Awry Barux wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

You guys caught many of his mistakes, but did anyone remember to factor in the stacking penalties for equipping four armor plates?

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that 135 is the correct value for armor plate it would be:
135 + 117 + 77 + 38 = 367
Not
135 x 4 = 540

Fox you disappoint me greatly. HP modules do not have stacking penalties. Are you trolling?

Asha: The correct way is to multiply percentages, i.e. Base armor EHP vs explosives = Base armor * 1.25 * 0.8.

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Awry Barux wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

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has anybody else looked at the patch notes for 1.8 (work in progress)

i did some number crunching and the gallante heavy has a rather large amount of hitpoints

base hitpoints= 940

3 x complex armor plates 135x4= 540

1 x complex shield extender =66

sub total= 1,546

plus ARMOUR ans shield SKILLS bonus= 50% bounus 1,546=


TOTAL HITPOINTS= 2,319

PLUS A RESISTANCE BONUS= 15% vs railgun tech

TOTAL MAXIMUM POSSIBLE EFFECTIVE HITPOINTS= 2,650.....

isnt that a little too much? thats more than a dropship...

have mercy on the poor caldari souls who would go up against 16 of these bohemoths!!! i think SHIELD vs ARMOUR needs to be balanced once more.

Considering everything melts armor far easier than shield, I think that's fine. I use the Gal Logi, so I know.

I also use the basic heavy plenty, and see a huge difference between how difficult it is to take down armor vs shields.

Spkr, swallowing this sad excuse for math only proves that either a. you don't read and think before you speak or b. you're too dumb to understand basic math or c. you have no grasp of this game's infantry mechanics.

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Awry Barux wrote:

Asha Starwind wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

You guys caught many of his mistakes, but did anyone remember to factor in the stacking penalties for equipping four armor plates?

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that 135 is the correct value for armor plate it would be:
135 + 117 + 77 + 38 = 367
Not
135 x 4 = 540

Fox you disappoint me greatly. HP modules do not have stacking penalties. Are you trolling?

Asha: The correct way is to multiply percentages, i.e. Base armor EHP vs explosives = Base armor * 1.25 * 0.8.

I did at first but felt that the numbers were screwy, my logic at the time a 10% resist didn't cancel a 10% damage bonus and they weren't off by that much, a couple tens at the most.

The resist is actually slightly more effective for having been multiplied in. Let's say it's a blaster vs shields (10% bonus) against an amarr sentinel (10% blaster resist to shields), with a base blaster damage of 100/hit. Damage before resist = 110, after resist = 110 - (110*.1) = 99. You're right that it's a very small difference, but I've survived with 0 shield and 0 armor enough times to appreciate the tiny differences.

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Awry Barux wrote:

Fox Gaden wrote:

You guys caught many of his mistakes, but did anyone remember to factor in the stacking penalties for equipping four armor plates?

Assuming, for the sake of argument, that 135 is the correct value for armor plate it would be:
135 + 117 + 77 + 38 = 367
Not
135 x 4 = 540

Fox you disappoint me greatly. HP modules do not have stacking penalties. Are you trolling?

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Awry Barux wrote:

Asha Starwind wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

Asha Starwind wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

Fox you disappoint me greatly. HP modules do not have stacking penalties. Are you trolling?

Asha: The correct way is to multiply percentages, i.e. Base armor EHP vs explosives = Base armor * 1.25 * 0.8.

I did at first but felt that the numbers were screwy, my logic at the time a 10% resist didn't cancel a 10% damage bonus and they weren't off by that much, a couple tens at the most.

The resist is actually slightly more effective for having been multiplied in. Let's say it's a blaster vs shields (10% bonus) against an amarr sentinel (10% blaster resist to shields), with a base blaster damage of 100/hit. Damage before resist = 110, after resist = 110 - (110*.1) = 99. You're right that it's a very small difference, but I've survived with 0 shield and 0 armor enough times to appreciate the tiny differences.

But see that's what doesn't sit well with me. How I see it is that (.8) isn't acting on the shields/armor(x) but the incoming projectile(y)

500hp = xhp*b
500hp = yhp*a

xhp*a - yhp*b = 0

set y = x, for illustrative purposes

and it becomes xhp*(a-b)

Hmm, I see what you're saying. Now I'm unsure.
I wish the devs would clarify this sort of thing

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