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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6898	Posted - 2014.02.28 14:58:00 - [1] - Quote Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
ALT2 acc 162	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:00:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. CCP plz fix kthnxbye Nope heavy buff in 1.8 Cal heavy UP Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 1994	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:01:00 - [3] - Quote this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks.
Knight Solitaire Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 395	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:02:00 - [4] - Quote At least have it removed for Low-Sec battles, there is one point in the SRL facility in which it is incredibly difficult to get the hack on because whoever spawns on the point gets spawned right behind you while you're hacking the console, with their gun pointed at your back. Corporation: Fatal Absolution Alliance: General Tso's Alliance
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6898	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:03:00 - [5] - Quote calisk galern wrote: this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks. Well, uplinks we can destroy. A point we need to take, by making ourselves vulnerable to invisible invincible people. Oh and those people have 1500eHP and 900 DPS doom machines, so even if they weren't invisible or invincible, we still couldn't kill them fast enough before they kill the hackers. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 105	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:07:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye I have to agree my feline friend; I find it aggravating that I can fight my a** off killing one or more good heavy, usually using lesser gear then my opponents, only to have them respawning before I can finish the hack and being easily wiped out reguardless if i have squad support. P.S Have a like and some tuna. Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6900	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:08:00 - [7] - Quote Nosid Katona wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye I have to agree my feline friend; I find it aggravating that I can fight my a** off killing one or more good heavy, usually using lesser gear then my opponents, only to have them respawning before I can finish the hack and being easily wiped out reguardless if i have squad support. P.S Have a like and some tuna. meow This human understands my pain Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC Intara Direct Action Caldari State 393	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:13:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: calisk galern wrote: this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks. Well, uplinks we can destroy. A point we need to take, by making ourselves vulnerable to invisible invincible people. Oh and those people have 1500eHP and 900 DPS doom machines, so even if they weren't invisible or invincible, we still couldn't kill them fast enough before they kill the hackers. Thats part of the game, you want point defense mechanics changed and thats why heavies are here.... News flash Cat its not, supposed to be easy....
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6900	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:15:00 - [9] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: calisk galern wrote: this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks. Well, uplinks we can destroy. A point we need to take, by making ourselves vulnerable to invisible invincible people. Oh and those people have 1500eHP and 900 DPS doom machines, so even if they weren't invisible or invincible, we still couldn't kill them fast enough before they kill the hackers. Thats part of the game, you want point defense mechanics changed and thats why heavies are here.... News flash Cat its not, supposed to be easy.... Uhh... Do I really need to explain what's wrong with what you just said? Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1335	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:20:00 - [10] - Quote Play ambush, problem solved. Who wants some?

ALT2 acc 162	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:22:00 - [11] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Play ambush, problem solved. Now another problem... Hater attractor proficiency 5, hater attractor optimization 5.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6902	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:25:00 - [12] - Quote Darken-Soul wrote: Play ambush, problem solved. So... Replace heavies with tanks? D: Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 107	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:28:00 - [13] - Quote INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: calisk galern wrote: this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks. Well, uplinks we can destroy. A point we need to take, by making ourselves vulnerable to invisible invincible people. Oh and those people have 1500eHP and 900 DPS doom machines, so even if they weren't invisible or invincible, we still couldn't kill them fast enough before they kill the hackers. Thats part of the game, you want point defense mechanics changed and thats why heavies are here.... News flash Cat its not, supposed to be easy.... So let's just ignore the fact that said heavy ALREADY FAILED to defend said point... The spawn mechanic is broken, not the fact that heavies can do it but ANY suit can. Cat Merc is just expressing how much more aggravating it is when it is a heavy because of the large HP pool you have to fight through, assuming you survive the HMG to the back. Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 1336	Posted - 2014.02.28 15:31:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Darken-Soul wrote: Play ambush, problem solved. So... Replace heavies with tanks? D: you will be praying for heavies camping you. Who wants some?