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Jade Dragonis GRIM MARCH D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 295	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:18:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone make a post with the same above title. Till we get a dev blog. Folloe me on Youtube
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR TCD ToXiCaTeD RISE of LEGION 1519	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:19:00 - [2] - Quote no. there's no reason to spam CCP. the Dev Blog is coming out sometime next week or the week after that. you're welcome. Anime > EVERYTHING
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2380	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:22:00 - [3] - Quote More likely a ban for spamming the fourms "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ripley Riley 652	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:24:00 - [4] - Quote CCP Saberwing wrote: We should have a devblog out to you guys sometime before 2015... at the VERY LATEST Q1 2016. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Musta Tornius Black Phoenix Mercenaries 1072	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:28:00 - [5] - Quote I've heard from a credible sauce that if you send ccp isk in the increments of 10 mill then the time it takes to get a dev blog out decreases by 1 h each time so start sending and now backwards sdrawkcab won dna gnidnes trats os emit hcae h 1 yb sesaerced tuo golb ved a teg ot sekat ti emit eht neht llim 01 fo stnemercni eht ni ksi pcc dnes uoy fi taht ecuas elbiderc a morf draeh ev'I I've heard from a credible sauce that if you send ccp isk in the increments of 10 mill then the time it takes to get a dev blog out decreases by 1 h each time so start sending and now backwards sdrawkcab won dna gnidnes trats os emit hcae h 1 yb sesaerced tuo golb ved a teg ot sekat ti emit eht neht llim 01 fo stnemercni eht ni ksi pcc dnes uoy fi taht ecuas elbiderc a morf draeh ev'I DUST514 Weapon Range & Information Team Fairy DUST

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5166	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:35:00 - [6] - Quote There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Ripley Riley 654	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:37:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. Can we at least know what they will be about? Pleeease? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Rogue Saint Science For Death 970	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:39:00 - [8] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. Can we at least know what they will be about? Pleeease? Things that will be added in 1.8? Amirite? GôêGÆ+GÆ+GÆ¦ - Causes headaches, it's official +1 for Infantry Skills Refund in 1.8 or I win DUST514
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1808	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:41:00 - [9] - Quote Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 290	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:44:00 - [10] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will.

Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7018	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:45:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. Can you at least tell us how the Hamsters are doing? Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7018	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:46:00 - [12] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important ** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**
ALT2 acc 123	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:46:00 - [13] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. Can you at least tell us how the Hamsters are doing? CLEAR............CLEAR, he's gone... Banned until the 10th Reason: I said "feg" I lol'd so dammed hard, it's not even funny, oh wait, yes it is.
Heimdallr69 Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1691	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:47:00 - [14] - Quote Mofo, I thought there was a dev blog. I am disappointed in you. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Ripley Riley 655	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:48:00 - [15] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. I hate it when people that pay me money have reasonable expectations of me too. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Justicar Karnellia Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 697	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:49:00 - [16] - Quote I'm guessing there won't be much from team true grit or anything by CCP Logicloop. RIP Logicloop. :(
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7021	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:55:00 - [17] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. I hate it when people that pay me money have reasonable expectations of me too. You don't get it. You have a right to complain, but there is a fine line between filing a complaint and just outright bothering the devs. What the OP suggests is bothering the devs when clearly they already know what we want. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Ripley Riley 657	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:58:00 - [18] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: You don't get it. You have a right to complain, but there is a fine line between filing a complaint and just outright bothering the devs. What the OP suggests is bothering the devs when clearly they already know what we want. When customers are upset they complain. When they are very upset they will complain louder or stop giving their business to the company in question. I'll leave it up to CCP: would you like the players to be loud and demanding or would you like us to disappear? "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7021	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:59:00 - [19] - Quote Overall, I'm just glad that the Dust community isn't as bad as the Call of Duty community. I remember reading the news some time ago in which one of the devs for CoD changed the stats on one of the tactical rifles for rebalancing purposes but then later on his Twitter account was bombarded by a massive flood of angry players actually threatening the poor man's life and family with ** and murder. It was all over *** Twitter. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1808	Posted - 2014.02.26 16:59:00 - [20] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. I hate it when people that pay me money have reasonable expectations of me too. You CHOOSE to pay them money. This game was COMPLETELY FREE, unless you really wanted to pay them. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?

