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Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 184	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:04:00 - [1] - Quote So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7928	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:08:00 - [2] - Quote I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
8213 Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 1661	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:08:00 - [3] - Quote That's why the SCR is used so much in PC.... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! Fish in a bucket! Darken's Testament SKIPPY
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1560	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:10:00 - [4] - Quote ScRubs Drop it like its hat.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7934	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:11:00 - [5] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: ScRubs ScRubbler Rifle! "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10498	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:13:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: ScRubs ScRubbler Rifle! Shut up ScRub! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2068	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:16:00 - [7] - Quote meh i'll be going commando, then i'll have a weapon for both types, and a damage increase to boot, of course i'm expecting the laser rifle to be better then the SCR this time around.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 165	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:16:00 - [8] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. I also personally feel all weapons are being over nerfed, I liked the shorter TTK somewhat, but could agree it needed a change.... I don't however feel the efficiency values needed messing with. The efficiency values weren't changed, the scram always did +20% shield -20% armour Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United 95	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:16:00 - [9] - Quote The problem i think comes from the fact that the skill for heat will disapear, which makes the weapon less usefull, as a prof 5 user i can tell you that its hard to handle when you shoot someone and he fall because he uses shield then someone buffed with armor comes and shred you. So this weapon has a kind of unpredictability that is not as much noticable from other weapons. I personnaly will continue to use it notheless, lower ttk will enable some level of strategy and not die on the spot 1 vs 1 amored tank, like having a side arm good for armor... Quebec United CFO
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 1463	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:19:00 - [10] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. I also personally feel all weapons are being over nerfed, I liked the shorter TTK somewhat, but could agree it needed a change.... I don't however feel the efficiency values needed messing with. No, it'll still have its power, but you won't be able to wreck everyone's face as much. I, for one, welcome these changes to specialize each weapon and suit.

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3308	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:21:00 - [11] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Faulty Logic. ScR has the highest damage values, so small percentages will still have a larger effect. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 2928	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:22:00 - [12] - Quote I'm not complaining :/ Templar BPO(275Mil) EVE Pilot I feed off your tears
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 9815	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:26:00 - [13] - Quote I'm not complaining, I actually feel like the SCR got off too easy since the AR was nerfed harder than the SCR. Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7934	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:28:00 - [14] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: ScRubs ScRubbler Rifle! Shut up ScRub! Get on my level, your ScRubbler Rifle is no match for mine, I have the high ground! "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10507	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:29:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: ScRubs ScRubbler Rifle! Shut up ScRub! Get on my level, your ScRubbler Rifle is no match for mine, I have the high ground! ScRub, my ScRubler rifle has ScRubbing prof 5. #GOML You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Knight Soiaire Fatal Absolution 4954	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:32:00 - [16] - Quote I've never once said after dieing to an SCR. "Boy, if they removed 7 Damage from that weapon it would not be OP!" I've always said, that if they changed the weapon so it becomes less easy to spam and less reliable in CQC then it'd be balanced. SCR needs to be Medium - Long Range. And before anyone says the SCR would then be getting beaten by the RR at that range, the SCR would have the ability to beat any trade with an RR user with its charge shot. ISK Milkshakes for all (Except the Pubbies)
Rusty Shallows 1065	Posted - 2014.03.06 20:33:00 - [17] - Quote calisk galern wrote: meh i'll be going commando, then i'll have a weapon for both types, and a damage increase to boot, of course i'm expecting the laser rifle to be better then the SCR this time around. Bold prediction, if you end up using both on the same Frame please let us know how it goes. If CCP reintroduced the old beam-cooking mechanic then I would agree one hundred percent. If the Devs do it right the Scrambler Rifle will still have the better short-term DPS and the Laser Rifle a steady long-term damage. Which is what it sounds like they are doing for these mid to mid-long range weapons. Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2546	Posted - 2014.03.06 21:08:00 - [18] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: I've never once said after dieing to an SCR. "Boy, if they removed 7 Damage from that weapon it would not be OP!" I've always said, that if they changed the weapon so it becomes less easy to spam and less reliable in CQC then it'd be balanced. SCR needs to be Medium - Long Range. And before anyone says the SCR would then be getting beaten by the RR at that range, the SCR would have the ability to beat any trade with an RR user with its charge shot. Yes, losing to a ScR in close range is quite annoying. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:42:00 - [19] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Faulty Logic. ScR has the highest damage values, so small percentages will still have a larger effect. 1% of 100 (1) is smaller than 50% of 4 (2) so your statement isn't always the case. It is all dependant on the actual percentages themselves and the original number that is being affected, really my mistake was not actually listing the % and stat changes and differences in damages themselves but I thought you'd have at least looked at them beforehand. It's irrelevant anyway, what was your point about SCR by the way ? Or were you just here to be pedantic ?
