No, No and No

Frankly i dont miss swarms that i cant see and follow me around x amount of corners while having full coverage of the map and are able to deal 3k+ dmg

Or useless gunlogis and there hardeners

Or the ability to not be able to see less than 50m

Or AV nades which cost 20k but can deal 2k+ dmg and take out your 1mil+ tank but thats fine but now that my tank can be 70k and take out your 100k protosuit its not fine

Or lolenforcers

Or lolmissiles

Or much of anything tbh from 1.0 onwards to the last day of 1.6

Seriously, it's not fun now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEwRozQen_0&feature=youtu.be&t=16m1s (The legend345, one of the best tankers this game has ever seen)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5FyD5Nolwo&list=UUjT4MFpWY3rtZ3jbOA536zA (Nod Keras, another good tanker (but an even more amazing sniper))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KNSdD8PYgY(Physcotic Shooter, not only good in tanks but he also does ADS' too)

That is all.

wtf? thelegend sucks
he abuses the nitros back and forth **** and when you basically beat him he has nitros every 10 seconds

I'm not sure why people asked for a vehicle rebalance. But they got it, and everybody suffered for it.

That's the thing, I don't recall anybody asking for an entire rebalance, but I guess that is just CCP not paying attention to the player base.

Did you even watch the video? If you did and you STILL say this, then you clearly never tried tanking in PC pre-1.7.

I do... the very first day of 1.7 I specced into shield tanks, I noticed they were extremely easy to fit, I had to make no sacrifices to keep my Ion cannon, I still had all proto modules. I called in my tank, drove to an objective, killed a few guys to the point where they brought out swarms... it was then when I realized that if one of my hardeners were on my tank was invincible to swarms ("balanced" and "fun"), I thought this was going to get patched come the next update... but considering it's been 3 months I've given up on the fact that CCP will do the right thing.

Anyway, back to the story, after that first game I squaded up with some corp mates and ran a few games that had to be the most boring games I've had in awhile compared to 1.6 it was not a challenge to survive, if I really wanted to I could just camp in one place for the entire game with little to no threat (again "fun"), tanking used to be a challenge, an extremely frustrating challenge, but a heck of a lot more fun than the crap we have now.

My point is, sure AV was god mode in 1.6, but thats what made it fun.

I wish they put the steering controls back to the way they were. As of now you can go right to an degree but some times its wants to go the other direction any one else have this problem and has any one told CCP this ? This alone has caused me to lose several tanks when trying to get out of some where or out maneuver an rail tank.

Swarms effectiveness to shields - 70%

With hardener on dont even bother also each missile hits on its own so it wont break the regen

On the other foot AV was god mode and didnt make it fun, now AV is a challenge and that makes it fun

The Difference:

It was still theoretically (and literally) possible to survive on your own before 1.6 while driving a tank.

Now? It's theoretically impossible to destroy an HAV with 3 Complex Armor Reppers while using AV.

But that's cool. I've got a Particle Accelerator reserved for the "special" tankers.

I went up against a guy with two reps and only one hardner. His hardner was down, got him on fire and close to death with the assault foge, when I reloaded he was full health again and had activated his hardner :(

It's not really HAVs this build, it's active modules in general being OP as hell

A tank with 3 complex reppers is easily killed since whatever hits it does full damage all the time

At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun.

You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that.

OK, you keep telling yourself that.

You have obv never used it and if im bad what does that make you? the most useless & pathetic tanker to ever exist in the universe let alone on the planet called earth who gets killed by a small militia turret on a daily basis

i havent done PC since a couple months after its release, so correct me if i am wrong...


PC tends to magnify the effectiveness of tactics based around the most effective fittings.

Given the financial stakes for those involved, along with the increased rewards for participation, the PC meta has more than earned its reputation as the spiritual home of proto-gaming.

ergo, PC is a highly focused micro meta of what can best be identified as the most effective tactics, fittings and practices.

This is as it should be, if you had a "end game" mode where the worst practices, tactics, fittings and least effective loadouts were used with such frequency as to be common, then you might well be correct is saying said game was broken?



If you only gather data from a handful of fitting loadouts, you are not gaining a greater picture of the whole. It is no coincidence that CCP have just had their Scout and Heavy events and now expect to release the full line up of scout and heavy suits.

Data is more useful than opinion, though if analysed with skepticism, opinion can be a good measure of enjoyability(in this case).

PC will matter as regards balance, when the parity between suit and weapon, of various origin, is more inline with the balance inherent to the EvE combat system.





just realised that your response may well have been nothing more than a pithy retort aimed at the claims of ability ;P
and not the assertion that pc is broken..

bleh Im gonna post any ways :P

Ive used it
Swarms dont do ****, or forges

Well, we're going to see a lot more of PC in just 3 days since PC is being changed = (a LOT more reason to hate tanks)
and since AV is getting nerfed in 1.8 tanks are going to to be even harder to take out.
Cant hate that, can I?

Not on their own

Get 2 together, swarms are best for it 6 volleys will mince it since they will do max dmg possible, go against proto hurts like hell

Thats why 2 rep and a hardener is your best option so you can tank the dmg for alot longer

Right.

From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario:

You begin firing and killing hostile infantry

Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.

You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.

Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day.

#worldoftanksisthatway
#avmasterrce

Right.

From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario:

You begin firing and killing hostile infantry

Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.

You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.

Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day.

#worldoftanksisthatway
#avmasterrce

All you need is a particle cannon to camp the redline to prevent that...

And if they do then 1 hardner won't do the job, My old fit used to be 2 reps and 1 hardner but after everyone got the partcle cannon and damage mods I figured that it wasn't really working so I altered it a bit and now I have 2 hardners and 1 rep now..

Right.

From what Charlotte O'Dell has told me, trying to kill Infantry in PC will result in the following scenario:

You begin firing and killing hostile infantry

Enemy FC orders every HAV available to kill you.

You are raped by every Particle Cannon, Ion Cannon, and XT-1 on the map.

Anyways, I'll still be standing near your redline with a Particle Cannon just waiting for you to make my day.

#worldoftanksisthatway
#avmasterrce

keep telling yourself you're better than us because you can lock 5 districts. legand was a bum.

At 543.75HP/s you can easily repair the damage from any Infantry AV weapon that isn't a Wyrikomi Breach Forge Gun.

You must be a pretty bad tanker if you didn't realize that.