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Nocturnal Soul
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2069
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:33:00 -
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Well when your the only guy on the team with RE's and the enemy team has 1-3 tanks you tend to do alot of suicide missions to state your presence on the battle field.
"But we have been blessed"
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
160
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:34:00 -
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My KD/R has actually gone up quite a bit since I started really using scouts  Oddly enough, since this heavy event started, it's gone down due to me trying to run a fat suit...  I just want to get back to my nova knives 
Sometimes I miss never seeing tanks in a battle... then I remember the mystical flying soma, and I can't help but smile.
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Hoover Damn
H.A.R.V.E.S.T.
Legacy Rising
60
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:35:00 -
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Logi Stician wrote:And for your information, I have tried several times to kill reds at both close and medium range with my rep tool to no effect. It just doesn't do enough damage.
Somebody give this man a medal. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die
277
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:35:00 -
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I have up reptool and droplinks more, that Gaussie of mine.
I basicaly taking up Gaussie only if enemy is really upfront and there is noone (from my squad) who sloud be covered by my support.
Support - Tactician/Support
Deteis - Orator
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
702
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:37:00 -
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if u have a crappy kdr... then u should start chucking out nanohives and giving reps to those that dont. |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
1804
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:39:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Screw kdr its all about that weekly win/loss
...says the guy with like a double-digit KDR. 
I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - draconian forum overlord CCP Logibro]
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
1822
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:59:00 -
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Low KDR doesn't make you a scout or logi.
But many, many true logis and scouts have low KDRs due to the fact their role has nothing to do with fighting for the most part. Truebros spend a ton of time making sure their buddies are set with full health and ammo.
And scouts are...scouts. Their just paper. They are going to die very, very freqently because their paper, and they can be seen by anybody and everybody.
Looking for a Interesting Character Name?
Why Not Zoidberg?
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CLONE117
True Pros Forever
703
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:12:00 -
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speaking of scouts i think ill have to try running a mlt scout one of these days. if a end up going 15 something with it then i may never understand the bitching with scouts.
im not the kind of person that likes to sneak around. i prefer to go guns blazing. even during missions that require absolute stealth. so im not sure how well id pull off in a scout suit. but from how well ive done in my mlt suits for monthes i may give it a try. one of these days. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
1841
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:19:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:I use KDR as a very general Baseline for recruiting. As long as you're following and fulfilling the objectives outlined by your role, then your spread means nothing to me.
However, evidence has suggested 20 bombs and 30 bombs can strengthen morale, while demoralizing the enemy. This load of s h I t coming from a guy whos signature used to say " KDR>All" , pffffttt  nub. Gg As much as I'll fall for Reg's troll bait I am told at the very least half of the shlt he says is sarcastic. In this case I'll choose to believe his KDR>all is the sarcastic one
Reg is one of the biggest trolls in the history of DUST.
Forge on for great justice!
Defend the meek! Destroy the weak!
Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3298
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:42:00 -
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WonLon Tong wrote:It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad.
What if I hunt proto suits in a militia fit. Does that count?
No.
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3059
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:46:00 -
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Skihids wrote:WonLon Tong wrote:It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. I'm not "bad" even if I have a less than even KDR. My worth is not measured in KDR. That's a myopia suffered by the slayer class.
Actually you are bad if you have a less than even kdr. |
Fusion Commander
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
103
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:12:00 -
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls.  Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6.  And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l
I don't use cores anymore haven't used them in 2 month but I get in those situation where I wish I had them
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Ripcord19981
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
Legacy Rising
489
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:39:00 -
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WonLon Tong wrote:It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad.
Hmm not sure ig Im reading the post the wrong way, I do have golden moments in my scout mk suit, but being relevant to the team and having a kdr of 2.5+ is really hard in the scout suit.
My KDR i 2.85 (descent not great)
Whats yours?
I can only please one person per day. Today is not ur day, tomorrow doesn't look too bright either.
Turkey sammich>taco
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Scheneighnay McBob
Learning Coalition College
4165
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:43:00 -
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Good scouts have a higher KDR than good assaults
As if KDR means anything anyway.
I am your scan error.
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calvin b
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
1581
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:45:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:Screw kdr its all about that weekly win/loss
I have disagree on the weekly win/loss factor. I have no control over who is on my team so my win/loss will be different than those who run with squads. Yes it is my choice, but do not penalize me because poor play from others. Today was a perfect example. Me and one other on my team had a positive KD/R me and the other person was the only one to get above 500 WP. I know others struggle and for that I understand when others do not do well. I have tried to carry my team and all it has cause me is lose of ISK and a few years off my life due to stress. Just play your way and let the chips fall where they may. I think a person's skill is measured by kills, WP, or both.
A heavy before 1.8
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1541
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Posted - 2014.03.01 01:58:00 -
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wat? KDr doesn't mean ****.
1.5-6 I maintained a 1.37 KDr
I currently have a 1.26
I am no more or less of a scout for it.
why on earth would KDr dictate the skill of a player? A player who chooses inaction to preserve something as superficial and worthless as KDr is a as useless as a player who picks bad fights and loses clones unnecessarily.
GÇ£Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for I am dampened.GÇ¥
Ko6 scout,
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Odigos Ellinas
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2014.03.01 02:17:00 -
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Red line snipers have a great kdr !! right ??? do they count as good scouts ???
Or this kdr fanatics who leave battle before it begins because they saw a good player on the enemy team. (fix this with ISK penalty for contract violation )
Or the athers "i don't see any enemy tank great i can call in one to fix my kdr" (fix everyone needs t have a rail tank ready ) etcGǪ..