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7269	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:48:00 - [20] - Quote Complaining because we already do 120% against shield and eat them for breakfast without proficiency. Shields are never stacked too highly either, even on the sentinel ck.0 it won't be that much. In essence it just feels like the proficiency skill is now a waste. Would much rather have proficiency get changed to something completely non-damage related and perhaps more weapon specific. CPM1 Candidacy Thread

medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 438	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:50:00 - [21] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I don't remember complaining about my scrambler rifle slated to have its damage reduced... (medomai deletes his 100 page draft of bitching about how his weapon of choice is going to be nerfed.) Yep, I don't know what your talking about... [o.o] Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Rinzler XVIII Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 189	Posted - 2014.03.06 23:59:00 - [22] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Complaining because we already do 120% against shield and eat them for breakfast without proficiency. Shields are never stacked too highly either, even on the sentinel ck.0 it won't be that much. In essence it just feels like the proficiency skill is now a waste. Would much rather have proficiency get changed to something completely non-damage related and perhaps more weapon specific. Go back and read the OP because you clearly didn't understand what you just read judging from the 1st sentence you used in your comment. And no you aren't getting another heat reduction skill or a boost to armor damage skill .. they would just make the weapon OP and increase the gap between new players and vets
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7939	Posted - 2014.03.07 00:00:00 - [23] - Quote Joel II X wrote: True Adamance wrote: I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. I also personally feel all weapons are being over nerfed, I liked the shorter TTK somewhat, but could agree it needed a change.... I don't however feel the efficiency values needed messing with. No, it'll still have its power, but you won't be able to wreck everyone's face as much. I, for one, welcome these changes to specialize each weapon and suit. Hmmmmm.... not going to lie I could DPS down suits pretty quickly but the ScR was never and OP weapon just good at what it was designed to do. "War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine." - Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1687	Posted - 2014.03.14 08:44:00 - [24] - Quote Tried a scout with ScR yesterday for couple of matches. It is the amarr shotgun. So damn powerful to charge shot when you got good scan radius and dampened profile. Drop it like its hat.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 1881	Posted - 2014.03.14 08:49:00 - [25] - Quote I hope they changed the fire mechanic too. After all, we all know TCs (turbo-controllers) are still going to be a problem post-1.8 if nothing is done. Every time I see one being used, all I can think is "Whoa. Get good." (No, not the Scrambler Rifle. I do mean the TC. Anyone who has rolled with me knows that I used the ScR too. I'm just not bad enough to use a TC with it.) "Go ahead and dual tank. My Commando dual ganks." -Kasote Denzara I'm waiting for my G-I suit. It's what I want.
