DUST Search - Having a low k/d ratio doesn't make you a logi or scout.

Zatara Rought wrote:

INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote:

Zatara Rought wrote:

Leadfoot10 wrote:

A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR.

Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it!

And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad".

As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Big smile

Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6.

What?

And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l Big smile

Good for him...if he's managing to use 50 cpu of his fit for that and sacrificing elsewhere when m1's are 20...props for being such a masternader. Smile

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WonLon Tong Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:28:00 - [1] - Quote It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2944	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:32:00 - [2] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. I'm not "bad" even if I have a less than even KDR. My worth is not measured in KDR. That's a myopia suffered by the slayer class.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10175	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:35:00 - [3] - Quote I can think of a number of logis who are probably better than you ever will be who don't have a good KDR. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 560	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:37:00 - [4] - Quote A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad".
Onesimus Tarsus 1243	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:40:00 - [5] - Quote Having a low kdr in a scout suit does make you a scout, though. I'm recruiting only the hardest hard-core-rers out there who are in here. cc2.27.13
mr musturd 0uter.Heaven 395	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:43:00 - [6] - Quote Screw kdr its all about that weekly win/loss
ReGnYuM Escrow Removal and Acquisition 2328	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:43:00 - [7] - Quote I use KDR as a very general Baseline for recruiting. As long as you're following and fulfilling the objectives outlined by your role, then your spread means nothing to me. However, evidence has suggested 20 bombs and 30 bombs can strengthen morale, while demoralizing the enemy. Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset I Slay, for thy Empress Do you even PC... Brah
Logi Stician The Vanguardians INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 284	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:45:00 - [8] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. What's a KAY DEE ARR? Is that some neat way of abbreviating KanDybaR? And for your information, I have tried several times to kill reds at both close and medium range with my rep tool to no effect. It just doesn't do enough damage. But for reals, I, personally, am a logi because I'm a bad shot. I don't need to be a good shot to Res Rep and Resupply my squad. I am getting better though. "...and I'm the seventh out of seven sons, my pappy was a pistol, I'm a son of a gun. "
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2457	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:45:00 - [9] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 408	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:46:00 - [10] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. Having a high kdr doesnt make you not bad. Lots of scouts and logis have great kdr.

Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1792	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:49:00 - [11] - Quote lol, this guy, trolling is not your area of expertise 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 411	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:49:00 - [12] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: I use KDR as a very general Baseline for recruiting. As long as you're following and fulfilling the objectives outlined by your role, then your spread means nothing to me. However, evidence has suggested 20 bombs and 30 bombs can strengthen morale, while demoralizing the enemy. This load of s h I t coming from a guy whos signature used to say " KDR>All" , pffffttt nub. Gg
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 411	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:51:00 - [13] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6. And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 2905	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:53:00 - [14] - Quote Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of ** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. I GÖú Kittens.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2457	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:53:00 - [15] - Quote mr musturd wrote: Screw kdr its all about that weekly win/loss maybe in PC...w/l is nothing when you run around in pubstomp squads or solo...basically anyone in pubs...when they come out with a stat that tracks CB win/loss (if they reintroduce it) along with PC w/l then that stat will be the end all be all. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2171	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:54:00 - [16] - Quote Whatever you say, OP. I guess Ill stop playing Dust now because I'm so useless, lol. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Lv2spd2 Slow And Old 220	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:54:00 - [17] - Quote Logi Stician wrote: And for your information, I have tried several times to kill reds at both close and medium range with my rep tool to no effect. It just doesn't do enough damage. I've gotten a couple of kills by meleeing people while holding my rep tool. Most notably a nova knifing scout this last weekend. I can't think of anything in the game that would have been more embarassing than losing the heavy I was repping to a knifer while I was still alive.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:55:00 - [18] - Quote My K/D is not good sometimes I go 0/5+ but I'm in the top 3 for overall team points because I am supporting my team as a logi should. My MD is not something I go off and slay with but to deny the enemy of an area was squad is advancing on. Throwing down hives as needed and not spamming them is the mark of a true logi. Having a repper/injector is the mark of a true logi. K/D doesn't matter so long as the end of the match the team was supported to the best of my ability.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution 2457	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:55:00 - [19] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6. And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l Good for him...if he's managing to use 50 cpu of his fit for that and sacrificing elsewhere when m1's are 20...props for being such a masternader. CEO of FA B3RT>PFBHz>TP>IMP>FA Follow me on twitter Skype Zatara.Rought
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2171	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:55:00 - [20] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. No hot sauce? Sounds gross. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics"** -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!

Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 193	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:55:00 - [21] - Quote k/d is only a good measure for slayer assaults and heavies wp area better in game stat for logis scouts well ... scouts you just have to run with them to find out ... good luck catching up to them tho Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
Atiim Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 5153	Posted - 2014.02.28 21:59:00 - [22] - Quote WonLon Tong wrote: It's insulting to REAL scouts and logis using their class as an excuse to be bad. Why not actually play as those roles properly, and see if it's as you presume. K/D is so miniscule in this game when you have people who constantly boost and pad their stats, and if it did, why would a support based role revolve around K/D? Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 195	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:02:00 - [23] - Quote Well I originally ran Logi because it gives me more to do. Just slaying get's boring, being the Logi let's me have something to do all the time while knowing what's going on around me. *"War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left."*
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 411	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:04:00 - [24] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Leadfoot10 wrote: A good logi allows his teammates to seek kills, which typically results in a lower than usual KDR. Like Arkena, I know a few of them that have very good gun games and can excel in the role, but they take their lumps for the good of the team, and I salute them for it! And if you think it's easy to have a high KDR as a scout, and actually provide some value to your team, I would sure love to run with you and evaluate your skill. Because the best scouts I know (who are among the very best in this game), all struggle with KDR -- and they are anything but "bad". As for me, I'm a slayer logi who has no real excuse for his less-than-stellar KDR -- except my complete lack of DS3 skill combined with poor MKB controls. Fusion Commander's weekly k/d is like 5-6. And 3 out of that 5 or 6 is Cores to the face.....l Good for him...if he's managing to use 50 cpu of his fit for that and sacrificing elsewhere when m1's are 20...props for being such a masternader. Agreed, but cores are waaaay more fun...
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 411	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:07:00 - [25] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: Think your KDR says something? Come at me. Mine is a 1.18 because of how I choose to play, not because I don't know how to back myself into a dark corner near an objective and camp out, proto'd out, while my team loses. I drag these sorry mother ***** to Victory. Uplinks, hacks, kills, pushing objectives - I put the team on my back. * ass pieces of ** worrying about KDR can eat a greasy bag of dicks. No hot sauce. Damnit Ryno we wanted hotsauce with greasy c o c k.......
Charlotte O'Dell Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1988	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:13:00 - [26] - Quote Scanners and uplinks are my equipment of choice. Small effort and big WP payback. Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 1006	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:15:00 - [27] - Quote no, it means you ran nova knives with no sidearm or EHP mods on a minmitar scout for your first 5 mil SP, and averaged 2-17 Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 417	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:21:00 - [28] - Quote Would rather have my low kdr than be one of those sad chumps who goes and kills a fellow corp mate over and over in some lonely corner of a map to pad his ego. Fun > kdr...I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't agree. Subterfuge and terrorist GOD in the making Proud Minmatar - Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL Love the Art of War
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2433	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:31:00 - [29] - Quote Weekly/monthly kdr is better than lifetime. Because lifetime shows all of the deaths that happened when you were still a noob lol. My weekly kdr can be as high as 4 or 5 as a support logi/heavy, while my lifetime has barely risen from 2.12 to 2.4 over the past however many months since the last respec. Then there are people like Crazy Cat Lady that don't use their gun at all and have a 0.6 kdr because they only die, but still get upwards of 5000 wp per match. I think she has maybe 3000 LIFETIME kills. That's less than what most players earn in a month lol Links: List of Most Important Threads I make logistics videos!
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 780	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:32:00 - [30] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: I use KDR as a very general Baseline for recruiting. As long as you're following and fulfilling the objectives outlined by your role, then your spread means nothing to me. However, evidence has suggested 20 bombs and 30 bombs can strengthen morale, while demoralizing the enemy. This load of s h I t coming from a guy whos signature used to say " KDR>All" , pffffttt nub. Gg As much as I'll fall for Reg's troll bait I am told at the very least half of the shlt he says is sarcastic. In this case I'll choose to believe his KDR>all is the sarcastic one Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.



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