DUST Search - Why are the rich so Rich & the poor so Poor?!

Poncho Polous wrote:

I dont think anyone has a problem with players getting rich the right way by conserving and creating smart fittings, but when people are locking districts to farm more ISK than they could ever spend, it gets ridiculous.

Nyain San currently holds 61 districts, lets do some quick mental math here - 80 clones a day per district, 80 clones sell for 8.8M ISK, if all districts remain uncontested for one day that's 61 x 8.8M = 536,800,000 ISK for one days income. now do that for a few months and tell me your worried about losing your 5 or 10 proto suits in a match.

And though the fault is on CCP's hands for ever allowing this situation to take place in the first place, we are now left with a small fraction of the players in the game making so much money that they can just pay the top players to ring for them and make it nearly impossible to compete in any real way.

Even if they fix the way ISK made in the game, I still think it would take quite some time for the economy to balance back out of favor of those who have already pocketed their billions during this phase. I suppose I can only hope.


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Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 501	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:47:00 - [1] - Quote I know Dust players that have hundreds of millions of ISK and into the billions, they would have more but the conversion rate between EVE and Dust ISK keeps their "wallets" low, it's not really a wallet at that point and more like a freaking vault. They play Dust and farm ISK to have free Eve accounts thanks to plex. Fair much?
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 501	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:51:00 - [2] - Quote This is my greatest source of contention. They can in a F2P game exploit the game enough to garner enough ISK to fund multiple people with ISK to pay for their Eve accounts in one month? A plex can go for 350-450 million ISK depending on region. So while the rest of us have to pay real money or mine like mad on multiple industrial accounts to play Eve for nothing? They really really need to fix that.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 501	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:28:00 - [3] - Quote Poncho Polous wrote: I dont think anyone has a problem with players getting rich the right way by conserving and creating smart fittings, but when people are locking districts to farm more ISK than they could ever spend, it gets ridiculous. Nyain San currently holds 61 districts, lets do some quick mental math here - 80 clones a day per district, 80 clones sell for 8.8M ISK, if all districts remain uncontested for one day that's 61 x 8.8M = 536,800,000 ISK for one days income. now do that for a few months and tell me your worried about losing your 5 or 10 proto suits in a match. And though the fault is on CCP's hands for ever allowing this situation to take place in the first place, we are now left with a small fraction of the players in the game making so much money that they can just pay the top players to ring for them and make it nearly impossible to compete in any real way. Even if they fix the way ISK made in the game, I still think it would take quite some time for the economy to balance back out of favor of those who have already pocketed their billions during this phase. I suppose I can only hope. One Plex in a single day in the highest region for a Plex. In a F2P game. They need to adjust that immediately.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:32:00 - [4] - Quote It is the exploitation of a glitch that concerns me when they are able to take a F2P game and turn it into a game that most of 500,000 people on Eve pay for. That is where I draw the line. Pubstomping would stop if you linked match making to meta levels, the only way to eliminate all factors of gear and bring it back to just skill of those involved. Want to run proto join the proto match making, same for adv/std/militia lower rewards for the lower tiers. Everyone wins.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:34:00 - [5] - Quote For your playing the game for competition and fun then you would be in support of a split in the tier/meta system. If you're in it for the lulz and want a quick victory then of course you would be opposed to anything that diminishes the chance of an even fight once gear is made equal to all others in the match.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:37:00 - [6] - Quote Ronan Elsword wrote: The fact that CCP hasn't halted all PC income and locked all districts until the problem is fixed is just another sign of how few fluxes they give. As I said it's BoB all over again.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 22:44:00 - [7] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: @ The angry mob ready to witchhunt PC players Is the general anger here because PC Corporations are able to PubStomp in full Proto Gear, and because you run pubs, you're unable to afford Proto 24/7? Guess its a really hard question Pretty sure I answered your question in both of my posts. Would you run full pro if the system only put you in matches were the other team was going to run full pro? You are playing this for a fair competition right, a game of skill with friends? Or do you do it for the lulz and not care for the overall experience. Seems pretty straight forward to answer.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:09:00 - [8] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: 1. (*ReGnUm'S eyes lights up with excitement) But good sir, I already play in a system that you have suggested... it is called PC. To which I refer in a non-PC match if the system put you just with other Pro suits were victory was not certain would you run pro suits all of the time? ReGnYuM wrote: 2. I love them dem good fights. Furthermore, the plural form of friends does not fit me. I have only one friend and he is the Baby-Slayer. Then you would support the tier/meta split to ensure "dem good fights" are preserved? ReGnYuM wrote: 3. I very do much care! Spaceman and spaceships is serious business! Vry srs bsns
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 509	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:18:00 - [9] - Quote Total reset to 0 with new content and everything that was promised? I would be okay with that.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 511	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:34:00 - [10] - Quote ReGnYuM wrote: 1. Why would we have two of the same systems. Furthermore, I will always fight for victory! No matter the cost; no matter the opponent. For the glory of NF! (Salutes NF Flag) 2. Your Tier system will only add more Que time to an already strained playerbase.. There is no such thing as a good fight in Public match. 3. Glad we agree on something 1 & 2. There needs to be some factor involved that allows for pro suits to be used by those who can afford them have the SP for them. And those who do not. The only way to do both is separate them in some fashion. 3. Indeed. As to my other comment about the reset? I've invested real money, I've played since open beta. There should be some compensation for sponsoring the game at point. Discounted market place, increase SP rate (not to much to overshadow anyone else) or some other tangible benefit.

Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 511	Posted - 2014.02.28 23:39:00 - [11] - Quote I could run pro every day but being as that I don't have a corp I won't waste my efforts on blues so they get my much cheaper adv fitting logi.