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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7010
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:06:00 -
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Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones? If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones? If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work? How much does a clone cost? They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles? Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings? If not, than who is paying for our clones? Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc? Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7782
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:12:00 -
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This we must know.
Aero and I almost got into a fist fight over the questions.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7016
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:19:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:This we must know.
Aero and I almost got into a fist fight over the questions. We got into a lot of disagreements today actually. I figure every time we get into a disagreement you should simply concede defeat and conform to my opinion
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3902
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:23:00 -
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Curiouser and curiouser.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2078
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:24:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:This we must know.
Aero and I almost got into a fist fight over the questions. We got into a lot of disagreements today actually. I figure every time we get into a disagreement you should simply concede defeat and conform to my opinion +1 lol
"But we have been blessed"
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
9673
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:29:00 -
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"They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles?" I would guess the employers provide the clones in public and faction contracts, just like they provide the war barge and MCC.
Gû¦Gû+Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum alt Gû¦Gû+
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Rodd of Nor
Nor Clan Combat Logistics
26
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:30:00 -
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I have often wondered about the cost of clones myself but just assumed that the cost was covered by the cost of your fittings... though now that you mention it the corps and factions paying for the clones could explain the clone cap in the matches
It is better to be thought an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7018
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:33:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:"They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles?" I would guess the employers provide the clones in public and faction contracts, just like they provide the war barge and MCC. Seems kind of weird then that they provide the clones but we provide everything that goes on the clone. Especially say when you consider the Amarr medium dropsuit which needs to be drilled into the spinal chord of the clone in order to operate. And also I'm leaning towards the idea that our clones are personalized opposed to stock clones, which would also seem sort of weird for these employers to be providing us with our personalized clones.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7018
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:35:00 -
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Rodd of Nor wrote:I have often wondered about the cost of clones myself but just assumed that the cost was covered by the cost of your fittings... though now that you mention it the corps and factions paying for the clones could explain the clone cap in the matches I always thought the clone cap was more of a logistical issue, as in that is simply the most clones that the warbarge can carry. And you can argue that in PC you can have higher clone caps, but then I'd counter and say that the warbarges that go around in public contracts are likely planning to hit several districts before coming back to restock so they have to allocate only a portion of their clone reserves to each battle.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation
1192
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:36:00 -
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I can't even guess an answer for the others but I always assumed the Null Cannons had slave-trader based technologies, i.e. the Uplink. Whenever it's being contested it's shut off. Seeing how indestructible the Null Cannons are, I wouldn't find that too far fetch'd.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7785
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:38:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:This we must know.
Aero and I almost got into a fist fight over the questions. We got into a lot of disagreements today actually. I figure every time we get into a disagreement you should simply concede defeat and conform to my opinion Nah since I have the swag, and the Disciple of Kesha has ordained my to carry out the Lord's Swagalascious works, you conform to my glamour.
We r who we r Aero, no changing that.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7018
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:39:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:I can't even guess an answer for the others but I always assumed the Null Cannons had slave-trader based technologies, i.e. the Uplink. Whenever it's being contested it's shut off. Seeing how indestructible the Null Cannons are, I wouldn't find that too far fetch'd. Then why is that not true for the single null cannon in domination matches?
I'll be honest here, the first bunch of questions are all sincere questions regarding lore but that last question was more of a play on the fact that I dislike the spawn-on-point mechanic in skirmish and believe you should rely on CRUs and uplinks like in Domination.
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2964
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:41:00 -
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They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost this match, Mr Newberry. |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7021
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:43:00 -
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Skihids wrote:They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost his match, Mr Newberry. I figure with how advanced the societies have become in New Eden it wouldn't be that complicated to store your complete DNA sequence on some sort of database which can be accessed from any of the battle locations in New Eden.
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Amarr Victor!
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2442
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:44:00 -
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I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1845
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:We r who we r Aero, no changing that.
Kill yourself.
IT'S KE$HA, DAMMIT
Forge on for great justice!
Defend the meek! Destroy the weak!
Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1827
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:46:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that.