Ripley Riley 659	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:01:00 - [21] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: You CHOOSE to pay them money. This game was COMPLETELY FREE, unless you really wanted to pay them. I have paid them. If they want continued business: see the post you replied to. Maken Tosch wrote: Overall, I'm just glad that the Dust community isn't as bad as the Call of Duty community. I remember reading the news some time ago in which one of the devs for CoD changed the stats on one of the tactical rifles for rebalancing purposes but then later on his Twitter account was bombarded by a massive flood of angry players actually threatening the poor man's life and family with ** and murder. It was all over ***** Twitter. That is insane... let's all take a moment to be glad we aren't CoD players. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1808	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:02:00 - [22] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. I'm not. I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad. Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job? Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Ripley Riley 659	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:04:00 - [23] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 236	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:06:00 - [24] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. If they would tell us more than Soon, or silence, we wouldnt be assholes. They seem to take for granted our presence and treat us like sheep. We wont be around forever. I used to love this game and recommended it to everyone. Now, I barely play. If it wasnt for the login sp, I wouldnt even do that. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:09:00 - [25] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. I'm not. I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad. Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job? Hahahaha! "labor of love"? That's rich. You really think they don't get paid?
Akdhar Saif Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 340	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:09:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. Please no more "Concept Art". If it is of something that's going to be released than fine but please don't dedicate entire Dev Blogs to showcasing a single asset thats already ingame.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7025	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:09:00 - [27] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:12:00 - [28] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. Yes, but is they company getting anything from the majority of the player? No. The company, which is paying them gets probably very little from you people. So acting entitled to being a douche, when your putting pennies in their paycheck and then expecting them to bow to your wishes because of the few pennies you gave them is stupid. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:13:00 - [29] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. I'm not. I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad. Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job? Hahahaha! "labor of love"? That's rich. You really think they don't get paid? And hw mcuh are you paying them? Hell, EVE players would have more stay if we went off how much money you pay, and Half of them want DUST to be Cancelled. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Ripley Riley 662	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:13:00 - [30] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no idea to blame but myself. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley

Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:15:00 - [31] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. Yes, but is they company getting anything from the majority of the player? No. The company, which is paying them gets probably very little from you people. So acting entitled to being a douche, when your putting pennies in their paycheck and then expecting them to bow to your wishes because of the few pennies you gave them is stupid. Yeah, it's all just charity on ccp's part...
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7025	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:15:00 - [32] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. Assuming that's company policy. But this is CCP we're talking here. Saying "Soon" IS THEIR COMPANY POLICY! Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:17:00 - [33] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. I'm not. I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad. Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job? Hahahaha! "labor of love"? That's rich. You really think they don't get paid? And hw mcuh are you paying them? Hell, EVE players would have more stay if we went off how much money you pay, and Half of them want DUST to be Cancelled. Used to be an eve player for years. I've also bought the elite game pack. And buy aurum each month. So im entitled thank you very much.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:18:00 - [34] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. Yes, but is they company getting anything from the majority of the player? No. The company, which is paying them gets probably very little from you people. So acting entitled to being a douche, when your putting pennies in their paycheck and then expecting them to bow to your wishes because of the few pennies you gave them is stupid. Yeah, it's all just charity on ccp's part... Yeah. For the Majority, It is. Probably 90% of the people in the Game are Not paying a penny. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Ripley Riley 662	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:18:00 - [35] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Assuming that's company policy. But this is CCP we're talking here. Saying "Soon" IS THEIR COMPANY POLICY! Not seeing your point on this one. They can continue to develop on their timelines (Soon(TM)), but we need to be updated more often if they are going to take their sweet time. If a project takes three months you don't just leave your customers in the dark during that time. That's a ****** policy, I don't care what your company policies might have been until now. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:19:00 - [36] - Quote Leonid Tybalt wrote: Used to be an eve player for years. I've also bought the elite game pack. And buy aurum each month. So im entitled thank you very much. Ah, so your opinion is worth more then mine because money? Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Leonid Tybalt Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 272	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:20:00 - [37] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Leonid Tybalt wrote: Used to be an eve player for years. I've also bought the elite game pack. And buy aurum each month. So im entitled thank you very much. Ah, so your opinion is worth more then mine because money? Of course it is. I contribute financially to this games development. You contribute nothing but hot air. :)
Ripley Riley 663	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:21:00 - [38] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Ah, so your opinion is worth more then mine because money? Technically, from a business POV, yes. A paying customer is more valuable than a customer that isn't paying. As a business owner, I would pay closer attention to the person shelling out $20/month than the person paying me $0/month. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
RailTank QQ SAM-MIK 17	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:21:00 - [39] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? Work in manufacturing, your patience with this kind of 'development' will be longer than prolly anyone else you'll meet. This is why they give us SOON and crap like that, because they most likely either don't know, or don't want to deal with the poopstorm we've been known to unleash at the drop of a hat about anything. Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Soldner's in exile after calling for a riot and getting BANANA'ed.
