ja, good times - hopefully they will at least tweak the railgun and/ or damage-mods and hardeners soon
(really, i think it should not be allowed to fit more than one of those per hitpoint-pool and weapon type, would solve a lot of problems by itself - i had even expected CCP to be smart enough to bring this stacking-penalty-type for those modules with 1.7, was telling ppl "they will not allow you to fit multiple of them anyway - cuz that would be crazy" - oh well, i guess that is CCP for you...). |
Sgt Buttscratch
KILL-EM-QUICK
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Posted - 2014.03.08 13:43:00 -
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1.6 was a lot better. Even tho AV was beyond powerful in some cases, driving the tanks took some work. Timing on modules mattered, one badly timed activation couuld lead to tank loss. Needed my squad, Trusty gunner, great sniper and altogether good and eyes on the battlefield.
1.7 is a joke.
I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas
Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:12:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:i remember killing legend with a forgegun awhile back(around 1.6) and dont remember any thing note worthy, he was just another moment in time for me.why is he considered one of the best?
You do realized AV was extremely potent in 1.6, right? Like 4 swarms rounds to kill tanks..
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pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:28:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
Legand never killed me, I would always kill him. Well, other than the time his Maddy grew wings.
Anyways, PC is just a bunch of FOTM scrubs, so PC doesn't matter either.
OK, you keep telling yourself that.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:41:00 -
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No, No and No
Frankly i dont miss swarms that i cant see and follow me around x amount of corners while having full coverage of the map and are able to deal 3k+ dmg
Or useless gunlogis and there hardeners
Or the ability to not be able to see less than 50m
Or AV nades which cost 20k but can deal 2k+ dmg and take out your 1mil+ tank but thats fine but now that my tank can be 70k and take out your 100k protosuit its not fine
Or lolenforcers
Or lolmissiles
Or much of anything tbh from 1.0 onwards to the last day of 1.6
Intelligence is OP
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.08 16:56:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:No, No and No
Frankly i dont miss swarms that i cant see and follow me around x amount of corners while having full coverage of the map and are able to deal 3k+ dmg
Or useless gunlogis and there hardeners
Or the ability to not be able to see less than 50m
Or AV nades which cost 20k but can deal 2k+ dmg and take out your 1mil+ tank but thats fine but now that my tank can be 70k and take out your 100k protosuit its not fine
Or lolenforcers
Or lolmissiles
Or much of anything tbh from 1.0 onwards to the last day of 1.6
I do... the very first day of 1.7 I specced into shield tanks, I noticed they were extremely easy to fit, I had to make no sacrifices to keep my Ion cannon, I still had all proto modules. I called in my tank, drove to an objective, killed a few guys to the point where they brought out swarms... it was then when I realized that if one of my hardeners were on my tank was invincible to swarms ("balanced" and "fun"), I thought this was going to get patched come the next update... but considering it's been 3 months I've given up on the fact that CCP will do the right thing.
Anyway, back to the story, after that first game I squaded up with some corp mates and ran a few games that had to be the most boring games I've had in awhile compared to 1.6 it was not a challenge to survive, if I really wanted to I could just camp in one place for the entire game with little to no threat (again "fun"), tanking used to be a challenge, an extremely frustrating challenge, but a heck of a lot more fun than the crap we have now.
My point is, sure AV was god mode in 1.6, but thats what made it fun.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:05:00 -
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wtf? thelegend sucks
he abuses the nitros back and forth **** and when you basically beat him he has nitros every 10 seconds
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:09:00 -
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ads alt wrote:wtf? thelegend sucks he abuses the nitros back and forth **** and when you basically beat him he has nitros every 10 seconds
Did you even watch the video?
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2570
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:19:00 -
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I'm not sure why people asked for a vehicle rebalance. But they got it, and everybody suffered for it.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Hakyou Brutor
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:22:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I'm not sure why people asked for a vehicle rebalance. But they got it, and everybody suffered for it. That's the thing, I don't recall anybody asking for an entire rebalance, but I guess that is just CCP not paying attention to the player base.
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Legacy Rising
2570
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:30:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I'm not sure why people asked for a vehicle rebalance. But they got it, and everybody suffered for it. That's the thing, I don't recall anybody asking for an entire rebalance, but I guess that is just CCP not paying attention to the player base.
