DUST Search - Why dont shields regen?

Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

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Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:

easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol

How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles?

the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol

What was nerfed EXACTLY? the numbers
And you could just soak up damage tilk they have no more ammo
And with 2 balistic controls in low slots, what do you fit in the mid slots.

if i remember correctly it was 2 hardeners in mids then large plates. then i think 3 x shield recharge rigs and then the lowslots was 4 shield relays i think (that increase recharge) its been a while since i used the drake
the onloy thing they changes was dropping all the resist boosts to 4% from 5%. the drake was either tank or gank really but most folk just tanked it out to run missions. you had to be very very dumb to lose a drake in a lv4 lol

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Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2143	Posted - 2014.03.04 15:50:00 - [31] - Quote Joel II X wrote: They do on vehicles if you're getting shot by rifles lol Also, equip 2 regulators, 1 or 2 energizer, and plenty of extenders and there's a good chance you'll never die. Thats still done with ticks, but you just don't notice when the values are so low. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2014.03.04 16:43:00 - [32] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Because this isn't EVE. Every time people ask why something in DUST doesn't reflect it's EVE counterpart all I can read is: "Why don't human beings handle like spaceships??" "Why doesn't a FPS play the exact same way a RTS game plays??" "Why.....THOUGHRT" you get the idea Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3319	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:47:00 - [33] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because this isn't EVE. looks at title in the upper left hand corner Okay, lets get some Titans in then. No.
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 12	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:49:00 - [34] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because this isn't EVE. looks at title in the upper left hand corner Okay, lets get some Titans in then. hav's, check.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:50:00 - [35] - Quote ads alt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: So ugh. Tell me then. If Shields were to regen quickly over time constantly, what would be the point in running armor? "More armor?" Nah. When armor can be depleted quickly and takes time to recover, it would make much more sense to run shields. Less eHP than the Armor tankers but pretty much more survivability since you can out regen them along with flank them since they're slow... Thats the point stupid....shuelds are supposed to regen faster. But if they had no delay, the eHP difference between shields and armor would be too little, shields would be superior. Changing this now would require rebalancing shields vs armor entirely. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 7123	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:52:00 - [36] - Quote Consider this: In EVE, your only cover is range, once you get close, either you jam that person, or he can shoot at you. There are other factors like turret tracking, but lets assume that isn't there. On the ground, you have cover. It fits better for an FPS. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. DUST514514
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1894	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:53:00 - [37] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Down here on the ground, Shields are regulated by Capacitors, these capacitors expend there energy in bursts to keep you safe.The capicators however are practically useless unitl they reach at least 70% charge, giving a burst regen. This differs from the Space craft which just use giant energy banks, the energy banks are fed by a generator which provides a constant current giving a passive regen. In terms of gameplay, if we name each cycle or recharge a tick, each tick lasts a second, now if you get shot during that second during passive regen you can loose all of it. If you get shot during burst regen you don't loose any of the regen from that tick, therefore burst regen is more beneficial. Thats BS If we had Capacitors it would mostly be on vehicles at least No no no... Capacitor in a RL sense. A component that stores an electrical charge. Once said Shield Recharge Capacitor Fills up enough, it discharges into your shields, increasing their strength until the computer in your DS says "STOP! Your gonna blow it up!" Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1894	Posted - 2014.03.04 17:54:00 - [38] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Consider this: In EVE, your only cover is range, once you get close, either you jam that person, or he can shoot at you. There are other factors like turret tracking, but lets assume that isn't there. On the ground, you have cover. It fits better for an FPS. Si. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 381	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:15:00 - [39] - Quote ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles? the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol Rolling with the punches
Roy Ventus Axis of Chaos 1228	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:19:00 - [40] - Quote ads alt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: So ugh. Tell me then. If Shields were to regen quickly over time constantly, what would be the point in running armor? "More armor?" Nah. When armor can be depleted quickly and takes time to recover, it would make much more sense to run shields. Less eHP than the Armor tankers but pretty much more survivability since you can out regen them along with flank them since they're slow... Thats the point stupid....shuelds are supposed to regen faster. Either I'm successfully being trolled or you're not making a light of damn sense. Shield regenerating overtime consistently, like armor repair, would upset the balance. There wouldn't be a reason to run armor. You rep constantly, have no mobility penalty, and could just stack repair mods on the low slots. Sure you can use damage mods with the armor tanking but you can already be outran and flanked, as many of us often are, but now your enemy will regenerate those hits in a matter of seconds? You know what that means? I can stack three damage mods(the highest amount for fitting efficiency) on my Gk.0, hit you with my weapon in CQC and you will have a better chance at escaping. And we haven't even gotten to the BS math. Getting 20 Shields per second consistently? PFFT. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 2289	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:19:00 - [41] - Quote IF shields would regen while under fire then armor reps would require a masssive buff. Like 3-4 times more HP repped per sec. But then we would be allmost on the same lvl like COD where you recover your health within 3 secs. I shall show you a world, a world which you cant imagine, a world full off butthurt n00bs at the other end of my gun
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 11950	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:21:00 - [42] - Quote So you just want shields to function exactly the same as armor? Videos / Fiction Closed Beta Vet; Incubus Pilot
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1895	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:22:00 - [43] - Quote Roy Ventus wrote: ads alt wrote: Roy Ventus wrote: So ugh. Tell me then. If Shields were to regen quickly over time constantly, what would be the point in running armor? "More armor?" Nah. When armor can be depleted quickly and takes time to recover, it would make much more sense to run shields. Less eHP than the Armor tankers but pretty much more survivability since you can out regen them along with flank them since they're slow... Thats the point stupid....shuelds are supposed to regen faster. Either I'm successfully being trolled or you're not making a light of damn sense. Shield regenerating overtime consistently, like armor repair, would upset the balance. There wouldn't be a reason to run armor. You rep constantly, have no mobility penalty, and could just stack repair mods on the low slots. Sure you can use damage mods with the armor tanking but you can already be outran and flanked, as many of us often are, but now your enemy will regenerate those hits in a matter of seconds? You know what that means? I can stack three damage mods(the highest amount for fitting efficiency) on my Gk.0, hit you with my weapon in CQC and you will have a better chance at escaping. And we haven't even gotten to the BS math. Getting 20 Shields per second consistently? PFFT. 40 come 1.8 30 on the heavy. If they aren't regen tanking at all. EDIT- On Caldari Suits. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 2806	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:22:00 - [44] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: So you just want shields to function exactly the same as armor? I want shields to function like my Raven does Intelligence is OP
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1895	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:24:00 - [45] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: So you just want shields to function exactly the same as armor? I want shields to function like my Raven does Obvious Troll is obvious. Get out now. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2718	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:31:00 - [46] - Quote Sorry. I misinterpreted the question. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2718	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:33:00 - [47] - Quote Sorry. I misinterpreted the question. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1225	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:52:00 - [48] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: So you just want shields to function exactly the same as armor? I support the suggestion of having shields regenerate at all times. However, there should be a longer recharge delay than what it is currently once shields are depleted. Shield recharge values might have to be tweaked if they are too strong while under fire. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
MrShooter01 Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 543	Posted - 2014.03.04 18:55:00 - [49] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles? the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol In other words, use infantry AV against a missile fitted gunnlogi with an active shield hardener and you will know exactly what fighting a drake/tengu is like
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 15	Posted - 2014.03.04 19:04:00 - [50] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles? the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol What was nerfed EXACTLY? the numbers And you could just soak up damage tilk they have no more ammo And with 2 balistic controls in low slots, what do you fit in the mid slots.

Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 384	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:26:00 - [51] - Quote ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles? the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol What was nerfed EXACTLY? the numbers And you could just soak up damage tilk they have no more ammo And with 2 balistic controls in low slots, what do you fit in the mid slots. if i remember correctly it was 2 hardeners in mids then large plates. then i think 3 x shield recharge rigs and then the lowslots was 4 shield relays i think (that increase recharge) its been a while since i used the drake the onloy thing they changes was dropping all the resist boosts to 4% from 5%. the drake was either tank or gank really but most folk just tanked it out to run missions. you had to be very very dumb to lose a drake in a lv4 lol Rolling with the punches
ads alt DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 16	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:28:00 - [52] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: ads alt wrote: Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: easy answer... so we dont get a land based Drake or tengu thats impossible to kill lol How WAS the drake impossible to kill exactly? Its damage resistance or missiles? the natural shield resists per level and then by balancing shield HP and regen. at peak shield regen you could get it upto about 600hps recharge. it spewed out pretty poor damage but you could just sit there soaking up damage in missions. in pvp it was pretty useless except as a bait fit. 1v1 you didn't do enough damag eto kill anything above a cruiser and they couldn't really do enough dps to kill you lol What was nerfed EXACTLY? the numbers And you could just soak up damage tilk they have no more ammo And with 2 balistic controls in low slots, what do you fit in the mid slots. if i remember correctly it was 2 hardeners in mids then large plates. then i think 3 x shield recharge rigs and then the lowslots was 4 shield relays i think (that increase recharge) its been a while since i used the drake the onloy thing they changes was dropping all the resist boosts to 4% from 5%. the drake was either tank or gank really but most folk just tanked it out to run missions. you had to be very very dumb to lose a drake in a lv4 lol Big whoop, 5% damage reduction lost....just run shueld extend rigs, 2 adaptive fields and extenders 1 or 2 and a booster
Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 385	Posted - 2014.03.04 21:43:00 - [53] - Quote nah the idea was to be totally passive. your passive regen was the equivalent of a booster Estemel XL shield booster with the correct setup the only active modules was the 2 hardeners and you just changed them to suit the NPCs so Kin/therm for cal/gal, em/therm for amarr and exp and invul field for agel/minny Rolling with the punches
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4789	Posted - 2014.03.05 00:21:00 - [54] - Quote Chunky Munkey wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Chunky Munkey wrote: Because this isn't EVE. looks at title in the upper left hand corner Okay, lets get some Titans in then. actually there's been talk of letting us fight on titans in future maps. come at me bro. Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)


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