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 573	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:24:00 - [40] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. First, why do people like posts like this? Makes me shake my head. Second, I honestly could care less about dev blogs, just look at the last one they just gave us for the quality we are going to get. The real issue is that the dev blogs are supposed to come out a few weeks before the release. Given it's Feb 26th and last ETA was mid February to mid March I'm definitely concerned about the next release. I truly can not stand the horrible state that CCP has left this build in for the last 3 months. I'll say this, it might not be the real developers fault (hell, there could just be a couple of them actually doing work) but blame should definitely be placed on the design team (balance the ** you make) and on management for limiting the transparency that CCP gives to us poor sods in the community. The mic bubble bug...** I yield, CCP will be fixing it SOON. Current ETA 1 year since bug

Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:24:00 - [41] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Assuming that's company policy. But this is CCP we're talking here. Saying "Soon" IS THEIR COMPANY POLICY! Not seeing your point on this one. They can continue to develop on their timelines (Soon(TM)), but we need to be updated more often if they are going to take their sweet time. If a project takes three months you don't just leave your customers in the dark during that time. That's a **** policy, I don't care what your company policies might have been until now. And saying "You'll have it in 3 Months" and failing on the deadline because bugs and QA and Code-Monkeying just make the forums even more toxic then not letting you know. If your a Community Manager, I think you would prefer the forums as least acidic as possible. Hey, think about it like this. If you stop freaking the ** out and raging and spamming hate threads about when they mess a thing up, then maybe they might think about letting you know a timeline. But if that continues, I seriously think your just going to get the same answer over and over. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:26:00 - [42] - Quote RailTank QQ wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? Work in manufacturing, your patience with this kind of 'development' will be longer than prolly anyone else you'll meet. This is why they give us SOON and crap like that, because they most likely either don't know, or don't want to deal with the poopstorm we've been known to unleash at the drop of a hat about anything. Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Ex-*******-actly Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Ripley Riley 663	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:26:00 - [43] - Quote RailTank QQ wrote: Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? The customer would be upset, yes. Build risk buffers into your project plan. Parts might be late? Add two days. Mechanical failure? Add a week. If you deliver earlier than the projected date no one will be upset. (This is project planning 101, by the way) RailTank QQ wrote: Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Agreed. They need more staff. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:30:00 - [44] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: RailTank QQ wrote: Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? The customer would be upset, yes. Build risk buffers into your project plan. Parts might be late? Add two days. Mechanical failure? Add a week. If you deliver earlier than the projected date no one will be upset. (This is project planning 101, by the way) RailTank QQ wrote: Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Agreed. They need more staff. And then you guys throw a hissy-fit over the long ass time of development. And I do hope they get more staff. But I hear the Chinese Government is hassling the immigration process. 1/4 EVE's manpower is not where you want to be to have a Game that is supposed to be just as important as EVE. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Ripley Riley 664	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:32:00 - [45] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: And then you guys throw a hissy-fit over the long ass time of development. I can't speak for the entire community, but development time isn't my concern. It's not being told jack **** for weeks (months) at a time while being asked to spend AUR on boosters. "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
RailTank QQ SAM-MIK 17	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:33:00 - [46] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: RailTank QQ wrote: Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? The customer would be upset, yes. Build risk buffers into your project plan. Parts might be late? Add two days. Mechanical failure? Add a week. If you deliver earlier than the projected date no one will be upset. (This is project planning 101, by the way) Good, so you do understand it. The crap part is communication/transparency between us and CCP is....lacking. Because patience and understanding are clearly something we don't have. Which leads to us arguing semantics on the eff'in forums. I agree that this 'mums the word' de facto policy has got to go, but I understand why spamming the forums for info is bad (read signature) so I'll just smile and nod, like the rest of us end up doing. And wait. And wait. And omg, PLAY THE GAME. And wait. Does waiting suck? Yes Should we be waiting? prolly not. Is that going to change? not until they get some work done. Woof. Soldner's in exile after calling for a riot and getting BANANA'ed.