Well, they kind of didn't have a choice to but to redesign the system.
They should have nerfed AV first, then tested the waters.
But honestly, AV would have gotten rebuffed, because it would have become impossible to beat a tank unless you had a tank and millions of sp invested.
So we get a stall mate and nothing changes. So what can they do?
Nerf AV and completely change tanks so that everyone has a chance. A MLT soma beating a Madruger is like a Proto suit getting owned by a MLT AR.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:31:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:ads alt wrote:wtf? thelegend sucks he abuses the nitros back and forth **** and when you basically beat him he has nitros every 10 seconds Did you even watch the video? If you did and you STILL say this, then you clearly never tried tanking in PC pre-1.7.
Oh yes I did
Many enforcers were destroyed for my district without dying
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2859
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:43:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:No, No and No
Frankly i dont miss swarms that i cant see and follow me around x amount of corners while having full coverage of the map and are able to deal 3k+ dmg
Or useless gunlogis and there hardeners
Or the ability to not be able to see less than 50m
Or AV nades which cost 20k but can deal 2k+ dmg and take out your 1mil+ tank but thats fine but now that my tank can be 70k and take out your 100k protosuit its not fine
Or lolenforcers
Or lolmissiles
Or much of anything tbh from 1.0 onwards to the last day of 1.6 I do... the very first day of 1.7 I specced into shield tanks, I noticed they were extremely easy to fit, I had to make no sacrifices to keep my Ion cannon, I still had all proto modules. I called in my tank, drove to an objective, killed a few guys to the point where they brought out swarms... it was then when I realized that if one of my hardeners were on my tank was invincible to swarms ("balanced" and "fun"), I thought this was going to get patched come the next update... but considering it's been 3 months I've given up on the fact that CCP will do the right thing. Anyway, back to the story, after that first game I squaded up with some corp mates and ran a few games that had to be the most boring games I've had in awhile compared to 1.6 it was not a challenge to survive, if I really wanted to I could just camp in one place for the entire game with little to no threat (again "fun"), tanking used to be a challenge, an extremely frustrating challenge, but a heck of a lot more fun than the crap we have now. My point is, sure AV was god mode in 1.6, but thats what made it fun.
Swarms effectiveness to shields - 70%
With hardener on dont even bother also each missile hits on its own so it wont break the regen
On the other foot AV was god mode and didnt make it fun, now AV is a challenge and that makes it fun
Intelligence is OP
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DEATH DEALER 1975
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:49:00 -
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ONE-I-BANDIT wrote:I wish they put the steering controls back to the way they were. As of now you can go right to an degree but some times its wants to go the other direction any one else have this problem and has any one told CCP this ? This alone has caused me to lose several tanks when trying to get out of some where or out maneuver an rail tank.
I have this issue almost every game...that and a lack of hit detection has lost me many tanks. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
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Posted - 2014.03.08 17:54:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Swarms effectiveness to shields - 70%
With hardener on dont even bother also each missile hits on its own so it wont break the regen
On the other foot AV was god mode and didnt make it fun, now AV is a challenge and that makes it fun
The Difference:
It was still theoretically (and literally) possible to survive on your own before 1.6 while driving a tank.
Now? It's theoretically impossible to destroy an HAV with 3 Complex Armor Reppers while using AV.
But that's cool. I've got a Particle Accelerator reserved for the "special" tankers.
lolPLC
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.03.08 18:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
Swarms effectiveness to shields - 70%
With hardener on dont even bother also each missile hits on its own so it wont break the regen
On the other foot AV was god mode and didnt make it fun, now AV is a challenge and that makes it fun
The Difference: It was still theoretically (and literally) possible to survive on your own before 1.6 while driving a tank. Now? It's theoretically impossible to destroy an HAV with 3 Complex Armor Reppers while using AV. But that's cool. I've got a Particle Accelerator reserved for the "special" tankers.