Cruor Abominare horizons' edge 96	Posted - 2014.03.14 08:56:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. I also personally feel all weapons are being over nerfed, I liked the shorter TTK somewhat, but could agree it needed a change.... I don't however feel the efficiency values needed messing with. heh tech 2 Minnie ships have a 90% resist to em the primary smart dmg type. I used to fly barrage wolfs and giggle when some one in a crucified or crusader would try to engage. Csb and all that, you can't expect to be a one size fits all killing machine. Most of dust is in for a rude awakening as meta enabling mechanics crop up. There will some day be a time when your skilling and fits will be dependant on what some neckbeard officer works out as the best counter to the current meta.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2190	Posted - 2014.03.14 08:59:00 - [27] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I don't feel that I should be restricted to one specific type of suit I can kill. Any well fit Amarr Ship with Pulse Lasers can kill any other ship,...... now it will and I have covered myself admitting it will need testing.....but looking at numbers the ScR will still be over shadowed by RR at range, CR at mid range, and doesn't have the 1v1 stopping power it used to....... Will definitely require a change to my playstyle involving more charged shots to punch through shield and armour.....but I'll adjust. I'm simply concerned weapons will now have insane TTK against their tanking type, and **** poor against the others.....but again time will tell. I also personally feel all weapons are being over nerfed, I liked the shorter TTK somewhat, but could agree it needed a change.... I don't however feel the efficiency values needed messing with. Thats how its mea t to be, you are amarr you use laser tech, therefore you are strong against shields and weak to explosives. The thing is TTK for you won't be ridiculously short against shields as you aren't getting a shield damage buff. This game is meant to be built for diversity, you are gonna come across those who you are weak to and those who are weak to you. If you don't like the extra level of gameplay then sit in a tank and stop whining. As a Mass Driver user Shields are a big thing against me, the slugs just won't push through, especially in .8. I am going to have to rely upon either a shield based weapon OR a team mate to eliminate the majority of shields on high value targets, because my Mass Driver won't be able to do it. That said in an emergency I can brute force it and crack the shields just in time to reload. BUT if they wield my weakness and I wield their resistance they should win 98% of the time, that's the damn point. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5081	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:04:00 - [28] - Quote 8213 wrote: That's why the SCR is used so much in PC.... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! I'll tell you right now that the scrambler rifle isn't used so much in PC due to the threat of LAG, Not because of it's effectiveness, if it weren't for the random lag in PC you'd see it far more often. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 727	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:05:00 - [29] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. Honestly I believe the SCR/ASCR will be be outright under the best rifles in 1.8, I never had any problems to bring down armor based suits with it. The RR my still be more popular as it is more easy to use and a little bit more flexible, but anyone who excel with the CR will do more than fine with the SCR and the ASCR will give give the best Range/DPS ratio of all Rifles...
Izlare Lenix FREE AGENTS LP 206	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:09:00 - [30] - Quote The scrambler might get the smallest nerf, but it is also hit the hardest by the damage mod nerf. Losing 18% damage from two complex damage mods hurts the ScR more than any other weapon due to the overheat mechanic. Yes, the other weapons will have to chew through more ammo, as will the ScR, but the ScR will have to be pushed even closer to overheating just to kill someone. That is not true from the other light weapons. And an hmg could easily kill five or more people before it overheats. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8222	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:15:00 - [31] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. Ah what you don't understand is what is actually being nerfed on the ScR. We now are required to put X more shots into a target to down them, given that we over heat at X rounds, being say 15..... as such we are now distinctly more prone to over heats. Now this is more of an indirect nerf and will require some play style changes from us ScR users but it should be possible to over come and work on the same level we used to. " ..- -.- --. I wish I remembered morse code so I wasn't typing random letters" - Malleus Malificorum