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1810	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:39:00 - [47] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: And then you guys throw a hissy-fit over the long ass time of development. I can't speak for the entire community, but development time isn't my concern. It's not being told jack **** for weeks (months) at a time while being asked to spend AUR on boosters. Well, a lot of people do, and they just end up wasteing the time of Community Devs, who could be updating that timeframe as needed. And I think everybody hates those ads. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7027	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:40:00 - [48] - Quote RailTank QQ wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? Work in manufacturing, your patience with this kind of 'development' will be longer than prolly anyone else you'll meet. This is why they give us SOON and crap like that, because they most likely either don't know, or don't want to deal with the poopstorm we've been known to unleash at the drop of a hat about anything. Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Exactly. I use to work for a manufacturing company as a parts procurement guy. Those parts were for building missiles and satellites in Brazil. Often times, despite management telling me to hurry the frakk up, I had to tell management something to the effect of the following every now and then even for a part that's on rush. "Sorry, but the chip we need has an estimated lead time of greater than 5 weeks to manufacture even under rush delivery and there are no other sources available (not even from China). That missile is going to have to wait and so will your client." NOTE: When a manufacturer posts an unreasonably long lead time on a part, that's code for "we don't know when it's ready to be honest with you." Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
The Attorney General 2243	Posted - 2014.02.26 17:58:00 - [49] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: NOTE: When a manufacturer posts an unreasonably long lead time on a part, that's code for "we don't know when it's ready to be honest with you." I agree with the content of your post, I just trimmed it for brevity. I do want to respond to this part specifically because I can certainly sympathize with the people who are getting frustrated with the current method of establishing a verbal roadmap. There are many parts of this game that have no timeframe, let alone an unreasonably long one. Without any sort of time reference, it is really difficult to be angry with CCP for not meeting deadlines, simply because there are no deadlines. Not that I am upset about this, I long ago resolved my internal conflicts with the realities of CCPs methods of production. I will say this though: When the only people who are content with the development schedule are people who have essentially given up on this game being good any time soon, that is a horribly caustic environment to create within your community. I am consistently advising people to reduce their expectations of CCP, so as to save themselves the frustration of disappointment. If cynicism is the default in all your long term users, then something is clearly wrong. I feel bad for people who think that this game is going to take some sudden leap forward. That alone should speak volumes, but maybe I am just to much of a skeptic to be a productive member of this community. Tinfoil hat time: CCP does not want to provide any sort of accurate guesstimates for when features may be ready because if portions of this community were to find out that feature x that they are waiting desperately for will not be released for x months/years there might be an exodus of players. Really though, it is just easier and more accurate to blame gross incompetence on the part of the previous EP, and hope that if you give Rouge a couple of more months then we might see a proper set of goals and timelines. That hope is completely irrational, and I do not advice anyone to put anything more than a spec of hope into a solid turn around on this project. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7028	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:25:00 - [50] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: NOTE: When a manufacturer posts an unreasonably long lead time on a part, that's code for "we don't know when it's ready to be honest with you." I agree with the content of your post, I just trimmed it for brevity. I do want to respond to this part specifically because I can certainly sympathize with the people who are getting frustrated with the current method of establishing a verbal roadmap. There are many parts of this game that have no timeframe, let alone an unreasonably long one. Without any sort of time reference, it is really difficult to be angry with CCP for not meeting deadlines, simply because there are no deadlines. Not that I am upset about this, I long ago resolved my internal conflicts with the realities of CCPs methods of production. I will say this though: When the only people who are content with the development schedule are people who have essentially given up on this game being good any time soon, that is a horribly caustic environment to create within your community. I am consistently advising people to reduce their expectations of CCP, so as to save themselves the frustration of disappointment. If cynicism is the default in all your long term users, then something is clearly wrong. I feel bad for people who think that this game is going to take some sudden leap forward. That alone should speak volumes, but maybe I am just to much of a skeptic to be a productive member of this community. Tinfoil hat time: CCP does not want to provide any sort of accurate guesstimates for when features may be ready because if portions of this community were to find out that feature x that they are waiting desperately for will not be released for x months/years there might be an exodus of players. Really though, it is just easier and more accurate to blame gross incompetence on the part of the previous EP, and hope that if you give Rouge a couple of more months then we might see a proper set of goals and timelines. That hope is completely irrational, and I do not advice anyone to put anything more than a spec of hope into a solid turn around on this project. Lowering our expectations is something us Eve Online players have gotten use to. Just look at the captain's quarters for instance. No one knows when CCP will finally open that damn door for once and so far CCP has been pretty mum about it. In fact, many Eve Online players just want that CQ to just shut down and go back to ship spinning for the rest of our lives. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 205	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:27:00 - [51] - Quote Honeslty, I believe 1.8 isn't in a great state with the TTK change. I know if I was them I'd be pulling my hair out trying to get the formula right before I gave some hard numbers. Is there anyway we can nerf the people that get killed to stupidity and blame it on the RR. Surely the CR is way more powerful then the RR! Ugg,, I hate this community but love CCP's vision. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
The Attorney General 2248	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:34:00 - [52] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Lowering our expectations is something us Eve Online players have gotten use to. Just look at the captain's quarters for instance. No one knows when CCP will finally open that damn door for once and so far CCP has been pretty mum about it. In fact, many Eve Online players just want that CQ to just shut down and go back to ship spinning for the rest of our lives. Exactly. It is a problem of culture within CCP, and one that will not be addressed anytime soon. Which is very unfortunate. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7029	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:38:00 - [53] - Quote The Attorney General wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Lowering our expectations is something us Eve Online players have gotten use to. Just look at the captain's quarters for instance. No one knows when CCP will finally open that damn door for once and so far CCP has been pretty mum about it. In fact, many Eve Online players just want that CQ to just shut down and go back to ship spinning for the rest of our lives. Exactly. It is a problem of culture within CCP, and one that will not be addressed anytime soon. Which is very unfortunate. Well, at least it's a hell lot better than EA's culture. Lie to your investors about the profit potential of BF4 and convince them to buy your shares at $60 a piece only to see a hit in profits after release and suffer a share price drop from $60 to $22 a share followed by a complete investigation by a third-party law firm. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
The Attorney General 2251	Posted - 2014.02.26 18:43:00 - [54] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Well, at least it's a hell lot better than EA's culture. Lie to your investors about the profit potential of BF4 and convince them to buy your shares at $60 a piece only to see a hit in profits after release and suffer a share price drop from $60 to $22 a share followed by a complete investigation by a third-party law firm. I can only imagine the office party where someone offers a toast with something along the lines of : "At least we are not the worst! Cheers!" Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1724	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:03:00 - [55] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. If 3000 people constantly asked you a question about the same thing every day you would not be able to work or you would not be able to respond. Pick one not both. Soon doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, if they posted a hard date I would understand but as far as I know they haven't done that. CCP works in their own way so putting your idea of business practices on them isn't going to work. Of course they want you money and yes they want this game to be good. You should just chill out and wait, nothing else you can do. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Master Smurf Nos Nothi 137	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:11:00 - [56] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. If 3000 people constantly asked you a question about the same thing every day you would not be able to work or you would not be able to respond. Pick one not both. Soon doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, if they posted a hard date I would understand but as far as I know they haven't done that. CCP works in their own way so putting your idea of business practices on them isn't going to work. Of course they want you money and yes they want this game to be good. You should just chill out and wait, nothing else you can do. This is incorrect - They hire people to monitor and talk to those 3000 people on progress, changes etc. I am sure those same people sit in meetings and get updated or at least have informal discussions about whats happening. They can then get the go ahead from management to let the 3000 people know what the situation is. Please stop with these misleading characterizations. If CCP wanted to let people know stuff they could. The speed at which they work and produce content is laughable. "Shine bright like a diamond"
