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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:50:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:ItGÇÖs kind of like, rich begets rich. Once you have full proto in everything your kill/death changes drastically. Shields go from 22, 33, 66. So even from advanced to proto, they are gaining double shields, which mean you have to do double damage to them to kill them and they have to do only half. Now that they stay alive much easier they can hack and kill and gain more points. Then they top the leader board and receive more money as payouts.
Or you can pay AUR to get proto as well. Once you get to lvl 3.
Running proto at lvl 3 without lvl5 skills and mods is a sure fire way to go broke.
CEO
Whiskey squad leader
Invictus Maneo~"I Remain Unvanquished"~
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
565
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:52:00 -
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I run proto virtually 100% of the time.
My corp is active in PC and we hold about 10 districts.
I have never received a DIME from my corp, except for losses in PC (and $2M I received for a win in PC last night).
Ergo, PC has NO EFFECT WHATSOEVER on my ability to run proto.
I can afford to run proto because (a) the two refunds, (b) six months of grinding with starter/bpo suits, and (c) my skill level (which, compared to some is quite modest).
Kind of shoots a hole in the common misunderstanding that a broken PC mechanic leads to protostomping, doesn't it?
Is it true that some protostompers use funding from locked districts to enable it? Sure.
Is the problem as widespread as some in this thread would have you believe? Not even close. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7767
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Posted - 2014.02.28 22:52:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Meknow Intaki wrote:I was playing some games the other night and half the people I was playing with we're filthy rich going full proto every round well the other half could barly run basic?!
Did something go wrong along the way or is this how CCP planed it?!
Billionaires Vs. The Poor Run only what you can afford to lose = profit. Then run what you want, until you lose too much isk. Back to running what you can afford to lose. It's called managing your income. It isn't hard.
Meh you could have circumvented that by joining one of the large PC alliance groups which locked their districts for the last few months. I bet you would have some serious cash if you had.
"War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine."
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2331
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:02:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:@ The angry mob ready to witchhunt PC players
Is the general anger here because PC Corporations are able to PubStomp in full Proto Gear, and because you run pubs, you're unable to afford Proto 24/7? Guess its a really hard question  Pretty sure I answered your question in both of my posts. Would you run full pro if the system only put you in matches were the other team was going to run full pro? You are playing this for a fair competition right, a game of skill with friends? Or do you do it for the lulz and not care for the overall experience. Seems pretty straight forward to answer.
1. (*ReGnUm'S eyes lights up with excitement) But good sir, I already play in a system that you have suggested... it is called PC.
2. I love them dem good fights. Furthermore, the plural form of friends does not fit me. I have only one friend and he is the Baby-Slayer.
3. I very do much care! Spaceman and spaceships is serious business!
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
509
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:09:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:1. (*ReGnUm'S eyes lights up with excitement) But good sir, I already play in a system that you have suggested... it is called PC.
To which I refer in a non-PC match if the system put you just with other Pro suits were victory was not certain would you run pro suits all of the time?
ReGnYuM wrote:2. I love them dem good fights. Furthermore, the plural form of friends does not fit me. I have only one friend and he is the Baby-Slayer.
Then you would support the tier/meta split to ensure "dem good fights" are preserved?
ReGnYuM wrote:3. I very do much care! Spaceman and spaceships is serious business!
Vry srs bsns
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Meknow Intaki
87
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:16:00 -
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What if CCP took away all the districts in PC and after fixing the game up a bit took away everyone's isk so we all had to start at zero =ƒæì |
Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
509
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:18:00 -
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Total reset to 0 with new content and everything that was promised? I would be okay with that. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10187
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:20:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Total reset to 0 with new content and everything that was promised? I would be okay with that.
Yeah, no.
"So you spent money on this game? RESET LOL!"
You can't even just refund the stuff, because things like BPOs aren't straight refund material.
