DUST Search - Having a low k/d ratio doesn't make you a logi or scout.

KingBabar wrote:

Rynoceros wrote:

Think your KDR says something?
Come at me.
Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses.
I drag these sorry mother ******* to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back.
***** ass pieces of **** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce.

Well, some of us do all that. You know, support, carry the teams on Our backs, always pushing the objective, always going for the win, we have Our theme Nights With silly fittings and so on.

And we still have a KDR of 5+, and a win/loss ratio to match.

Some of you People use this generic excuse, that goes in the lines of "Bec ause I do this and that I have a terrible KDR, the dudes With high KDR are just stat padding tryhards With 0.7 in win/loss ratio".

Yes its very easy to boost ones KDR in this game by sniping, tanking, roftop camping etc. A persons KDR is only a viable measure if, well, to be quite honest here, Plays like or similar to me. Yeah i do sound like an entitles asshat, doean't mean that I'm not right....

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IMMORTAL WAR HERO NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 99	Posted - 2014.03.02 07:56:00 - [61] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. lol if i sat there and sniped with a thales or charge my kd would be amazing but its boring Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
bogeyman m Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 128	Posted - 2014.03.02 08:34:00 - [62] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. What's a KAY DEE ARR? Is that some neat way of abbreviating KanDybaR? And for your information, I have tried several times to kill reds at both close and medium range with my rep tool to no effect. It just doesn't do enough damage. But for reals, I, personally, am a logi because I'm a bad shot. I don't need to be a good shot to Res Rep and Resupply my squad. I am getting better though. I think it's pronounced KAY DEE ARRrgghhh...
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3282	Posted - 2014.03.02 20:59:00 - [63] - Quote Please for the sake of clarity. Define an average KD/R ratio for me. For me, 1.0 is low, 2.0 is average, and 3.0+ is fantastic for scouts. Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
Hynox Xitio Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 223	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:03:00 - [64] - Quote I like to stand in front of rail rifle fire sometimes so my logi can farm war points. Hynox Xitio // Patron Saint of Fogwogglers // Master Heavy
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2187	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:18:00 - [65] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Please for the sake of clarity. Define an average KD/R ratio for me. For me, 1.0 is low, 2.0 is average, and 3.0+ is fantastic for scouts. How can 2 be average? Mathematically that doesn't make a lot of sense. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Marston VC SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1554	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:25:00 - [66] - Quote I think it takes exceptional skill to have a good k/d (above 2) while also being a good logi. But you don't have to have a good k/d to be considered a "good" logi. Marston VC, STB Director
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 134	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:35:00 - [67] - Quote to many ways to boost and pad kdr in dust for it to matter Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1862	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:38:00 - [68] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Please for the sake of clarity. Define an average KD/R ratio for me. For me, 1.0 is low, 2.0 is average, and 3.0+ is fantastic for scouts. For scouts? I would think... 0 is low, .1 is average, and .25 is ******* boss. Thats me not being a scout, but fighting scouts makes me think even attempting to get 1.0 KDR is like trying to be a god. Because you Wanted to be Something your Not.
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 84	Posted - 2014.03.02 21:59:00 - [69] - Quote I run adv gal scout 99% of the time in pubs, my lifetime KDR is 2.17 but monthly is above 3. My w/l is a lot higher since I will push for a win in my flimsy suit if it will help us achieve a victory. I do a lot of uplink support for my squad, as well as flan behind the enemy and hack or destroy uplinks on the way back to their frontline lol. I consider myself a pretty good scout for using a somewhat UP suit.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3005	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:16:00 - [70] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Please for the sake of clarity. Define an average KD/R ratio for me. For me, 1.0 is low, 2.0 is average, and 3.0+ is fantastic for scouts. For scouts? I would think... 0 is low, .1 is average, and .25 is ******* boss. Thats me not being a scout, but fighting scouts makes me think even attempting to get 1.0 KDR is like trying to be a god. Scouts take quite an SP investment to master. With good passive scan skills, speed, and a different mindset, it's the most fun I've had in Dust. This event has been a bit rough as a scout (for me anyway), but getting under scans is huge. Being able to flank and escape is a big change from being weighted down in a Galogi suit. ML Director Eve Toon - Raylan Scott