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1726	Posted - 2014.02.26 19:38:00 - [57] - Quote Master Smurf wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: I look at it this way... For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. If 3000 people constantly asked you a question about the same thing every day you would not be able to work or you would not be able to respond. Pick one not both. Soon doesn't mean the same thing to everyone, if they posted a hard date I would understand but as far as I know they haven't done that. CCP works in their own way so putting your idea of business practices on them isn't going to work. Of course they want you money and yes they want this game to be good. You should just chill out and wait, nothing else you can do. This is incorrect - They hire people to monitor and talk to those 3000 people on progress, changes etc. I am sure those same people sit in meetings and get updated or at least have informal discussions about whats happening. They can then get the go ahead from management to let the 3000 people know what the situation is. Please stop with these misleading characterizations. If CCP wanted to let people know stuff they could. The speed at which they work and produce content is laughable. CCP hires people to read the forums and give summaries of what was said? Because what I am saying is that if was treated just like we treat them at his job it would be different. Lets say that he has to put together a chair and when he gets to work he has to sit through a meeting telling him what kind of chair to make and then goes to work. After about 30 minutes of building the chair he has to respond to customers or be insulted. More chair work and lunch. Then he has to go sit in another meeting or his customers say he isn't listening to them. Work on the chair some but then he has to go sit in the last version of the chair or the customers say he never uses what he is selling. Try and work on the chair some more only to have to test it in every way conceivable before letting it out the door. All while trying to give exact details on what he is doing and why also while providing an unbreakable timetable. The last person they hired for that, the way I understand it, was let go a while ago. Pretty sure she was supposed to do community stuff. They may have some moderators but I don't think they have a hired staff that goes through all this. I may be wrong but I don't think they hire people for the forums. I don't know what you people want from them. They do things their way because it works for them, get over yourselves and play the stupid game. They listen to our input and try to do their best to deliver the content we want. I can guarantee that within one day of patch notes people will be talking about how broke it is and how they are stupid and don't listen. I will also say that within one day of the actual content release people will be asking for details on the next patch. I think that is a little bit impatient, don't you? It is like taking kids on a long car ride, you guys just wont' STFU and act like big boys. "You people voted for Hubert Humphrey, and you killed Jesus." Raoul Duke
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 291	Posted - 2014.02.26 23:16:00 - [58] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important ** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. So calling the devs out for information is being an *****? Good one. Until the devs give us solid data on a consistent basis and actually try to discuss changes with us (even through the CPM, I don't care what the interface is so long as there is an actual dialogue) I will continue to demand accountability for a game I've paid money for and would like to do again in the future. As it is, I stopped playing after the 'mouse overhaul' ruined my gaming experience and refuse to play without proper mouse support.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7037	Posted - 2014.02.27 00:05:00 - [59] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important ** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. So calling the devs out for information is being an ***? Good one. Until the devs give us solid data on a consistent basis and actually try to discuss changes with us (even through the CPM, I don't care what the interface is so long as there is an actual dialogue) I will continue to demand accountability for a game I've paid money for and would like to do again in the future. As it is, I stopped playing after the 'mouse overhaul' ruined my gaming experience and refuse to play without proper mouse support. You can be critical to CCP if you like. I'm sometimes critical too especially on the nova knives and scout suits, but I don't go out and be a genitalia about it. I post my criticism in the most meaningful and constructive way possible. Just take a look at JudgeRhadamansus' critique on dropships and redline rail tanks. His video on YouTube was so well thought out and detailed that CCP responded to it and said that the video is excellent and being forwarded to the appropriate dev team. Now compare that to a rant or just general douche baggery. Almost no response for those except maybe a lock by the GM. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**
RailTank QQ SAM-MIK 19	Posted - 2014.02.27 05:29:00 - [60] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important ** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. So calling the devs out for information is being an *****? Good one. Until the devs give us solid data on a consistent basis and actually try to discuss changes with us (even through the CPM, I don't care what the interface is so long as there is an actual dialogue) I will continue to demand accountability for a game I've paid money for and would like to do again in the future. As it is, I stopped playing after the 'mouse overhaul' ruined my gaming experience and refuse to play without proper mouse support. You can be critical to CCP if you like. I'm sometimes critical too especially on the nova knives and scout suits, but I don't go out and be a genitalia about it. I post my criticism in the most meaningful and constructive way possible. Just take a look at JudgeRhadamansus' critique on dropships and redline rail tanks. His video on YouTube was so well thought out and detailed that CCP responded to it and said that the video is excellent and being forwarded to the appropriate dev team. Now compare that to a rant or just general douche baggery. Almost no response for those except maybe a lock by the GM. Zyrus is french (yes I didn't capitalize it on purpose), what do you expect? Soldner's in exile after calling for a riot and getting BANANA'ed.

