These changes were known to be inbound and similar points were made in the past, but often these threads were met with "Oh, the details aren't final yet."

There were definitely threads about many of the same issues that are coming up now. They have been ignored. This has all been seen before - 1.2 plate stats, RR/CR stats, and a handful of other things. In each case, CCP have 'asked for feedback' and then completely ignored it.

Nice of you to welcome people to the discussion 4 months ago, though. It'd be nice if anyone outside CCP and the CPM actually knew that it was seriously being discussed.

I don't see the point in a silent majority; these changes were known to be inbound in various and desire to change things in various forms and to be systematic sweeping publicly for a while just no hard numbers or details.

And you guys are NOW just complaining?

Welcome to discussion 4 months ago. I'll be happy to relay that we may have over nuked AV ability again to CCP though and get changes pushed through though.

2) The Gallente AR needed to be nerfed harder than the SCR, especially the already-useless variants.

I didn't understand this either and I'm pretty much planning on dumping the Assault Rifle in 1.8

Now that the damage mods have been nerfed, which was very well needed but now they are somewhat useless.

So what else is there to put in highslots for a armor tanker like me?

I guess I'm going over to Dual tanking now. :/



Moral of the story: We need more highslot modules CCP you've got everything in the lows.

This guy can't be serious.Caldari Assault is pretty much hard mode now as EVERYTHING is meant to rip shields a new one.

I didn't understand this either and I'm pretty much planning on dumping the Assault Rifle in 1.8

This guy can't be serious.Caldari Assault is pretty much hard mode now as EVERYTHING is meant to rip shields a new one.

Minmatar assault is hard mode as everything kills shields and it has lol armor hp

Bonus to damage against shields: Plasma Cannon, Scrambler Pistol, Assault Rifle, Shotgun, Scrambler Rifle, Laser Rifle, Ion Pistol
A total of seven weapons
Bonus to damage against armor: Rail Rifle, Swarm Launcher, Submachine Gun, Sniper Rifle, Magsec SMG, Heavy Machine Gun, Forge Gun, Flaylock Pistol, Combat Rifle, Bolt Pistol, Mass Driver
A total of eleven weapons

Plus a grenade that doesn't kill you through your entire tank.

sarcasm Yep, everything does tear shields a new one. Like those rifles they added in 1.7, totally wreck shields, huh? Those damage profiles just rip shields to pieces.sarcasm off

Did you even play during Chromosome?

Did you know that people actively avoided armour tanking even heavy suits, because armour was so worthless?

Scan Range extenders! Get that 10m scan range up to a nifty 12m!

I'd like to see reactive plates moved to the high slot.

What kills shields?

here are all the counter shield weapons.

Plasma rifle? It used to before it become obsolete.
Shotgun- looool
Plasma Cannon- what is a plasma cannon
Breach assault rifle - nope
Burst Assault Rifle - nope
Tac Assault Rifle - not in 1.8
Laser rifle- maybe in 1.8, no numbers yet
Scrambler Pistol and rifle (and assault) are the only weapons that are good that are anti shield.
Ion Pistol- what a joke

That's 4 out of all 11 weapons that are supposed to be good against shields that are actually good.

Meanwhile in anti armor land you've got
Combat Rifle [2]
Rail Rifle [2]
Mass Drivers [3]
Flalock is garbage
Sniper Rifles [3]
Sniping Forgeguns [3]
SMGs [3]

Did I miss any weapons ?
Seems to me all but one of anti armor infantry weapons are in tip top shape that's 15/16 weapons being good.

When's the last time you used an Ion Pistol? Let me answer for you.Never.

Your opinions are from hence forward,irrelevant.

A couple Possibilities for high slot modules from the top of my head.

External damping field- Reduces explosive damage to shields by a percentage. Doesn't affect armor. Stack-able with penalty. (personal favorite)

Shield Stabilizer- Adds shield resistance to Flux damage at cost of shield regen delay. Stack-able with increasing regen delay penalty ('m thinking Caldari would benefit from this.)

Damage accelerator? (projectile accelerator doesn't work for all weapon types)- Decreases fall off damage. Doesn't increase overall effective range. Non-Stacking to prevent OP.

Tac-net extender (not sure about this one)- Allows for passive scans to be seen by team mates on mini-map. (Another twist on scanning mods that adds an element to gameplay)

Threat Triangulation module- Shows direction of nearest enemy fire. Not talking about damage being taken. Has no range indication. Could be shown as a red arrow on mini-map.

Tried to keep them all with current High module themes. Shields, scan, and damage.

Scan Range extenders! Get that 10m scan range up to a nifty 12m!

lool, irrelevant. Coming from a LOTIS member. How cute.