STEALTH HUNTER ZERO D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 86	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:20:00 - [71] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Please for the sake of clarity. Define an average KD/R ratio for me. For me, 1.0 is low, 2.0 is average, and 3.0+ is fantastic for scouts. For scouts? I would think... 0 is low, .1 is average, and .25 is ******* boss. Thats me not being a scout, but fighting scouts makes me think even attempting to get 1.0 KDR is like trying to be a god. Scouts take quite an SP investment to master. With good passive scan skills, speed, and a different mindset, it's the most fun I've had in Dust. This event has been a bit rough as a scout (for me anyway), but getting under scans is huge. Being able to flank and escape is a big change from being weighted down in a Galogi suit. RE's my friend, they'll kill everything but chuck norris.
Chuckles Brown 194	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:22:00 - [72] - Quote 1. KDR NEVER matters. Winning is all that matters. And anything in a public contract match is just a lol pub where scrubs pad their KDR but can't break even in a PC or even qualify to play in one. 2. Yes, Logis should have lower KDRs, as it's not their job to be a kill *****. They should die more often because they are unarmed more often, and without a sidearm(except Amarr). Kind of hard to defend yourself when you're hacking, holding equipment, or come across 3 enemies and you don't have a sidearm... 3. The best Scout in the game has a KDR of 3-something... the best Assault in the game has a KDR around 15... 4. The vast majority of players on this game have a negative KDR because of how the game is built. Strong continously crush the weak. To quote Reg... lol at General Discussion... The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial Do you pub, brah?
Amuf Oratok Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2014.03.02 22:51:00 - [73] - Quote I've been playing minmatar scout knifer for almost a year. My k/d ratio is .64 and is lowering day by day. You know what? I'm fine with that. It doesn't matter to me dying multiple times if I can stop the enemies from hacking the null cannon. I could walk on a minefield just to assassinate a sniper. My blue armor distracts my enemies, they know I'm an easy kill, so I try sometimes to act as a bait. I am surely a bad player, since my personal skills did not get better after all this time, but an insult to the scout role? I don't think so.
Yan Darn Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 295	Posted - 2014.03.02 23:21:00 - [74] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of ** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. ^ I'm contraception against being redlined. I suppose if I chucked on a rifle and stayed with the squad on top of a building defending a single objective and not capping anything, my KDR (1.1ish) would probably be better but the games would be boring, if not complete losses... It's the main reason I really prefer scout squads these days. Everyone else is staying put at a single objective or constantly spawning at an uplink, going head first into another squad defending an objective. No tension. No excitement. Only a few scouts are deadly ninjas who leave nothing but corpses behind...1.8 will make these guys gods. The Ghost of Bravo
WonLon Tong Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 15	Posted - 2014.03.03 08:31:00 - [75] - Quote Tears have been harvested, Thank you for your participation.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 351	Posted - 2014.03.03 08:51:00 - [76] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6. And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l He is the best scout in the game. He is just insanely good Have tryed to run with the exact same outfit as he does, however it does not work for me god knows how he does it. However it does not hurt to have him in corp to get pointers etc. my KDR has actually gone upp the last cupule of weeks after talking to him. Even doing okey in PC now with my scout last one I was killed more to friendly fire then of the ragging reds. Al thanks to Fusion Regards War never changes
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4740	Posted - 2014.03.03 08:53:00 - [77] - Quote I don't even know what my KDR is.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Mregomies Beer For Evil Mercs 165	Posted - 2014.03.03 08:56:00 - [78] - Quote I have 1.7 KDR (with only 13k kills) and over 2.2m lifetime WP, that makes me a logi. My doubletanking keep my KDR decent. Suomi, Finland, PERKELE! Logibro
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect Negative-Feedback 1943	Posted - 2014.03.03 09:39:00 - [79] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of ** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. Well, some of us do all that. You know, support, carry the teams on Our backs, always pushing the objective, always going for the win, we have Our theme Nights With silly fittings and so on. And we still have a KDR of 5+, and a win/loss ratio to match. Some of you People use this generic excuse, that goes in the lines of "Bec ause I do this and that I have a terrible KDR, the dudes With high KDR are just stat padding tryhards With 0.7 in win/loss ratio". Yes its very easy to boost ones KDR in this game by sniping, tanking, roftop camping etc. A persons KDR is only a viable measure if, well, to be quite honest here, Plays like or similar to me. Yeah i do sound like an entitles asshat, doean't mean that I'm not right.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 749	Posted - 2014.03.03 13:41:00 - [80] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: Tears have been harvested, Thank you for your participation. You need a new catch phrase. The whole tears thing became outdated 5 months ago.

Atiim 5210	Posted - 2014.03.03 14:25:00 - [81] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: Tears have been harvested, Thank you for your participation. I think your mistaking QQ for people calling you out on your stupidity. It's the latter. Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1903	Posted - 2014.03.03 14:27:00 - [82] - Quote KDR is a **** heads idea of a good stat. Accuracy would make more sense. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 4748	Posted - 2014.03.03 14:39:00 - [83] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: KDR is a **** heads idea of a good stat. Accuracy would make more sense. But I use a MD most of the time..... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 4 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
WonLon Tong Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:27:00 - [84] - Quote KingBabar wrote: Rynoceros wrote: Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of ** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. Well, some of us do all that. You know, support, carry the teams on Our backs, always pushing the objective, always going for the win, we have Our theme Nights With silly fittings and so on. And we still have a KDR of 5+, and a win/loss ratio to match. Some of you People use this generic excuse, that goes in the lines of "Bec ause I do this and that I have a terrible KDR, the dudes With high KDR are just stat padding tryhards With 0.7 in win/loss ratio". Yes its very easy to boost ones KDR in this game by sniping, tanking, roftop camping etc. A persons KDR is only a viable measure if, well, to be quite honest here, Plays like or similar to me. Yeah i do sound like an entitles asshat, doean't mean that I'm not right.... No one cares gawd
WonLon Tong Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:28:00 - [85] - Quote Atiim wrote: WonLon Tong wrote: Tears have been harvested, Thank you for your participation. I think your mistaking QQ for people calling you out on your stupidity. It's the latter. #TankAreNotOP
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1750	Posted - 2014.03.03 16:34:00 - [86] - Quote I'm a slayer but in PC I use logis cuz that's what's needed in PC, assaults seem like a waste to me in PC with that 1 equipment slot. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
WonLon Tong Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 16	Posted - 2014.03.03 21:45:00 - [87] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: I'm a slayer but in PC I use logis cuz that's what's needed in PC, assaults seem like a waste to me in PC with that 1 equipment slot. Same gotta chain dem orbis


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