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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:20:00 -
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http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/03/expanding-the-arsenal-with-uprising-1.8/
to beat IBN
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:21:00 -
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Oh **** its for realzies! |
COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:22:00 -
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Ahhhhh! Oh my gawd!!
Edit: Wow...the Magsec will one day get a silencer?
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
Roll with the punches instead of QQing
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:24:00 -
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F 8ckun Sweet......
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
530
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:27:00 -
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lol Dat damage mod nerf! I never used em so no big deal for me.
Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 6/10
Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
920
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:28:00 -
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Ouch.. that CR nerf.. but to be expected with all the QQ SMG's? Really??
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:29:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Ouch.. that CR nerf.. but to be expected with all the QQ SMG's? Really?? Increased ttk yo... |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
647
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:29:00 -
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Quote:We also made a change to the number of spare grenades you can carry. All grenades now have their maximum ammo reduced by one. This generally means you now carry three grenades instead of two. ....???? what?
If you can read this, it means you are reading.
Unless you are skimming
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:32:00 -
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i dont think the mass driver needs a buff with overall damage coming down. but on the whole very happy with these changings kinda looking forword to 1.8 now, gunna save up for that iron pistol
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
920
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:32:00 -
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ads alt wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:Ouch.. that CR nerf.. but to be expected with all the QQ SMG's? Really?? Increased ttk yo...
I know I know. Personally I thought the proficiency changes would be enough - a rail / projectile will be far less effective to shields so gives an incentive to shield tankers.
But, what ho, I'll see how it runs in practice
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
385
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:32:00 -
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looks like its gonna be back the MD spamming for new FOTM and tbh these new pistols are a bit of a worry. i mean do us AR uses really need more weapons that can out range us? its geting beyond a joke now lol although i guess i'm gonna have some fun with my templar LR
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:34:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i dont think the mass driver needs a buff with overall damage coming down. but on the whole very happy with these changings kinda looking forword to 1.8 now, gunna save up for that iron pistol Hmmm, what pat of the pistol is iron? |
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CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
5537
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:35:00 -
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Quote:We also made a change to the number of spare grenades you can carry. All grenades now have their maximum ammo reduced by one. This generally means you now carry three grenades instead of two. ....???? what?
Should be the other way around. You saw nothing.
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steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:38:00 -
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ads alt wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:i dont think the mass driver needs a buff with overall damage coming down. but on the whole very happy with these changings kinda looking forword to 1.8 now, gunna save up for that iron pistol Hmmm, what pat of the pistol is iron?
stuiped auto correct. :P
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Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
917
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:38:00 -
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Wow, only two grenades instead of 3 - that means each one will need 12 nanite clusters to restock. So the new nerfed hives will only restore 4 grenades max per hive, instead of 9... |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1720
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:44:00 -
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Lolscrambler... -_-
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:46:00 -
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Now all we need is a dev post in the respec discussion thread, or refund discussion thread |
KGB Sleep
811
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:49:00 -
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Still no release date?
Because beer, that's why.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
569
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:49:00 -
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I would hope the changes to grenades only apply to locus grenades because let's be honest... just 2 AV grenades will be silly with their current damage.
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Pvt Numnutz
R 0 N 1 N
853
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:51:00 -
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My god, this.....this is awesome. Very exciting!!! The changes to proficiency are really gonna make a difference to the way people play and think. I for one am very happy I won't get slaughtered by the combat rifle in my caldari suit. Similarly my rail rifle is gonna have a hard time chewing through shields.
This update is huge CCP, great work! Balancing to the weapons, 5 new suits, 3 new weapons, geez Im gonna need more skill points..... |
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nicholas73
Glitched Connection
53
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:52:00 -
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Are we getting a basic assault Mass Driver? I don't think its there in the market but I see the stats for it in the Dev Blog.
Yay, for the dev blog.
Dust to Dust
Ashes to Ashes
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
1720
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:53:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:I would hope the changes to grenades only apply to locus grenades because let's be honest... just 2 AV grenades will be silly with their current damage. Yep, flux too, i need 3 of them to fight equipment spam.
nicholas73 wrote:Are we getting a basic assault Mass Driver? I don't think its there in the market but I see the stats for it in the Dev Blog.
Yay, for the dev blog. I'm finally happy, there are also std assault version of RR and SCR. Still waiting for std version of assault CR.
1.8 it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes...
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DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:53:00 -
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nicholas73 wrote:Are we getting a basic assault Mass Driver? I don't think its there in the market but I see the stats for it in the Dev Blog.