Nirwanda Vaughns Death Firm. 369	Posted - 2014.02.27 06:13:00 - [61] - Quote my guess is March 11th for devblogs with 1.8 releasing march 18th (1.8 get it ) Rolling with the punches
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 691	Posted - 2014.02.27 06:36:00 - [62] - Quote Nirwanda Vaughns wrote: my guess is March 11th for devblogs with 1.8 releasing march 18th (1.8 get it ) Well then we're screwed. We want Dev Blogs so we can see updated stats and give further feedback, not just so we can marvel at their creation. If they come out a week before, which is the same time as patch notes, then the patch is locked. Feedback then falls on deaf ears. Remember after 1.8 we have at LEAST 2 months until a new patch because of fanfest. A poor 1.8 will likely sink the ship even further. You can't have great announcements at fanfest when your game is in a terrible state. CCP needs to get 1.8 right, we as a community WANT to help. Instead we are left out in the cold.
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1344	Posted - 2014.02.27 19:38:00 - [63] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: There will be dev blogs in time, but please don't spam the forums with topics asking for them. We know you want them, we want to give you them, but we don't want to give them to you until they're done and ready. every time theres a dev blog we later hear about all devs being asked what they are doing and then at the last minute two or three things are seleted from the entire pile instead select two or three things from the GET GO instead of at the last minute to make the Dev Blog still waiting for the feedback forum to be organized into specific subforums i.e. weapons , suits, vehicles , etc. thanks Hey CCP get a PS4 client Planetside 2 in June on PS4 Dust Deserters Alliance
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 294	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:42:00 - [64] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Don't be a douche. Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important ** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. So calling the devs out for information is being an *****? Good one. Until the devs give us solid data on a consistent basis and actually try to discuss changes with us (even through the CPM, I don't care what the interface is so long as there is an actual dialogue) I will continue to demand accountability for a game I've paid money for and would like to do again in the future. As it is, I stopped playing after the 'mouse overhaul' ruined my gaming experience and refuse to play without proper mouse support. You can be critical to CCP if you like. I'm sometimes critical too especially on the nova knives and scout suits, but I don't go out and be a genitalia about it. I post my criticism in the most meaningful and constructive way possible. Just take a look at JudgeRhadamansus' critique on dropships and redline rail tanks. His video on YouTube was so well thought out and detailed that CCP responded to it and said that the video is excellent and being forwarded to the appropriate dev team. Now compare that to a rant or just general douche baggery. Almost no response for those except maybe a lock by the GM. Throwing a man a bone for a well-thought out idea is not the same thing as being critical of the process and demanding CCP do better.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 320	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:55:00 - [65] - Quote Maybe we could get a Dev Blog on the process of creating a Dev Blog post? ...This is now day 42 of the 1.8 Dev Blog compilation process, each paragraph has passed all pre-release executive review milestones, and I'm in the process of writing the notice of intent to publish for the final draft! Soon! There will be bullets. ACR+SMG
Ripley Riley 750	Posted - 2014.02.28 17:58:00 - [66] - Quote Luk Manag wrote: Maybe we could get a Dev Blog on the process of creating a Dev Blog post? ...This is now day 42 of the 1.8 Dev Blog compilation process, each paragraph has passed all pre-release executive review milestones, and I'm in the process of writing the notice of intent to publish for the final draft! Soon! "[...]finally buried in soft peat for three months and recycled as firelighters." "I need not food nor water. Your tears alone sustain me." - Ripley Riley
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7091	Posted - 2014.02.28 18:40:00 - [67] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Throwing a man a bone for a well-thought out idea is not the same thing as being critical of the process and demanding CCP do better. Um, I said a well thought out critique, not an idea. Read my post again. What Judge Rhadamanthus posted on the issue with the redline rail tanks is not an idea. It's a well-thought CRITICISM of the problem faced by dropship pilots. If you notice he didn't go out of his way to make any demands. He let the video show the problem first and then made a few recommendations while still keeping the issue front and center but in a professional and concise way. That's how you help CCP develop the game further. Demands however are a completely different animal from constructive criticism. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor


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