Just saw you in-game, too.
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2964
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:48:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high.
I thought you were going to bed. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7788
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:48:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:We r who we r Aero, no changing that. Kill yourself. IT'S KE$HA, DAMMIT
It's going down, I'm yelling timber You better move, you better dance Let's make a night, you won't remember I'll be the one, you won't forget
Book of Kesha- Verse 1, Timber
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2965
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:51:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost his match, Mr Newberry. I figure with how advanced the societies have become in New Eden it wouldn't be that complicated to store your complete DNA sequence on some sort of database which can be accessed from any of the battle locations in New Eden.
True, but it takes days to grow a clone while you decide where to fight within a minute of battle. When is all this custom clone growing supposed to take place? |
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2443
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:54:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I thought you were going to bed. I said I was getting off Dust.
Not my fault my phone is so damn engaging that I can't sleep.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7022
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:54:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost his match, Mr Newberry. I figure with how advanced the societies have become in New Eden it wouldn't be that complicated to store your complete DNA sequence on some sort of database which can be accessed from any of the battle locations in New Eden. True, but it takes days to grow a clone while you decide where to fight within a minute of battle. When is all this custom clone growing supposed to take place? Perhaps that although OOC we don't know who we are fighting for until a moments notice, IC we knew we were going to take up that contracts several days in advance?
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
1316
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones? If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones? If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work? How much does a clone cost? They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles? Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings? If not, than who is paying for our clones? Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc? Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
they're not very personalized. there might be some variation between the different races production methods and genetics and whatever, but they're not like capsuleers clones. a merc's clone only lives for 4 days or so and then it needs to reclone.
the cost of clones is kind of in flux right now. hopefully someday they'll be traded on the market and have a real value.
the cost in other battles is covered by the faction that put up the contract hat you're fighting.
no, the dropsuits and fittings are a different cost.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7022
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Posted - 2014.03.01 05:59:00 -
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low genius wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones? If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones? If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work? How much does a clone cost? They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles? Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings? If not, than who is paying for our clones? Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc? Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon? they're not very personalized. there might be some variation between the different races production methods and genetics and whatever, but they're not like capsuleers clones. a merc's clone only lives for 4 days or so and then it needs to reclone. the cost of clones is kind of in flux right now. hopefully someday they'll be traded on the market and have a real value. the cost in other battles is covered by the faction that put up the contract hat you're fighting. no, the dropsuits and fittings are a different cost. So what about the magical null cannon?
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Skihids
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2965
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:00:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost his match, Mr Newberry. I figure with how advanced the societies have become in New Eden it wouldn't be that complicated to store your complete DNA sequence on some sort of database which can be accessed from any of the battle locations in New Eden. True, but it takes days to grow a clone while you decide where to fight within a minute of battle. When is all this custom clone growing supposed to take place? Perhaps that although OOC we don't know who we are fighting for until a moments notice, IC we knew we were going to take up that contracts several days in advance?
So we spend a **** ton more ISK growing a bunch of custom clones that might not ever get used, and last mere seconds or minutes when they do? |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising
2443
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:01:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad?
"Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ."
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
1382
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:03:00 -
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Clones come from the same place babies come from GÇö Mr. Stork.
Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7022
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:10:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Skihids wrote:They are all stock clones. How could they be anything else when you can clone jump anywhere in the galaxy?
Think about it.
The game ignores clone cost in all but PC because it would bankrupt players otherwise. Yes, your fitting is free, but you owe 180K for each of those 12 clones you lost his match, Mr Newberry. I figure with how advanced the societies have become in New Eden it wouldn't be that complicated to store your complete DNA sequence on some sort of database which can be accessed from any of the battle locations in New Eden. True, but it takes days to grow a clone while you decide where to fight within a minute of battle. When is all this custom clone growing supposed to take place? Perhaps that although OOC we don't know who we are fighting for until a moments notice, IC we knew we were going to take up that contracts several days in advance? So we spend a **** ton more ISK growing a bunch of custom clones that might not ever get used, and last mere seconds or minutes when they do? Who says it's necessarily a **** ton more to grow custom clones over stock clones? Sure its definitely more expensive, but by how much? Wouldn't it be something that we would gladly invest in to retain a sense of identity? And any unused clones we can simply ship back to where ever we store the rest of our assets?