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6902	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:03:00 - [15] - Quote Nosid Katona wrote: INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: calisk galern wrote: this is why uplinks are the most powerful equipment in the game. uplinks win games, no debating that fact, with them you win, without you lose. so I usually laugh when people complain about RE's and scanners, and other things, simply because they don't hold a candle to uplinks. Well, uplinks we can destroy. A point we need to take, by making ourselves vulnerable to invisible invincible people. Oh and those people have 1500eHP and 900 DPS doom machines, so even if they weren't invisible or invincible, we still couldn't kill them fast enough before they kill the hackers. Thats part of the game, you want point defense mechanics changed and thats why heavies are here.... News flash Cat its not, supposed to be easy.... So let's just ignore the fact that said heavy ALREADY FAILED to defend said point... The spawn mechanic is broken, not the fact that heavies can do it but ANY suit can. Cat Merc is just expressing how much more aggravating it is when it is a heavy because of the large HP pool you have to fight through, assuming you survive the HMG to the back. Good human Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6978	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:29:00 - [16] - Quote I've been saying for awhile that spawn on point shouldn't exist. You either capture a CRU nearby objectives or place uplinks nearby objectives. Basically like Domination, but in Skirmish. If you can't defend those secondary objectives then prepare to lose your primary objective. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 698	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:35:00 - [17] - Quote The carebear spawn on point mechanic should not exist. It is like handholding, but for an entire team. Normally, I'd expand further, but the last time that happened, people "attacked" me, told me to go play CoD, to stop being "entitled" and other such babble.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1288	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:41:00 - [18] - Quote I concur entirely. It's a terrible mechanic. Domination does fine without it and it convinces even idiot blueberries to bring uplinks (sometimes). It would be a simple change to remove it from skirmish too. I usually solve this with my min logi speed-hacking the point, but that's getting taken away from me in 1.8, so I don't know what I'll do after that.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1732	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:42:00 - [19] - Quote Hmg's can kill you before they uncloack. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
noob cavman The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR. 712	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:50:00 - [20] - Quote Thats why I let blue berries hack and surround the bugger with remotes. I will defend you my little sour berry! I want to be a caveman! Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK British ninja cowboy scout, logi, heavy

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6983	Posted - 2014.02.28 16:59:00 - [21] - Quote And even if CCP wishes to keep this feature, which they shouldn't, they should at least reconsider where spawn-on-point actually spawns you. In some cases like the hack terminal on the high platform on the Gallente Research Facility it literally spawns you within reaching distance of the hack terminal and facing it. That is way too damn close. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Dauth Jenkins Ultramarine Corp 104	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:02:00 - [22] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye Well, CCP added this feature a while back, called nanohives, and they give you ammo. Also, Teamwork is the ultimate weapon. Use it. Sees prototompers... Sees blueberries start to snipe... Pulls out commando suit with laser rifle and swarm launcher...
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries General Tso's Alliance 6909	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:04:00 - [23] - Quote Dauth Jenkins wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye Well, CCP added this feature a while back, called nanohives, and they give you ammo. Also, Teamwork is the ultimate weapon. Use it. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3650	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:06:00 - [24] - Quote What I hate is fluxing and uplink therefore destroying it, and then being able to count 1...2...3... and lo and behold someone will spawn on an uplink that is NO LONGER THERE. Same thing happens when hacking objectives - get the hack off - 1...2...3... someone spawns - me - OMFGWTFBBQ. Now when I attempt to spawn on a link that has been destroyed...nope can't spawn there, uplink lost. This game is seriously gonna cause me to have a stroke one day. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6985	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:15:00 - [25] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What I hate is fluxing and uplink therefore destroying it, and then being able to count 1...2...3... and lo and behold someone will spawn on an uplink that is NO LONGER THERE. Same thing happens when hacking objectives - get the hack off - 1...2...3... someone spawns - me - OMFGWTFBBQ. Now when I attempt to spawn on a link that has been destroyed...nope can't spawn there, uplink lost. This game is seriously gonna cause me to have a stroke one day. It's actually because you are invisible for about 3 seconds after you spawn. So you through a flux grenade, someone spawns in, flux grenade goes off and destroys uplink, and three seconds later the guy who spawned before the uplink was destroyed becomes visible. You can do this too. When you spawn in simply don't move (well you can spin in place, but that's it). No one will be able to see you. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3651	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:18:00 - [26] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: What I hate is fluxing and uplink therefore destroying it, and then being able to count 1...2...3... and lo and behold someone will spawn on an uplink that is NO LONGER THERE. Same thing happens when hacking objectives - get the hack off - 1...2...3... someone spawns - me - OMFGWTFBBQ. Now when I attempt to spawn on a link that has been destroyed...nope can't spawn there, uplink lost. This game is seriously gonna cause me to have a stroke one day. It's actually because you are invisible for about 3 seconds after you spawn. So you through a flux grenade, someone spawns in, flux grenade goes off and destroys uplink, and three seconds later the guy who spawned before the uplink was destroyed becomes visible. You can do this too. When you spawn in simply don't move (well you can spin in place, but that's it). No one will be able to see you. If this is what the cloak in 1.8 is going to be like maximum T_T is inbound. I could list the ways how we Amarr are better than you, but your lesser mind wouldn't comprehend it.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2132	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:25:00 - [27] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What I hate is fluxing and uplink therefore destroying it, and then being able to count 1...2...3... and lo and behold someone will spawn on an uplink that is NO LONGER THERE. Same thing happens when hacking objectives - get the hack off - 1...2...3... someone spawns - me - OMFGWTFBBQ. Now when I attempt to spawn on a link that has been destroyed...nope can't spawn there, uplink lost. This game is seriously gonna cause me to have a stroke one day. This happens sometimes due to a lag in the spawn. I have spawned in on an uplink 3..2..1..0..0..0..0..0..0GÇª0 okay now I am spawned I agree that this needs to be fixed As well as what Cat Merc is describing. Personally I will often chose the uplink option over the Objective as a spawn point (most often my own because I know it's not in a ridiculous place) When taking a point you can go through a lot of resources just to take a point, only to have your enemies return fresh and full. I have a pretty high hack speed, but this only mitigates the problem if you can kill all the defenders in rapid succession. My only concern with the full removal of the spawn on point mechanic would be turning every point into the hundred metre radius of a Dom match. Uplink spam would likely be the outcome of this change, though some may not view this as bad. I prefer to be able to clearly identify the uplink that I want to spawn on and maintain some semblance of reasonable frame rate. What would people think of an increased spawn time on Objectives? Say 20 seconds, would that be reasonable, or would the potential uplink spam be considered a reasonable result of eliminating Objective spawns? KRRROOOOOOM
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6988	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:26:00 - [28] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: What I hate is fluxing and uplink therefore destroying it, and then being able to count 1...2...3... and lo and behold someone will spawn on an uplink that is NO LONGER THERE. Same thing happens when hacking objectives - get the hack off - 1...2...3... someone spawns - me - OMFGWTFBBQ. Now when I attempt to spawn on a link that has been destroyed...nope can't spawn there, uplink lost. This game is seriously gonna cause me to have a stroke one day. It's actually because you are invisible for about 3 seconds after you spawn. So you through a flux grenade, someone spawns in, flux grenade goes off and destroys uplink, and three seconds later the guy who spawned before the uplink was destroyed becomes visible. You can do this too. When you spawn in simply don't move (well you can spin in place, but that's it). No one will be able to see you. If this is what the cloak in 1.8 is going to be like maximum T_T is inbound. I highly doubt it as you're thinking. Actually a few days ago I was playing a match and I actually stumbled upon someone moving out of his spawn point but for a split second he was still cloaked, however not completely invisible. You could see his body outline along the visual distortion. Man I wish I could of recorded that, it was very weird. That's my guess for what it's going to be. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2931	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:26:00 - [29] - Quote Spawn on objective is a game crippling mechanic. What the hell are CRUs supposed to be for when you can simply teleport sans uplink? Why bother with uplinks when you own the point? It removes what little strategy there is in the game and reduces it to a simple question of your DPS vs. my DPS. It's like CCP wants DUST to be as brain dead easy to play as possible. No strategy or tactics required.
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 188	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:36:00 - [30] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Thanks to the heavy spam, I now seriously hate the spawn on point mechanic. Finally kill a wave of heavies? Well because of all their HP, by the time you brought them all down the next wave has already spawned. Every fight turns into a perpetual struggle to get that point, it only ends when we're out of ammo or the enemy is out of clones. That's with a full squad btw CCP plz fix kthnxbye lol the heavy event is there to counter tank spam go QQ in the war room adapt or cry elsewhere Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA



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