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
Intelligence is OP
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Mike Ox Bigger
Skill Shots
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I went up against a guy with two reps and only one hardner. His hardner was down, got him on fire and close to death with the assault foge, when I reloaded he was full health again and had activated his hardner :( |
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Posted - 2014.03.08 19:53:00 -
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Mike Ox Bigger wrote:I went up against a guy with two reps and only one hardner. His hardner was down, got him on fire and close to death with the assault foge, when I reloaded he was full health again and had activated his hardner :(
Double reps and double hards needs to be fixed...
1.8 will release...
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Scheneighnay McBob
Hammerhead i Eagle Thrust
4237
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:22:00 -
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It's not really HAVs this build, it's active modules in general being OP as hell
I am your scan error.
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2860
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:42:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:It's not really HAVs this build, it's active modules in general being OP as hell
lol
Infantry complained passive mods were OP in the past
CCP just cant win
Intelligence is OP
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5430
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Posted - 2014.03.08 20:53:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun.
You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that.
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2861
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:01:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that.
You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis
Intelligence is OP
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Billi Gene
503
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:14:00 -
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The Attorney General wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
Legand never killed me, I would always kill him. Well, other than the time his Maddy grew wings.
Anyways, PC is just a bunch of FOTM scrubs, so PC doesn't matter either.
OK, you keep telling yourself that.
i havent done PC since a couple months after its release, so correct me if i am wrong...
PC tends to magnify the effectiveness of tactics based around the most effective fittings.
Given the financial stakes for those involved, along with the increased rewards for participation, the PC meta has more than earned its reputation as the spiritual home of proto-gaming.
ergo, PC is a highly focused micro meta of what can best be identified as the most effective tactics, fittings and practices.
This is as it should be, if you had a "end game" mode where the worst practices, tactics, fittings and least effective loadouts were used with such frequency as to be common, then you might well be correct is saying said game was broken?
If you only gather data from a handful of fitting loadouts, you are not gaining a greater picture of the whole. It is no coincidence that CCP have just had their Scout and Heavy events and now expect to release the full line up of scout and heavy suits.
Data is more useful than opinion, though if analysed with skepticism, opinion can be a good measure of enjoyability(in this case).
PC will matter as regards balance, when the parity between suit and weapon, of various origin, is more inline with the balance inherent to the EvE combat system.
just realised that your response may well have been nothing more than a pithy retort aimed at the claims of ability ;P
and not the assertion that pc is broken..
bleh Im gonna post any ways :P
Pedant, Ape, Troll.
My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:23:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that. You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis
Ive used it
Swarms dont do ****, or forges
1.8 will release...
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poison Diego
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
320
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:34:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:The Attorney General wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
Legand never killed me, I would always kill him. Well, other than the time his Maddy grew wings.
Anyways, PC is just a bunch of FOTM scrubs, so PC doesn't matter either.
OK, you keep telling yourself that. i havent done PC since a couple months after its release, so correct me if i am wrong... PC tends to magnify the effectiveness of tactics based around the most effective fittings. Given the financial stakes for those involved, along with the increased rewards for participation, the PC meta has more than earned its reputation as the spiritual home of proto-gaming. ergo, PC is a highly focused micro meta of what can best be identified as the most effective tactics, fittings and practices. This is as it should be, if you had a "end game" mode where the worst practices, tactics, fittings and least effective loadouts were used with such frequency as to be common, then you might well be correct is saying said game was broken? If you only gather data from a handful of fitting loadouts, you are not gaining a greater picture of the whole. It is no coincidence that CCP have just had their Scout and Heavy events and now expect to release the full line up of scout and heavy suits. Data is more useful than opinion, though if analysed with skepticism, opinion can be a good measure of enjoyability(in this case). PC will matter as regards balance, when the parity between suit and weapon, of various origin, is more inline with the balance inherent to the EvE combat system. just realised that your response may well have been nothing more than a pithy retort aimed at the claims of ability ;P and not the assertion that pc is broken.. bleh Im gonna post any ways :P
Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks)
and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out.
Cant hate that, can I?
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2861
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Posted - 2014.03.08 21:57:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that. You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis Ive used it Swarms dont do ****, or forges
Not on their own
Get 2 together, swarms are best for it 6 volleys will mince it since they will do max dmg possible, go against proto hurts like hell
Thats why 2 rep and a hardener is your best option so you can tank the dmg for alot longer
Intelligence is OP
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
5436
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:07:00 -
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poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I?
