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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:13:00 -
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Waiting to see more changes, specially for vehicles.
Right now, AV has been nerfed again, with AV nades reduced from 3 to 2 and damage modifiers cut in half. It might be a good idea if vehicles have also been adjusted. |
Orenji Jiji
364
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:14:00 -
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New build is afoot! Yeah!
Then I read the blog. The title should be: CCP plays caldari.
What we get: Master Race [S]idarm sniper gun to beat silly amarrs and [S]idearm SMG superior to the rusty one in every way. Good game! Rail rifle all over again.
Most OP rifle of 1.7 is getting a moderate nerf (I'm looking at you, RR), while CR and SMG are both getting nerfed at the same time... So another build of railtards on the hills and rooftops putting me down as soon as I render.
I'm not even mad, CCP. Just sad. I will play the **** out of 1.8 anyway. That's life.
And now things that make me happy: Gallente hand cannon! Whoop whoop!
SL dumbfire, DS bumpercars, Scout beast-mode. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time.. to die.
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RINON114
B.S.A.A.
General Tso's Alliance
528
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:16:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant.
How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons.
Thirty five percent less damage.
At least.
How is this positive? |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3096
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:17:00 -
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Holy crap thats a lot of nerfs.
Serious CCP?
I mean I agree the damage needed to be nerfed, but...
Well, I uh.... certainly won't be running damage mods for basically ANYTHING anymore, I can assure you of that... there is no benefit whatsoever compared to more shields.. |
Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
299
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:19:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:I would hope the changes to grenades only apply to locus grenades because let's be honest... just 2 AV grenades will be silly with their current damage.
Right...... ^ (agreed)
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
206
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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I like the damage mod change but have to wonder if the complex will be used much.
Is 1% damage increase really worth the isk and cpu/pg difference between the two levels? I also have to wonder if the stacking penalty makes it useless to run more than one (I for one am totally fine with less stacking being necessary).
This will also create an extra ISK sink since no longer will running a MLT or STD assault rifle with 2-3 damage mods be a viable choice. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3098
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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Yo, could we get some numbers on the laser rifle?
Like to know just what kind of effective range we can be expecting. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
2428
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:21:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons. Thirty five percent less damage. At least. How is this positive?
im sorry your twitch shooter has vanished and you have to think about your fittings and what your doing again.
the rest of us partying over the TTK fix will try and keep the noise down
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Foundation Seldon
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
480
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:24:00 -
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Oh man, 1.8 Heavies are going to be so scary when the patch hits.
Reduced TTK, can still use Light Weapons, Sentinel bonuses giving additional resistances to all explosives and certain weapon types for each race.
Liking the Grenade change when taken in context with the changes to Nanohives so grenade spam should hopefully be reigned in a bit. The TTK change needed to happen and I'm glad we're seeing it in the way its currently being presented. Hopefully we'll see an increase in the number of Scouts on the field as a result of not having their faces completely melted when someone so much as sneezes on them.
Those rifle changes are SERIOUS though, current STD weapon damage is going to be PRO in the next patch. I honestly can't wait to see how that plays out, especially combined with the (completely justified) change to damage mods.
I do hope, with the change to damage mods, that something is in the works for buffing the STD/ADV Swarm Launchers, all Plasma Cannons, and MLT/STD Forge Guns (STD tier Assault variant perhaps?). Vehicles are resilient enough as it is without giving them an additional leg up with the overarching weapon changes.
Now if only someone would come around to buffing Shield Extenders ...
Saga v. Methana Balance
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
301
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:28:00 -
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The nerfs Imo are good.
Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute
Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
389
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:30:00 -
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http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties
to get a better accuracy on the complex damage mods i use this. the damage nerf is going to be crazy. wonder if ccp will allow us to start picking up rocks off the floor to throw? they'd probs do more damage
Rolling with the punches
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Kaughst
Nyain San
Renegade Alliance
218
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:32:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i dont think the mass driver needs a buff with overall damage coming down. but on the whole very happy with these changings kinda looking forword to 1.8 now, gunna save up for that iron pistol
I do not know the exact math but the dam. simply looks like it is making up for the dam. lost to the prof. skill re balancing. That being said it means what I knew in 1.7, that the MD did not have enough damage to compete with the other light weapons. If anything the damage mods reduce the spam with the weapon since I can not longer fit 3+ 10% damage mods on my Assault MD. Than again...This benefits the base MD, survivability and even if it is making up for any damage lost means it has a better chance 1v1. I look forward to this....but I am still limited in my ammo capacity that CCP does not want to recognize is a obvious problem to it.
"That is not how you say my name."
"How do you say your name?"
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DeadlyAztec11
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
4492
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:40:00 -
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Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR?
Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat
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Beld Errmon
0uter.Heaven
1416
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:44:00 -
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love everything in that dev blog, even if weapons I love are getting nerfed, looking forward to living a bit longer in gun fights.
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A
Proficiency V.
791
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:45:00 -
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I dont like the mass driver damage...
They will be OP again !
BALACSES ??? MY PRECIOUS HAS BALACSES ???
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RINON114
B.S.A.A.
General Tso's Alliance
530
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:49:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR?
Don't forget the TAC!!!
Also, I've just realised that the mass driver is going to be super insanely OP again. GG CCP, thanks for that. |
Beeeees
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
405
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:51:00 -
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RINON114 wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:Changes look fairly positive overall. Thanks for the update Remnant. How do they look positive? We're talking about every weapon receiving an average of more than 10% damage reduction (which would be fine alone) but if you stack 3 damage mods like most people these days you end up with more than 25% less damage, combining that with proficiency nerf you're talking more than 35% less damage output at least on most weapons. Thirty five percent less damage. At least. How is this positive?
Thats most positive in every way.
That means that the 4 personal deathrays finally getting nerfed.
TOLD514
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Martyr Saboteur
Amarrtyrs
192
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:53:00 -
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I see there is a Standard Assault Scrambler Rifle now... that's new.
Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
272
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Posted - 2014.03.05 11:54:00 -
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It seems that the return of the Shotgun is at hand...
My only complaint is the loss of the RoF skill, but I think the shield bonus will be enough to keep me happy. At least I finally have a legitimate reason to get Prof 5.
For those that are saying the MD damage reduction isn't needed with the TTK increase, believe me, the Prof and DM changes will likely be enough to keep the MD close to the same TTK as it has now. Which should put it on similar ground as all the other weapons. Currently, even Proto MDs rely heavily on DMs and Proficiency to deal any significant damage, and both of those are getting nerfed. |
VonSpliff
TeamPlayers
Negative-Feedback
73
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:00:00 -
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Sweet dev blog. But I feel like i read all that before. Must been hard to put together.
"It never got weird enough for me." Dr. T
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Akdhar Saif
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
381
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:04:00 -
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*spits out imaginary coffee all over monitor* |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3100
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Could you not reduce the damage of the Breach AR and Burst AR?
I agree. Remove them completely. |
The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1823
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:06:00 -
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VonSpliff wrote:Sweet dev blog. But I feel like i read all that before. Must been hard to put together.
YOU HAVE.
Considering they have already pretty much said everything that will be in 1.8 at one point or another what did you expect. I know, you wanted yes or no on respecs not the actual patch notes.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
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George Moros
Balkan Express Squad
314
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:07:00 -
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Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents.
Pulvereus ergo queritor.
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Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals
Top Men.
1020
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:08:00 -
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i was hoping that there would be info on the heavy suits and its only a weapons blog. oh well its better than nothing i guess, now i'll have to see which sidearm i would prefer to carry with my heavy 
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Echo 1991
WarRavens
League of Infamy
69
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:10:00 -
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Why lower the grenade count? Like really? Also no one is gonna use complex dmg mods anymore, enhanced will be better to fit and be more cost effective. Other than the Grenade reduction its looking good. |
ads alt
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
32
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:17:00 -
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George Moros wrote:Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents.
The hmg still has its op dps in 1.8, its gunna be the fotn3m |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1611
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:21:00 -
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ads alt wrote:George Moros wrote:Although I was one of the advocates of damage mod bonus spread being too big across tiers, the 3-4-5% bonus spread really seems excessive. Investing huge amounts to CPU/PG to get a 1% bonus to damage (not to even take the stacking penalty into consideration) is pointless. People will stop using damage mods altogether (except snipers, who are getting severely nerfed in 1.8).
Also, one of the weapons that will be least affected with the upcoming changes is the HMG. It will still be (almost) as powerful as it is now. Add to that the increased survivability of new sentinels, and I fear that the HMG heavy will be the new FOTM and the source of many QQ threads.
Just my 2 cents. The hmg still has its op dps in 1.8, its gunna be the fotn3m
dmg nerf + resistance bonuses = oooober logi buff (with a mini logi nom nom nom)
This means expect whirling death machines and long range logis everywhere 
The answer is "ForgeGun"... doesnt matter what the question is...
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Nirwanda Vaughns
Death Firm.
391
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Posted - 2014.03.05 12:25:00 -
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with the change in bonus to DM's it'd be nice if they dropped fitign reqs slightly. that way we could fit slightly better armor meaning bettere TTK figures.
Rolling with the punches
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Alex Kaidou
Subsonic Synthesis
RISE of LEGION
18
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Posted - 2014.03.07 11:33:00 -
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Am i the only one who has a problem with carrying less grenades ? becuase its no longer one grenade one kill(for most medium suits) and now you take one grenade fro me ....
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