90% of players are in agreement that the heavy/light weapon combo is broken and OP. Even without other heavy weapons (Currently), its a niche role, and supposed to be a niche role.
Those that say otherwise are the scrubs that run Heavy frame with light weapons. (Leave that **** to the commando suits)

Especially with the current stats of the RR coupled with its range and effectiveness in close quarters.

CCP says that its our sandbox, and that we can play whatever way we want, fair enough.

I want to put an HMG on my scout. Period. I don't care if that's the ONLY thing that I can fit on it. That's what I want, that's how I want to play.

CCP says I can't do that. It would realistically be totally OP, a fast moving ,small hit box, naturally dampened suit with a freaking minigun strapped around my shoulder jumping over things and melting your face while moving faster than your AA can lock on.
Where is my sandbox now?
Heavies are getting resistances to damage types, as well as having all these light/side arm weapon damage reductions, and damage mod reductions, while the heavy weapons are remaining untouched.

You are still going to see heavies with RR all the time because they have resistances to damage, higher HP pools, and now they will have a mag sec SMG that is basically an assault rifle as a side arm just in case anyone manages to get close enough to actually do damage to them.

As a scout, this really pisses me off.

As an assault this REALLY pisses me off because I don't even have the speed or damps of a scout.

As a heavy this also pisses me off because even using a heavy the way it is intended is still almost useless unless I want to simply sit on a point all game and defend it, which is a pretty useless idea considering that there aren't really many points in this game that have adequate cover for a slow moving heavy against long range light weapons.

As a commando this really pisses me off because there is no use to my suit, my slot layout is terrible, and come 1.8 the damage buff I'm going to get will still be UP compared to the sentinel suits damage resistances and ability to have a light weapon, plus how much less EHP I have in comparison, and how slow I move.

As a logi, this can go either way. If I decide to stick to a rep tool and hang off a heavies ass like a turd caught on a piece of hair, I'm laughing because I have a tank strapped to the end of my rep tool and I can laugh all the way to the bank farming WP.
If I decide that uplinks, scans, and hives are more important than having an umbilical cord on a heavy suit, I'm pretty much boned because I won't be able to kill anything to clear the area for a revive, or get into a suitable area to drop uplinks, hives, and don't even get me started on the snap shot scanners with their ridiculous scan angles, and cool down time.


I'll be switching to a sentinel suit with a prototype RR ASAP and scrubbing it up with the rest of you. Goodbye sandbox, hello "Fall in line and be allowed to play with the other kids".

really?? heavies can use a giant gun but cannt fit a simple light weapon that even a scout can handle?

Were did you pull 90% from?

The Assault and Commando will be the suits that can maximize the DPS of light weapons though, so the Heavy/Light Weapon (which I'm not a fan of) won't be as effective as it currently is. I'm still waiting to see if the HMG DPS gets tuned down in the first couple hot-fixes.

I believe the heavy suit should offer a more stable platform from which to fire light weapons. It should offer less scope sway and reduced recoil. It makes a lot more sense than saying they couldn't operate light weapons. How would you justify being able to use a side arm? They are lighter than rifles. If you can't kill some scrub in a heavy suit you should quit playing FPS games. Your whole life would become less stressful.

I believe the heavy suit should offer a more stable platform from which to fire light weapons. It should offer less scope sway and reduced recoil. It makes a lot more sense than saying they couldn't operate light weapons. How would you justify being able to use a side arm? They are lighter than rifles. If you can't kill some scrub in a heavy suit you should quit playing FPS games. Your whole life would become less stressful.

Have you even played eve?

really?? heavies can use a giant gun but cannt fit a simple light weapon that even a scout can handle?? shut the hell up with that crap there is no logic within the OPs head it must be full of rocks or something

dont waste our time with this dumbass suggestion when you lured us into this thread with a false title

How about this. Heavies have limited mobility and a wide chest span by nature due the heavy amounts of armor. Have you ever shot a RL long gun? A Fatty shouldn't be able to get his fat arms in a proper position across his fat body to ADS properly and snipe someone at a 100 meters with a RR!!!

Give a heavy a RR with only hip fire and I'd be fine with that.

really?? heavies can use a giant gun but cannt fit a simple light weapon that even a scout can handle?? shut the hell up with that crap there is no logic within the OPs head it must be full of rocks or something

dont waste our time with this dumbass suggestion when you lured us into this thread with a false title

Why would I? Its not f2p, plus it sounds like a snore. Lastly point click games are not for me.

90% of players are in agreement that the heavy/light weapon combo is broken and OP. Even without other heavy weapons (Currently), its a niche role, and supposed to be a niche role.
Those that say otherwise are the scrubs that run Heavy frame with light weapons. (Leave that **** to the commando suits)

Stop talking for me. I have my own opinion and it's the opposite of yours.