8213 BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1736	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:21:00 - [32] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: 8213 wrote: That's why the SCR is used so much in PC.... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! I'll tell you right now that the scrambler rifle isn't used so much in PC due to the threat of LAG, Not because of it's effectiveness, if it weren't for the random lag in PC you'd see it far more often. I promise you wouldn't, as it's not practical for the PC arena. You can't be bringing a weapon that has the potential for a heat lock-up into that kind of competition. 1-2 SCRs on a team is all you need and should use because they can't go diving onto a point of 12 players and expect to live long enough to make a play at a hack. But yes, lag makes that weapon useless in a hurry. Unlike all the other spray-and-pray weapons in the game, people forget thta tSCR isn't just a hold down R1 and throw out 400DPS without any marksman skill what-so-ever... but nonSCR users just never understand that gun but btch about it all the time... ...also, buff the TacAR back to its former glory, CCP! I ain't got time for dat sht!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1031	Posted - 2014.03.14 09:38:00 - [33] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. They are moaning because they are so used to the insanely high burst DPS scrubler rifle, and now it might not be so OP. The charged shot scrambler rifle has needed a rate of fire reduction since for ever. Remember the TAC rifle? The scrambler rifle has the same damage per shot, similar range, a huge increase on magazine size. Amazing ammo effeciency (Better than almost any other weapon) and a charge shot mechanic. All while keeping its OP rate of fire. Its only downside is the heat mechanic which is largely mitigated on an Amarr assault suit. It has been plagued with bugs that let the overheat mechanic be completely nullified in the past as certainly needs a nerf. The TAC AR needs a small rate of fire buff, say 450-500 rpm give or take, and a modest magazine increase. The scrambler just needs a rate of fire decrease to the same level. 450-500 rpm I think. I dont mind anything about that rifle, other than it can be absolutely spam fired like a machine gun and it DOES DO very similar / more burst DPS than pretty much any other infantry weapon in the game. It actually makes the shotgun look like a stupid choice in close quarters as it probably does way more dps, and you still have the ability to fire at range. (In all honesty most rifles are better than the shotgun for 50%+ of CQC work and certainly ALL have the added benefit of extra range but I guess that is a separate issue) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB ZERG EVENT 1MILLION CLONES! LETS DO THIS
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3936	Posted - 2014.03.14 11:08:00 - [34] - Quote Enters thread and sees how many people hate the scrambler This is just amusing, some people's blind fury for the scrambler. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1033	Posted - 2014.03.14 11:13:00 - [35] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Enters thread and sees how many people hate the scrambler This is just amusing, some people's blind fury for the scrambler. Not at all. I propose rational thought out changes. The rate of fire is clearly a source of its hatred. Are you telling me that you do not think the scrambler should have a reduced rate of fire? (I'm talking a reasonable one, not nerfed into the ground like other weapons have been) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB ZERG EVENT 1MILLION CLONES! LETS DO THIS
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 1691	Posted - 2014.03.14 11:31:00 - [36] - Quote Might also spec into the sCRub. Since it has a better damage profile. Got ScRub to ScRub proficiency 4. Drop it like its hat.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 732	Posted - 2014.03.14 11:44:00 - [37] - Quote 8213 wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: 8213 wrote: That's why the SCR is used so much in PC.... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! I'll tell you right now that the scrambler rifle isn't used so much in PC due to the threat of LAG, Not because of it's effectiveness, if it weren't for the random lag in PC you'd see it far more often. I promise you wouldn't, as it's not practical for the PC arena. You can't be bringing a weapon that has the potential for a heat lock-up into that kind of competition. 1-2 SCRs on a team is all you need and should use because they can't go diving onto a point of 12 players and expect to live long enough to make a play at a hack. But yes, lag makes that weapon useless in a hurry. Unlike all the other spray-and-pray weapons in the game, people forget thta tSCR isn't just a hold down R1 and throw out 400DPS without any marksman skill what-so-ever... but nonSCR users just never understand that gun but b*tch about it all the time... ...also, buff the TacAR back to its former glory, CCP! Hmm the only drawback I can see here is the inability to switch to a sidearm. On any suit the SCR is able to dish out roughly 18 rounds thats what the Tac and the CR can as well (54 bullets in clip with 3 bullets per burst = 18 burts) So on the Tac or the CR you have to reload whereas on the SCR you have to wait for the weapon Cool down. If you don't overheat the weapon does not lock at all so you could also switch to a sidearm its more a thing of timing. On OP 5 the cool down will take 4.5 secs the Tac Reloads in 3s and the CR in 2.6. So this is a slight disadvantage. Overall I would say currently CR and SCR are pretty close together. In 1.8 the SCR will get a boost by beeing less nerfed, so it will be overall better that the CR even though it is a little more tricky to use. With the Amarr Assault you can further widen the gap in favor of the SCR. Not to mention the ASCR that will clearly have the best DPS / Range ratio
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2278	Posted - 2014.03.14 12:11:00 - [38] - Quote Tell me wth am I suppose to do with a gun that does 80% to armor? Have you seen an unmodified CRD-9 lately? I think not..... Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 222	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:35:00 - [39] - Quote People complain about short TTK... and now they complain about a slight increase in TTK Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3457	Posted - 2014.03.14 14:40:00 - [40] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Faulty Logic. ScR has the highest damage values, so small percentages will still have a larger effect. another one No.