KDR is telling nothing because of the game mechanic in dust !
And don't start with the warpoints we all now the one guy who drops in a ambush the uplink in front of the enemy team and all the team is force spawning there. (fix WP only if team members survive 30sec )
The hundreds of crazy medics who keep picking you up with the red waiting for you (fix WP only if team members survive 30sec ) etcGǪ.
war points are telling nothing in dust ! |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
1353
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Posted - 2014.03.01 03:53:00 -
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I'm mostly a hacker rather than a slayer. But, I do mostly go positive. Or I try to, anyways.
I like hacking CRUs because they can turn the tide of battle and/or have berries distract the enemy while you go for your true objective. |
Crazy Cat Lady
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
68
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Posted - 2014.03.01 04:20:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:
Then there are people like Crazy Cat Lady that don't use their gun at all and have a 0.6 kdr because they only die, but still get upwards of 5000 wp per match. I think she has maybe 3000 LIFETIME kills. That's less than what most players earn in a month lol
Shayz, you are talking me up with such over-generous stats.. My KDR is actually 0.38 LMFAO. I keep wondering if I might be able to get it down to 0.1 one day
Meh, my weapon is the dude I am keeping alive. Fingers crossed he kills them all.
Btw a salute to you and other combat logis who multitask like a boss. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
699
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Posted - 2014.03.01 04:24:00 -
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Having a high k/d ratio doesn't make you a logi or scout, either. |
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Meee One
The dyst0pian Corporation
Zero-Day
426
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Posted - 2014.03.01 04:36:00 -
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I find KDR to be a bad measurement.
I've been in matches where players have gone 42/2 and i was still #1 with 0/3.
Logibro FTW.
Also,personal KDR of .55 .
Only users lose drugs.
Time wounds all heels.
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abarkrishna
WarRavens
319
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Posted - 2014.03.01 13:48:00 -
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I must be a terrible logi with my 2.0 KDR and 2500 + wp accrual a game.
Guess I should grab a rail rifle or militia tank and spam that like everyone else.
No you kill this blueberry hacking the CRU we are camping. I already killed the last 2.
When will they learn!
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Meknow Intaki
90
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Posted - 2014.03.01 16:31:00 -
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I've been been playing since mordu's private trials and I have given up on my kdr a long time ago.
I worry more about cost if fits and how much I bring in vs. How useful I am to the team. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
198
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Posted - 2014.03.02 05:57:00 -
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Crazy Cat Lady wrote:Btw a salute to you and other combat logis who multitask like a boss.
Awww shucks 
"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1781
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:22:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:speaking of scouts i think ill have to try running a mlt scout one of these days. if a end up going 15 something with it then i may never understand the bitching with scouts.
im not the kind of person that likes to sneak around. i prefer to go guns blazing. even during missions that require absolute stealth. so im not sure how well id pull off in a scout suit. but from how well ive done in my mlt suits for monthes i may give it a try. one of these days.
I did about six weeks in gal starters and it did help my scout game. I use a dragon fly scout as my first suit to drop linkups and hack. I have ran out of ammo more than once in a scout suit and in some matches it will be the only suit I get kills in. If there were a scout suit with a bonus to LR that make feedback extremely small then I would use a LR on a scout but as it is I carry an exile AR BPO and a toxin SMG BPO. I recommend playing starter fits to anyone who wants a tougher challenge, better skills or more ISK. Oddly enough it will provide all three at once.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1781
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:35:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Skihids wrote:WonLon Tong wrote:It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. I'm not "bad" even if I have a less than even KDR. My worth is not measured in KDR. That's a myopia suffered by the slayer class. Actually you are bad if you have a less than even kdr.
I am bad. 0.6something.
I do make up for it by providing good logi support. There are many fights where my heavy has gone down once or twice but lost no suits and I have died five times because I will rep from the front and move in front of incoming damage. It works more times than it fails but it does cause me to lose suits. I also try to use myself as a shield if it needle someone, my KDR is junk and I am a bad shot but I am a good logi and squad mate so I feel that my KDR is justified. More often than not I am in the top five of 32 from repping and kill assists.
In Chrome I was a squad leader a good bit and my KDR was 2+ so being good at orbitals is also a factor sometimes.
"You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus."
Raoul Duke
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
1558
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:43:00 -
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I've been playing as a LogiScout for several months so I am neither effective at being a Logi nor a Scout. I think my KDR reflects that perfectly.
...I'm a bad player... |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
601
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:43:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6.
It is indeed, and his W/L is much higher than that, but my point is this...
There might be better, but Fusion's is as gifted of a scout as I've seen in this game.
His lifetime kdr is below 4.
If you look at slayer logis, assaults, snipers, tankers, or just about any other role on the battlefield (except perhaps support logi or maybe heavy), the KDRs of the top players are double that. |
Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
327
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Posted - 2014.03.02 06:48:00 -
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I have kd/r 1.15,but why care about kd/r ?Does better kd/r make you better player.Answer is NO
Fck the kdr,i`m going in
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.03.02 07:21:00 -
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My KDR blows and I have no clue what I am doing.
My skill tree is a damn mess. My minmaturd apartment is filled with half read books, explosives, and so many guns parts that I don't know what goes to which gun.
Am I AV, a logi, a scout, ADS pilot, free style jogger, jeep enthusiast? I don't know. I play whatever role I feel like in a not-so great fashion. I have a lot of fun, and I enjoy my corpmates.
Stats...pffffttt. Your worth is measured by those around you...and by handies given in LAVs.
We can pickle that.
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