Yay, for the dev blog. Also a std assault scrabler rifle |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:56:00 -
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i am looking forword to the old of days of having constantly update your fittings to counter what ever is popular on that given month, this was a very attractive part of close beta when TTK was high and a poor fitting ment to rofol stomped
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
804
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Posted - 2014.03.05 10:59:00 -
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WOOOOO!!!! Backup birthday wish granted!
I worry about the assault rifle losing some DPS. I think with it's range so short, it should have the highest DPS of all the rifles. The rail rifle, with the longest range, should have the lowest DPS.
Best PVE idea I've seen.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
921
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:04:00 -
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I also notice no Tactical / Burst SMG as mentioned in the Features and Ideas Discussion thread
A mistake to the original?
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
527
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:08:00 -
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So the Gallente AR is completely dead now, awesome. Why the nerf on the TAC AR too? Leave that thing alone!
Essentially this has just told us that we will pretty much never die by anything other than remote explosives or tanks. Tanks didn't get a nerf and they're a massive problem with TTK.
I honestly thought I would be super excited by this news, but as usual it's an over nerf it from orbit kind of thing. |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:11:00 -
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Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. |
Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
513
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:11:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Dovallis Martan JenusKoll wrote:Quote:We also made a change to the number of spare grenades you can carry. All grenades now have their maximum ammo reduced by one. This generally means you now carry three grenades instead of two. ....???? what? It's the other way around. It says two instead of three (or one instead of two for militia)
What about the contact grenade? Still 1?
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
388
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:12:00 -
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yeah when it comes to AV nades we need 3 still. hell even need 4 lol also i missed the proficency change notes does anyone have links?
Rolling with the punches
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
507
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:13:00 -
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Waiting to see more changes, specially for vehicles.
Right now, AV has been nerfed again, with AV nades reduced from 3 to 2 and damage modifiers cut in half. It might be a good idea if vehicles have also been adjusted. |
Orenji Jiji
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:14:00 -
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New build is afoot! Yeah!
Then I read the blog. The title should be: CCP plays caldari.
What we get: Master Race [S]idarm sniper gun to beat silly amarrs and [S]idearm SMG superior to the rusty one in every way. Good game! Rail rifle all over again.
Most OP rifle of 1.7 is getting a moderate nerf (I'm looking at you, RR), while CR and SMG are both getting nerfed at the same time... So another build of railtards on the hills and rooftops putting me down as soon as I render.
I'm not even mad, CCP. Just sad. I will play the **** out of 1.8 anyway. That's life.
And now things that make me happy: Gallente hand cannon! Whoop whoop!
SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
528
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:16:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons.
Thirty five percent less damage.
At least.
How is this positive? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3096
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:17:00 -
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Holy crap thats a lot of nerfs.
Serious CCP?
I mean I agree the damage needed to be nerfed, but...
Well, I uh.... certainly won't be running damage mods for basically ANYTHING anymore, I can assure you of that... there is no benefit whatsoever compared to more shields.. |
Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:19:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:I would hope the changes to grenades only apply to locus grenades because let's be honest... just 2 AV grenades will be silly with their current damage.
Right...... ^ (agreed)
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
206
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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I like the damage mod change but have to wonder if the complex will be used much.
Is 1% damage increase really worth the isk and cpu/pg difference between the two levels? I also have to wonder if the stacking penalty makes it useless to run more than one (I for one am totally fine with less stacking being necessary).
This will also create an extra ISK sink since no longer will running a MLT or STD assault rifle with 2-3 damage mods be a viable choice. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3098
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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Yo, could we get some numbers on the laser rifle?
Like to know just what kind of effective range we can be expecting. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons. Thirty five percent less damage. At least. How is this positive?
im sorry your twitch shooter has vanished and you have to think about your fittings and what your doing again.
the rest of us partying over the TTK fix will try and keep the noise down
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
480
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:24:00 -
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Oh man, 1.8 Heavies are going to be so scary when the patch hits.
Reduced TTK, can still use Light Weapons, Sentinel bonuses giving additional resistances to all explosives and certain weapon types for each race.
Liking the Grenade change when taken in context with the changes to Nanohives so grenade spam should hopefully be reigned in a bit. The TTK change needed to happen and I'm glad we're seeing it in the way its currently being presented. Hopefully we'll see an increase in the number of Scouts on the field as a result of not having their faces completely melted when someone so much as sneezes on them.
Those rifle changes are SERIOUS though, current STD weapon damage is going to be PRO in the next patch. I honestly can't wait to see how that plays out, especially combined with the (completely justified) change to damage mods.