Unfortunately, I'm starting to feel afraid that CCP might actually listen to idiots like you.

Edit:
Okay, I just read the post by the "Have you played EVE?" guy.

I guess I'll be leaving this game for another six months. I can't take the insanity of this community anymore.
Holy ******* fagballs.
Let's see if it's dead by then.

Then you don't understand how balance w
Heavys are made to use heavy weapons,
they're not supposed to be more effective with light weapons than medium suits.

battleship = heavy suits.
Cruisers = medium suits
Frigates = light suits

you can use a frigate or cruiser weapon on the battleship but it doesn't get bonuses to it that cruisers and frigates inherently get for their tier of weaponry.
the battleship is designed to use the large turrets, if you want the tracking speed of small turrets you sacrifice range, dps, and effectiveness against other battleships but you gain the ability to fight off smaller ships.
A battleship can't fit a frigates turret and use it as effectively as the frigate because of the bonuses to fall off, rate of fire, and damage any given frigate might have for these smaller turrets.

Heavys should be allowed to use light weapons with drawbacks compared to smaller suits the light weapons are made for.
Otherwise there's no point in using anything but a heavy suit.

I could give a flyingfuck about your spaceships. The problem is probably you are a capsuleer and you can't cope with FPS mechanics. Why should I or my community have to adopt a lesser game to accommodate you?

90% of players are in agreement that the heavy/light weapon combo is broken and OP. Even without other heavy weapons (Currently), its a niche role, and supposed to be a niche role.
Those that say otherwise are the scrubs that run Heavy frame with light weapons. (Leave that **** to the commando suits)

Especially with the current stats of the RR coupled with its range and effectiveness in close quarters.

CCP says that its our sandbox, and that we can play whatever way we want, fair enough.

I want to put an HMG on my scout. Period. I don't care if that's the ONLY thing that I can fit on it. That's what I want, that's how I want to play.

CCP says I can't do that. It would realistically be totally OP, a fast moving ,small hit box, naturally dampened suit with a freaking minigun strapped around my shoulder jumping over things and melting your face while moving faster than your AA can lock on.
Where is my sandbox now?
Heavies are getting resistances to damage types, as well as having all these light/side arm weapon damage reductions, and damage mod reductions, while the heavy weapons are remaining untouched.

You are still going to see heavies with RR all the time because they have resistances to damage, higher HP pools, and now they will have a mag sec SMG that is basically an assault rifle as a side arm just in case anyone manages to get close enough to actually do damage to them.

As a scout, this really pisses me off.

As an assault this REALLY pisses me off because I don't even have the speed or damps of a scout.

As a heavy this also pisses me off because even using a heavy the way it is intended is still almost useless unless I want to simply sit on a point all game and defend it, which is a pretty useless idea considering that there aren't really many points in this game that have adequate cover for a slow moving heavy against long range light weapons.

As a commando this really pisses me off because there is no use to my suit, my slot layout is terrible, and come 1.8 the damage buff I'm going to get will still be UP compared to the sentinel suits damage resistances and ability to have a light weapon, plus how much less EHP I have in comparison, and how slow I move.

As a logi, this can go either way. If I decide to stick to a rep tool and hang off a heavies ass like a turd caught on a piece of hair, I'm laughing because I have a tank strapped to the end of my rep tool and I can laugh all the way to the bank farming WP.
If I decide that uplinks, scans, and hives are more important than having an umbilical cord on a heavy suit, I'm pretty much boned because I won't be able to kill anything to clear the area for a revive, or get into a suitable area to drop uplinks, hives, and don't even get me started on the snap shot scanners with their ridiculous scan angles, and cool down time.


I'll be switching to a sentinel suit with a prototype RR ASAP and scrubbing it up with the rest of you. Goodbye sandbox, hello "Fall in line and be allowed to play with the other kids".

You should be able to put a HMG on any suit and it should come with a heavy speed penalty and resource consumption. If the suit has the CPU/PG then there should be no restrictions on what can be fit. Not trolling, I am 100% serious. I would love to see an assault suit with a HMG, and I think that some players would make it work.

really?? heavies can use a giant gun but cannt fit a simple light weapon that even a scout can handle?? shut the hell up with that crap there is no logic within the OPs head it must be full of rocks or something

dont waste our time with this dumbass suggestion when you lured us into this thread with a false title

CCP says that its our sandbox, and that we can play whatever way we want, fair enough.

I want to put an HMG on my scout. Period. I don't care if that's the ONLY thing that I can fit on it. That's what I want, that's how I want to play.

You can, so long as your scout is based off the heavy frame.

Welcome to sandbox.

Lol 90% is just too large

There's a good number of people who don't agree with heavies+rifles being a bad combination. You're probably gonna hear from them sooner than you think...Well unless the 1.8 Dev Blog made them focus their attention elsewhere.