Aside from that, there's the fact that some people have been working on their characters for over a year. Resetting that is seriously bullshit, sorry.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2333
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:27:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:1. (*ReGnUm'S eyes lights up with excitement) But good sir, I already play in a system that you have suggested... it is called PC. To which I refer in a non-PC match if the system put you just with other Pro suits were victory was not certain would you run pro suits all of the time? ReGnYuM wrote:2. I love them dem good fights. Furthermore, the plural form of friends does not fit me. I have only one friend and he is the Baby-Slayer. Then you would support the tier/meta split to ensure "dem good fights" are preserved? ReGnYuM wrote:3. I very do much care! Spaceman and spaceships is serious business! Vry srs bsns
1. Why would we have two of the same systems. Furthermore, I will always fight for victory! No matter the cost; no matter the opponent. For the glory of NF! (Salutes NF Flag)
2. Your Tier system will only add more Que time to an already strained playerbase.. There is no such thing as a good fight in Public match.
3. Glad we agree on something 
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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ReGnYuM
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
2333
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:28:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fraceska wrote:Total reset to 0 with new content and everything that was promised? I would be okay with that. Yeah, no. "So you spent money on this game? RESET LOL!" You can't even just refund the stuff, because things like BPOs aren't straight refund material. Aside from that, there's the fact that some people have been working on their characters for over a year. Resetting that is seriously bullshit, sorry.
very very bad idea
Official Imperfect Title: Supreme Leader of the Endless Sunset
I Slay, for thy Empress
Do you even PC... Brah
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
3898
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:30:00 -
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Does this make me a middle class merc? :/
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Meknow Intaki
88
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:33:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Fraceska wrote:Total reset to 0 with new content and everything that was promised? I would be okay with that. Yeah, no. "So you spent money on this game? RESET LOL!" You can't even just refund the stuff, because things like BPOs aren't straight refund material. Aside from that, there's the fact that some people have been working on their characters for over a year. Resetting that is seriously bullshit, sorry. very very bad idea
I was just talking ISK reset only, you would keep your skill points..
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
388
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:33:00 -
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yeah the proto-stomper problem is all district locking related
pc is crap anyway ccp should just shut it down and re-design it pc was stupid to release before pve in the first place wtf would they have a crapazz version of skirmish as the mode for pc when we all know that true pc will be fouht across the entire 5km by 5km map when the get the shlt in order and actually start following the damn roadmap or get some properly motivated people working on this game |
Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
511
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:34:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote: 1. Why would we have two of the same systems. Furthermore, I will always fight for victory! No matter the cost; no matter the opponent. For the glory of NF! (Salutes NF Flag) 2. Your Tier system will only add more Que time to an already strained playerbase.. There is no such thing as a good fight in Public match. 3. Glad we agree on something
1 & 2. There needs to be some factor involved that allows for pro suits to be used by those who can afford them have the SP for them. And those who do not. The only way to do both is separate them in some fashion.
3. Indeed.
As to my other comment about the reset? I've invested real money, I've played since open beta. There should be some compensation for sponsoring the game at point. Discounted market place, increase SP rate (not to much to overshadow anyone else) or some other tangible benefit.
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Meknow Intaki
88
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:35:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Does this make me a middle class merc? :/
I'm upper middle class I think, I got money but not enough to run proto everyday  |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles.
Renegade Alliance
4332
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:38:00 -
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I love my broken isk income from PC :D
GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢
Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà
Forum Warrior LV. 5 | Warframe is awesome! | PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
511
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Posted - 2014.02.28 23:39:00 -
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I could run pro every day but being as that I don't have a corp I won't waste my efforts on blues so they get my much cheaper adv fitting logi. |
The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.03.01 00:49:00 -
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Meknow Intaki wrote:I was playing some games the other night and half the people I was playing with we're filthy rich going full proto every round well the other half could barly run basic?!
Did something go wrong along the way or is this how CCP planed it?!
Billionaires Vs. The Poor
I've given away close to a billion since the game started. I have tons of BPO's. Lvl 5 core skills make starter fits OP. That and 35mill sp.
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