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
1828
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:12:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction We got cloned by like, 30-ish I think
I don't like knowing I'm 2.5 meters tall dude.
That's like... 10 feet. I Hope CCP conveniently forgets that part, or ninja changes it when PVE hits if we have Other Human Allies fighting with us.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7022
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:19:00 -
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The only problem I have with stock clones is that it becomes too easy to lose your identity and have no one able to tell the difference between you and the next guy aside from what you say and what you do. If that were the case, then you'd need to create a visual identity with what you wear, meaning personalized dropsuits meaning the promised paint shop.
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Absoliav
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
137
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:49:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones? If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones? If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work? How much does a clone cost? They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles? Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings? If not, than who is paying for our clones? Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc? Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
I'll try to answer some of these from what I've learned so far, clones are personalized, just like capsuleers, our clones have to be made before hand, the same logic for how a CRU can pump us out so quickly is the same one that explains how a CRU can make exact copies of our gear every time we die but can't give us ammo, switch weapons, or change suits. Game Logic
From what I understand, biomass for a single clone isn't very expensive compared to the machines.
These answers are derived from my reading of Templar One, which reveals a lot about how Dust clones work and how we are made.
To answer your last question, just refer to the last part of my first answer. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13218
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:05:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones? If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones? If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work? How much does a clone cost? They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles? Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings? If not, than who is paying for our clones? Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc? Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
1. The combat clones ar stock, and at the start there was only male variants made, females were made later; only the voice modulation was altered between clones. This was mostly done for psychological reasons. Whole reason why we don't gallente cloning themselves into furries or the like. Or the more oddly curios those trying to clone themselves into an animal's body such as a slaver hound. It is also why we're probably not allowed to take off our helmets in quarters yet either.
There is a chance we may have personalized clones there is no restriction against it yet; the lore hold up may be concord trying to figure us out still and how we're going to fit in.
2 Because they're stock CRUs and biomass are easily pressed into preconfigured instructions.
3. Clones are rather expensive they're probably the equal cost to last generation fighter jet.
4. Empires supply the clones and salvage the biomass, most of this quality biomass is made from the refuse and dead of the empires.
5. Empires are likely helping supply the war materials to entice the use of the isomorphic beings even at what seems to be an exuberant cost we're much cheaper because a large number of factors one being we don't need to be replaced if we die and with empires commencing their own salvage operations they're probably recouping most of the costs.
6. Most corps are proxies of the empire when it comes to security requests involving shared assets. The only exception is likely the caldari who would have privatized armies to supply the war materials needed. The final payout you're getting is likely how much money you just saved them the trouble. Maybe the delaying action was enough to save the lab data, maybe the delaying action allowed the corp to get their satellite into space first at least. Maybe your raid was a big enough distraction to cover up the real raid. Either way it's a well learned lesson you do NOT simply send mortals to fight immortals on the ground.
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Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
13218
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:21:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction
This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
765
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall.
Sounds strikingly close the Warhammer 40k Adeptus Astartes (i.e. Space Marines).
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall. Sounds strikingly close the Warhammer 40k Adeptus Astartes (i.e. Space Marines).
Cept we don't have gene hearts, and when a space marine dies for good, he's GONE and our enabling process is FAR shorter turnaround time. The space marines would (and I am surprised they haven't yet) lose by war of attrition alone due to the inability to continue to rebuild from potentially horrific losses including their battle armor which is a lost art to them.
Also our own redundancies are not as extensive as war hammer's we don't have two hearts or two livers; we likely have a self sealing heat instead. The other thing about eve fiction though is we got some gawd awfully belligerently intelligent scientists is pretty scary at times how quickly they can adapt things; I mean who would have thought they would manage to shrink dreadnaught turret mounting technology small enough to fit on a destroyer and do it in 8 years.
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