I kind of agree although the only way a scout will be able to share enemy locations using passive scans is over comms because I believe they changed it so only active scans are shared with the squad

So excited for my stealth & speed hack, cloak & ambush Min scout!

Nope. As of right now, passive scans are shared with squad. I confirmed it with my squad last night. There is no doubt they can see the red dots my suit picks up. The only difference is that I think while the red dots more slowly fade on my screen, I think they more likely flicker off on theirs. So its kind of seems like the broadcasting scout can 'see more' if they are moving around and may accidentally blind their team to dots that appear then disappear.

I also run a passive scan suit and according to my squad, they only see my scan results if they are within scan range of me - did you find this the case, or was your squad able to passively see the enemies you saw, even when your squadmates were across the map?

I've had similar results. Though I'm the only one passive scanning so it's hard to get true confirmation. I need someone else who can passively scan to really confirm.

Just you wait....

(R)amps - range amplifiers.

Because of the small but significant boost to logi scans and scout base and cal/gal skill bonuses, the teams that can 'rampscan' the best will have a huge advantage.

The name of the game for 1.8 will be who can scan what and with what in order to apply the ambush.

If enemy scouts can detect you while remaining undetected and you get no warning, then they can ambush (or lead the ambush) against you and your especially vulnerable heavies.

I'm thinking attacks now will proceed shortly after a scan, so that in the same way an orbital 'sound' implies impending doom, if you get scanned you will be much more likely to come under attack.

If you can have the good fortune to hide from STD scanners, then you may not be aware of the scout 50m away showing his squad where you are.

I AM REALLY EXCITED. Because all of the different suit weights and bonuses means really interesting mixes can be deployed to really amplify the different suit advantages.

I also run a passive scan suit and according to my squad, they only see my scan results if they are within scan range of me - did you find this the case, or was your squad able to passively see the enemies you saw, even when your squadmates were across the map?

I also run a passive scan suit and according to my squad, they only see my scan results if they are within scan range of me - did you find this the case, or was your squad able to passively see the enemies you saw, even when your squadmates were across the map?

I'd assumed OP meant you lead your squad to prey by visually following them rather than using some sort of shared passive scan. I'd be really surprised if passive scan was shared with the squad - I've not heard of this mechanic working this way. That said I've been soloing all the time for the last few months so wouldn't have noticed it myself....

What passive scan range did you all have? Because base scan range is only 10m or 16m for light suit, which is bugger all really, so the ability to determine whether or not someone else's p-scan is picking up reds on your own tacnet is kind of inaccurate.

Unless you're running p-scans at 50m+ in an L5 Gallente scout suit or something? Curious

Anyway yeah generally, looking forward to more diversity in 1.8, esp. increase in p-scan ranges - it's a mechanic that can really make for nice ambushes

That was the point of the OP. Sorry if it wasn't clear. I was refering to Ramps or range amplifiers as extending your base scan range. Scout suits are getting a buff to base scan range from 16m to 20m while logis are going from 10m to 15m. This means that when you stack ramps you can get logi and scout suits to passively scan quite a bit (and share this info with the tacnet).

Dont you mean it will become which ever team has more LAVs with onboard scanners whiping up and down the map?

having a scan focused game will be a nice change up from brick V brick engagements.

I already do this. Why is it a problem now?

Those are active scanners, and they won't work the same way in 1.8. They will take snapshots instead of lighting everything up as you go.

I have my doubts that CCP would take into acount both hand and vehical scanners. Also dosent the vehical scanner pulsate scan? as in it dose multi snapshot scannes?

Hey is 54m worth a slot over 37m in close quarters? Solo of course

We should get multi-racial scout squads going.

Gallente scout will be the broad precision, high range scout, to detect the bulk of the enemy team.
Caldari scout will be the sharp precision, lower range scout, mainly to detect flanking scouts.
Minmatar scout will be the hacker and designated heavy assassin.
Amarr scout will be the bait.