Right.
From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario:
You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day.
#worldoftanksisthatway
#avmasterrce
lolPLC
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:10:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:ads alt wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that. You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis Ive used it Swarms dont do ****, or forges Not on their own Get 2 together, swarms are best for it 6 volleys will mince it since they will do max dmg possible, go against proto hurts like hell Thats why 2 rep and a hardener is your best option so you can tank the dmg for alot longer
Thats my ion cannon setup, never use a tank without a hardener...
1.8 will release...
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I? Right. From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario: You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day. #worldoftanksisthatway #avmasterrce
All you need is a particle cannon to camp the redline to prevent that...
1.8 will release...
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poison Diego
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
320
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I? Right. From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario: You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day. #worldoftanksisthatway #avmasterrce
I heard that the railgun might be getting Its rightful nerf in 1.8 and if so I would like to see you try haha
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poison Diego
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:22:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I? Right. From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario: You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day. #worldoftanksisthatway #avmasterrce All you need is a particle cannon to camp the redline to prevent that...
And if they do then 1 hardner won't do the job, My old fit used to be 2 reps and 1 hardner but after everyone got the partcle cannon and damage mods I figured that it wasn't really working so I altered it a bit and now I have 2 hardners and 1 rep now..
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:23:00 -
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poison Diego wrote:ads alt wrote:Atiim wrote:poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I? Right. From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario: You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day. #worldoftanksisthatway #avmasterrce All you need is a particle cannon to camp the redline to prevent that... And if they do then 1 hardner won't do the job, My old fit used to be 2 reps and 1 hardner but after everyone got the partcle cannon and damage mods I figured that it wasn't really working so I altered it a bit and now I have 2 hardners and 1 rep now..
My ion cannon has 2 reps 1 hard
And I meant camp the enemy redline
1.8 will release...
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poison Diego
NECROM0NGERS
The CORVOS
321
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Posted - 2014.03.08 22:26:00 -
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Atiim wrote:poison Diego wrote:Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks) and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out. Cant hate that, can I? Right. From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario: You begin firing and killing hostile infantry
Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.
You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.
Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day. #worldoftanksisthatway #avmasterrce
You talk like there would only be on tanker on the other side... But there you would be so mistaken, there is never only one
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The Attorney General
2426
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Posted - 2014.03.08 23:44:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:
keep telling yourself you're better than us because you can lock 5 districts. legand was a bum.
Big words, lets see how many attacks you launch on Tuesday.
Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
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Aardicus
G0DS AM0NG MEN
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.03.09 00:29:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that.
Well, fitting a Blaster or Rail Turret alongside 3 complex hvy reppers is impossible, even with all Fitting skills maxed. The best I can achieve is @512 hp/s while having a standard 80GJ Blaster and a nitro, leaving the second high slot open.
Anyway, your overall point is valid though. One on one nothing but proto av has a chance of overcoming the regen, and even then it's situational. ie proto forge guns on rooftops, etc.
Isn't this the Gallente way though, medium armor, heavy regen, and speed? I call this build the 'Gallente_Heavy', at least until the actuall Gallente heavy is released.
Anything with high alpa will end that build though, scouts with REs, jihad jeeps, any large rail turret, large missile turrets. I have been one shotted from a tower perched proto breach forge who nailed the weak spot.
The more things change the more they stay the same in relation to rooftop forge gunners. Two can sweep the map clear of most vehicles. The difference now is that I can actually see them to counter snipe with a large rail turret. |
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OLDSPICE.
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.09 02:29:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that. You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis Ive used it Swarms dont do ****, or forges
Then your bad I can kill tanks just fine how about you stop standing in front of tanks heard that helps AV needs a tiny buff so the std/adv av can actually do stuff but other then that its fine stop crying get good
just call me communist space king noob
MAG vet raven ftw
Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
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Posted - 2014.03.09 03:38:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:ads alt wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Atiim wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:
A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time
At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun. You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that. You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis Ive used it Swarms dont do ****, or forges Then your bad I can kill tanks just fine how about you stop standing in front of tanks heard that helps AV needs a tiny buff so the std/adv av can actually do stuff but other then that its fine stop crying get good
Lol scrub, im a tanker so stfu
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