HYENAKILLER X Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 666	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:05:00 - [41] - Quote Scramblers blow up on you constantly. That hurts you when that happens. Assault scrambler rifles are the hardest weapon to use in this game. Why even touch them? Its purely a skilled weapon. everyone should only use the scrambler rifle diring the event. We'll have it done in an hour. Im not from new eden. I dont need back up, political power or support. I, unlike you dont fear nuetral territory.
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 224	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:06:00 - [42] - Quote I prefer my carthum in PC, you never know if your target is still there with that lag Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
noob cavman The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 786	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:21:00 - [43] - Quote My love of my scr came from the fact it fire's as fast I can push the button. Its the only decent semi-automatic we have left. The tac ar has that horrible pause between shots that bugs the hell out of me. I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy
Proto Annihilator Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 122	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:24:00 - [44] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. line up five guys and kick them in the nuts repeatedly. The guy you kicked only once is still gonna complain.
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 219	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:32:00 - [45] - Quote They're also overlooking the fact that any medium or light suit that's not heavily armor tanking will still be in the ScR's kill threshold Same with snipers and shield tanking bamboo x in 1.8 (Boundless Heavy Machine Gun) you bamboo x (Ion Pistol) you bamboo x (Forge Gun) you
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2660	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:34:00 - [46] - Quote Just to be clear, I think the ScR does far to well outside its role and on a Amarr Assault suit, the thing becomes near impossible to fight unless you are using a CR or RR. It eats through heavy suits. That being said, the weapon is getting a big nerf(though it will still out perform a AR) However, the nerf doesn't come from the dmg itself being dropped, it's the change to dmg mods and prof skill that will effect it most. These changes, I think, will balance the weapon...then nerf it just pass that. It will rip through shields, but then what? You have to eat through 450-1000+ armour. It wouldn't be so bad if it was only armour tankers to worry about, almost every suit has a plate or two. So even once you get through the Caldari Assault/Logis 500 or shields, then you have to fight another 400+ armour. My solution? Shield damaging weaponry get 4 percent bonus in prof instead of 3. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1145	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:35:00 - [47] - Quote What needs more nerf is that Stupid Spray and pray master CR.... The ROF is just plain stupid...
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 412	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:36:00 - [48] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5702	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:40:00 - [49] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE I never really considered Scouts as OP back then. Then again, I was a masshole during those times. AV > HAV > INF > AV \| Not: HAV > AV GëÑ INF [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 412	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:41:00 - [50] - Quote Atiim wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE I never really considered Scouts as OP back then. Then again, I was a masshole during those times. That Strafe speed.......Omg I was almost 100% untouchable back then...It was nasty. >.>

Tectonic Fusion 1245	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:42:00 - [51] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Complaining because we already do 120% against shield and eat them for breakfast without proficiency. Shields are never stacked too highly either, even on the sentinel ck.0 it won't be that much. In essence it just feels like the proficiency skill is now a waste. Would much rather have proficiency get changed to something completely non-damage related and perhaps more weapon specific. This^ I want a proficiency respec and a damage mod respec and only get prof in sidearm and weapons like the rail rifle/assault rifle. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Temias Mercurial ANGEL FLEET 9	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:43:00 - [52] - Quote As a SCR user... when have other users started complaining? The damage is quite sufficient for the new TTK. I see nothing to complain about.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2140	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:47:00 - [53] - Quote SCR will never be the most viable weapon in pc for one reason people travel in squads in pc, they stick close, have logi's etc. SCR is a single target precision based weapon, it just doesn't fit that scenario very well. it's range isn't long enough to be a long distance harasment weapon, though the laser rifle will be ^^.