I do hope, with the change to damage mods, that something is in the works for buffing the STD/ADV Swarm Launchers, all Plasma Cannons, and MLT/STD Forge Guns (STD tier Assault variant perhaps?). Vehicles are resilient enough as it is without giving them an additional leg up with the overarching weapon changes.
Now if only someone would come around to buffing Shield Extenders ...
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
301
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:28:00 -
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The nerfs Imo are good.
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
389
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:30:00 -
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http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties
to get a better accuracy on the complex damage mods i use this. the damage nerf is going to be crazy. wonder if ccp will allow us to start picking up rocks off the floor to throw? they'd probs do more damage
Rolling with the punches
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Kaughst
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
218
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i dont think the mass driver needs a buff with overall damage coming down. but on the whole very happy with these changings kinda looking forword to 1.8 now, gunna save up for that iron pistol
I do not know the exact math but the dam. simply looks like it is making up for the dam. lost to the prof. skill re balancing. That being said it means what I knew in 1.7, that the MD did not have enough damage to compete with the other light weapons. If anything the damage mods reduce the spam with the weapon since I can not longer fit 3+ 10% damage mods on my Assault MD. Than again...This benefits the base MD, survivability and even if it is making up for any damage lost means it has a better chance 1v1. I look forward to this....but I am still limited in my ammo capacity that CCP does not want to recognize is a obvious problem to it.
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation
4492
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:40:00 -
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Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR?
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Beld Errmon
0uter.Heaven
1416
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:44:00 -
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love everything in that dev blog, even if weapons I love are getting nerfed, looking forward to living a bit longer in gun fights.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
791
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:45:00 -
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I dont like the mass driver damage... They will be OP again !
BALACSES ??? MY PRECIOUS HAS BALACSES ???
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RINON114
B.S.A.A. General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR? Don't forget the TAC!!!
Also, I've just realised that the mass driver is going to be super insanely OP again. GG CCP, thanks for that. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
405
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:51:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons. Thirty five percent less damage. At least. How is this positive?
Thats most positive in every way. That means that the 4 personal deathrays finally getting nerfed.
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
192
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:53:00 -
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I see there is a Standard Assault Scrambler Rifle now... that's new.
Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
272
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:54:00 -
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It seems that the return of the Shotgun is at hand...
My only complaint is the loss of the RoF skill, but I think the shield bonus will be enough to keep me happy. At least I finally have a legitimate reason to get Prof 5.
For those that are saying the MD damage reduction isn't needed with the TTK increase, believe me, the Prof and DM changes will likely be enough to keep the MD close to the same TTK as it has now. Which should put it on similar ground as all the other weapons. Currently, even Proto MDs rely heavily on DMs and Proficiency to deal any significant damage, and both of those are getting nerfed. |
VonSpliff
TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:00:00 -
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Sweet dev blog. But I feel like i read all that before. Must been hard to put together.
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
381
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:04:00 -
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*spits out imaginary coffee all over monitor* |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
3100
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR?
I agree. Remove them completely. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1823
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:06:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:Sweet dev blog. But I feel like i read all that before. Must been hard to put together.
YOU HAVE.
Considering they have already pretty much said everything that will be in 1.8 at one point or another what did you expect. I know, you wanted yes or no on respecs not the actual patch notes.
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George Moros
Balkan Express Squad
314
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:07:00 -
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Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
1020
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:08:00 -
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i was hoping that there would be info on the heavy suits and its only a weapons blog. oh well its better than nothing i guess, now i'll have to see which sidearm i would prefer to carry with my heavy
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WarRavens League of Infamy
69
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:10:00 -
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Why lower the grenade count? Like really? Also no one is gonna use complex dmg mods anymore, enhanced will be better to fit and be more cost effective. Other than the Grenade reduction its looking good. |
ads alt
DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance
32
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:17:00 -
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George Moros wrote:Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents. The hmg still has its op dps in 1.8, its gunna be the fotn3m |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
1611
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:21:00 -
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ads alt wrote:George Moros wrote:Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents. The hmg still has its op dps in 1.8, its gunna be the fotn3m
dmg nerf + resistance bonuses = oooober logi buff (with a mini logi nom nom nom)
This means expect whirling death machines and long range logis everywhere
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
391
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:25:00 -
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with the change in bonus to DM's it'd be nice if they dropped fitign reqs slightly. that way we could fit slightly better armor meaning bettere TTK figures.
Rolling with the punches
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Alex Kaidou
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:33:00 -
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Am i the only one who has a problem with carrying less grenades ? becuase its no longer one grenade one kill(for most medium suits) and now you take one grenade fro me ....
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