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Absoliav
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Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.01 06:49:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones?
If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones?
If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work?
How much does a clone cost?
They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles?
Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings?
If not, than who is paying for our clones?
Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc?
Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly
What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
I'll try to answer some of these from what I've learned so far, clones are personalized, just like capsuleers, our clones have to be made before hand, the same logic for how a CRU can pump us out so quickly is the same one that explains how a CRU can make exact copies of our gear every time we die but can't give us ammo, switch weapons, or change suits. Game Logic
From what I understand, biomass for a single clone isn't very expensive compared to the machines.
These answers are derived from my reading of Templar One, which reveals a lot about how Dust clones work and how we are made.
To answer your last question, just refer to the last part of my first answer. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:05:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are our clones personalized to our original DNA or do we use stock clones?
If we use stock clones then why do we have male and female clones?
If the clones are personalized than how do you explain how CRUs work?
How much does a clone cost?
They seem to cost a lot when looking at how much they sell for in PC, but how come we don't pay for that in other battles?
Are the costs of our clone covered in the overall expense of our dropsuits and fittings?
If not, than who is paying for our clones?
Are the corps that hire us paying for them? Like Roden Shipyards, Blood Raiders, Quafe, Imperial Guard, etc?
Or are we paying for them with some hidden expense that is not shown but docked from our contract payout?
And perhaps most importantly
What magical mystical power is allowing a clone to animate itself from a null cannon?
1. The combat clones ar stock, and at the start there was only male variants made, females were made later; only the voice modulation was altered between clones. This was mostly done for psychological reasons. Whole reason why we don't gallente cloning themselves into furries or the like. Or the more oddly curios those trying to clone themselves into an animal's body such as a slaver hound. It is also why we're probably not allowed to take off our helmets in quarters yet either.
There is a chance we may have personalized clones there is no restriction against it yet; the lore hold up may be concord trying to figure us out still and how we're going to fit in.
2 Because they're stock CRUs and biomass are easily pressed into preconfigured instructions.
3. Clones are rather expensive they're probably the equal cost to last generation fighter jet.
4. Empires supply the clones and salvage the biomass, most of this quality biomass is made from the refuse and dead of the empires.
5. Empires are likely helping supply the war materials to entice the use of the isomorphic beings even at what seems to be an exuberant cost we're much cheaper because a large number of factors one being we don't need to be replaced if we die and with empires commencing their own salvage operations they're probably recouping most of the costs.
6. Most corps are proxies of the empire when it comes to security requests involving shared assets. The only exception is likely the caldari who would have privatized armies to supply the war materials needed. The final payout you're getting is likely how much money you just saved them the trouble. Maybe the delaying action was enough to save the lab data, maybe the delaying action allowed the corp to get their satellite into space first at least. Maybe your raid was a big enough distraction to cover up the real raid. Either way it's a well learned lesson you do NOT simply send mortals to fight immortals on the ground.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:21:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction
This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall.
Sounds strikingly close the Warhammer 40k Adeptus Astartes (i.e. Space Marines).
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.03.01 07:57:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:I will find the link, but first, I will answer the questions.
We use stock clones.
Female clones were recently manufactured because when a women use a male clone, the mental toll was high. I could believe that. Just saw you in-game, too. Was it the one where I lost? Or lost really bad? "Starting with the Military Grade Clone, the core of every dropsuit, is constructed out of high quality biomass laced with nanites. The clone design itself is complete with many military decisions such as redundancy to prevent body failure and shock, enhanced skeletal and muscular strength, improved endurance, efficient metabolism, dulled pain senses and additional organs to support nanite use and bodily fabrication to help suppliment any additional augmentations that allow drop suit porting where needed. Encasing the innards of the clone is a bio-engineered titanium-ion based skeleton to keep the clone lightweight and strong. Despite all the liberties taken in designing these nearly two and a half meter tall monsters, have still have a very human physiology. This feature makes conscious transferal into this 'blank body' easy and sensible even if the previous body was the one that consciousness was born in. Early development of these miltiary grade clones was only available in a male gender which has impacted several early female test subjects to the program. This was later corrected shortly before the battle of Caldari prime when the military specs where fully matched in a female physic ." https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Item_Database:Infantry_Gear:Dropsuits#Dropsuit_Construction This is a wiki; I am the author and need to go back with a hammer, and yes the clones are nearly 8ft tall. Sounds strikingly close the Warhammer 40k Adeptus Astartes (i.e. Space Marines).
Cept we don't have gene hearts, and when a space marine dies for good, he's GONE and our enabling process is FAR shorter turnaround time. The space marines would (and I am surprised they haven't yet) lose by war of attrition alone due to the inability to continue to rebuild from potentially horrific losses including their battle armor which is a lost art to them.
Also our own redundancies are not as extensive as war hammer's we don't have two hearts or two livers; we likely have a self sealing heat instead. The other thing about eve fiction though is we got some gawd awfully belligerently intelligent scientists is pretty scary at times how quickly they can adapt things; I mean who would have thought they would manage to shrink dreadnaught turret mounting technology small enough to fit on a destroyer and do it in 8 years.
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