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1338	Posted - 2014.03.14 15:52:00 - [54] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. As someone who doesn't use the ScR as often as a specialist but knows enough about it's design... It's a really worrisome weapon when it comes to nerfing. It's primary use is for high alpha damage. If you take away it's high alpha damage or simply nerf it to be not that much more compared to the other rifles, it will pretty much become useless. It overheats, can cause damage to the user, can only one shot, and is an extreme on the damage spectrum(at least for rifles). If it received low enough of a nerf, you would be better off switching with the GLU/Tactical Duvolle and that's a poster boy for being UP. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3939	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:01:00 - [55] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Enters thread and sees how many people hate the scrambler This is just amusing, some people's blind fury for the scrambler. Not at all. I propose rational thought out changes. The rate of fire is clearly a source of its hatred. Are you telling me that you do not think the scrambler should have a reduced rate of fire? (I'm talking a reasonable one, not nerfed into the ground like other weapons have been) Well I can fire it pretty fast, but nowhere near its current ROF. I know people complain about turbo controllers, but the ScR will overheat if you spam it. I just use the good old DS3. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2664	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:09:00 - [56] - Quote I hate it, but I can't ignore balance. Everybody should get to use what they want, and it should be effective at its job and just as good as weapons in its same class. That said, I really think the ScR is working to well outside of its role and the nerf across the board was needed for all rifles. It just so happens that the ScR(along with the AR) is getting the worst end of the stick since it does the least amount of dmg to armour and I think they are going to fall behind(but still ahead of the AR) the other rifles. The AScR will still compete, just not as well as it was. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3940	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:14:00 - [57] - Quote Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3419	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:23:00 - [58] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull ** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. Thats what the cloak is for. The moment I see a Scrambler in the kill feed, I'm just gonna hide. My Shield scout isn't made for that crap Nothing says "FK YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3942	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:33:00 - [59] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. Thats what the cloak is for. The moment I see a Scrambler in the kill feed, I'm just gonna hide. My Shield scout isn't made for that crap That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2282	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:42:00 - [60] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. Thats what the cloak is for. The moment I see a Scrambler in the kill feed, I'm just gonna hide. My Shield scout isn't made for that crap That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. Cloaked Amarr Viziam Scout Squad anyone? oooh and we can have a cool name like C.A.V.S.S. Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3421	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:55:00 - [61] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. Ha. I get to use the new gif in the dev blog. MRW a Scrambler pops up in the kill feed. Now I just need to caption it to say "NOPE" at the top Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2283	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:57:00 - [62] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. Ha. I get to use the new gif in the dev blog. MRW a Scrambler pops up in the kill feed. Now I just need to caption it to say "NOPE" at the top AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 THATS SOOO BAD ASSS YOOOOOOO Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 491	Posted - 2014.03.14 16:59:00 - [63] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. ScR overheats very quickly when not on an assault suit, no other rifle (aside from the amarrian laser rifle) has this problem. Miss a shot now, die. You can cause ~600 damage before overheat now on a non-bonused suit. How much damage can you do before you are rendered 100% helpless? ScR is by far the hardest of the rifles to fit by a LONG way. ScR and TAR are the only true skill-shot rifles. "We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3422	Posted - 2014.03.14 17:05:00 - [64] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. Ha. I get to use the new gif in the dev blog. MRW a Scrambler pops up in the kill feed. Now I just need to caption it to say "NOPE" at the top AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 THATS SOOO BAD ASSS YOOOOOOO If you look at the pics, the cloak is gonna rule. Imma be cloaked for as long as I possibly can in all honesty. Note though: You have to have over 50% charge to cloak again. This means that the Basic cloak will require 15s to be used again from empty The ADV will require 15, but the PROTO will require 20s. But with 80s of cloak from the proto, I doubt you will be seeing you go below half charge a lot. That's 40s of cloak to burn through. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Nocturnal Soul Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2284	Posted - 2014.03.14 17:09:00 - [65] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. Ha. I get to use the new gif in the dev blog. MRW a Scrambler pops up in the kill feed. Now I just need to caption it to say "NOPE" at the top AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 THATS SOOO BAD ASSS YOOOOOOO If you look at the pics, the cloak is gonna rule. Imma be cloaked for as long as I possibly can in all honesty. Note though: You have to have over 50% charge to cloak again. This means that the Basic cloak will require 15s to be used again from empty The ADV will require 15, but the PROTO will require 20s. But with 80s of cloak from the proto, I doubt you will be seeing you go below half charge a lot. That's 40s of cloak to burn through. Hmmm I may have to upgrade to an adv lvl then Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Echo 1991 WarRavens League of Infamy 117	Posted - 2014.03.14 17:15:00 - [66] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. ScR overheats very quickly when not on an assault suit, no other rifle (aside from the amarrian laser rifle) has this problem. Miss a shot now, die. You can cause ~600 damage before overheat now on a non-bonused suit. How much damage can you do before you are rendered 100% helpless? ScR is by far the hardest of the rifles to fit by a LONG way. ScR and TAR are the only true skill-shot rifles. Rail rifle is only a little bit easier to fit and if you know that the gun you are using overheats quickly try not to be so trigger happy. The nerf that the ScR received is really not that bad, its still gonna have the highest alpha damage, its still gonna one shot a lot of suits be glad that it hasnt been nerfed a lot more.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 412	Posted - 2014.03.14 20:53:00 - [67] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. Thats what the cloak is for. The moment I see a Scrambler in the kill feed, I'm just gonna hide. My Shield scout isn't made for that crap That's kind of amusing to think that once a scout sees a "Viziam Scrambler Rifle" in the kill feed that they freak out a little. I don't freak out, I just know that people who use it are predictable and will damage mod it because they can't get a kill with it on base stats/prof.V. Now that, is amusing.
Lightning xVx R 0 N 1 N 413	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:12:00 - [68] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Lightning xVx wrote: Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. I cant be BUT happy about 1.8, because all the bull **** damage mods they would put on there and 1 hit Scouts with it. It's about GOD DAMN time we go back to 1.2-1.3 era when my KDR sky rocketed because of Scouts being OP. Wooo I can't wait. I'M GONNA HAVE ME SOME FUN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGitN3vC0xE Dude, I will still OHK every single scout in the game even with a Viziam WITHOUT damage mods. You're not safe. And I'm gonna punch you in your mouth with my shotgun. Welcome to the new world, God save you if it is right that he should do so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdhQWkTl1PQ
lAssassinl Zer0 Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2014.03.14 21:17:00 - [69] - Quote Rinzler XVIII wrote: So your weapons damage has been reduced ... boohoo It has had the SMALLEST damage reduction (%) out of all the rifles .. how on earth you can complain about that is beyond me ..; Oh so your proficiency has been changed so you will find it harder to kill armor suit s.. well .. you get 120% v shields and eat them for breakfast .. why should you be super strong v shields AND super strong v armor ? I've just read some nonsense from True Adamance complaining about having the 2nd longest range behind the RR as well as a post from Aisha saying how weak the SCR is going to be in 1.8 ... Honestly it's ridiculous .. how can you complain after getting the smallest nerf ? I haven't complained about the RR being nerfed I just feared it'd be overnerfed and the SCR would be left alone but I'm glad the SCR has been nerfed as well as the other rifles and i'm interested to see what the changes are like in 1.8. Overheat. And, "eat shield" LIKE EVERY WEAPONS IN THIS GAME. Less damage means it's going to be rough to kill someone witohut overheating. Anyway we're not really complaining about the weapon it self but the fact proficiency is USELESS on it. While others weapon (Anti armor) will become OP. Especially CR who have no penality. (5% on shield...is NOTHING.)


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