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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:41:00 -
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Don't be a douche.
Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:59:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:And this is why the vast majority of developers don't seem to interact very often with their communities. The communities are full of assholes. I hate it when people that pay me money have reasonable expectations of me too.
You CHOOSE to pay them money.
This game was COMPLETELY FREE, unless you really wanted to pay them.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:02:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Don't be a douche.
Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will.
I'm not.
I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad.
Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job?
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:12:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys.
Yes, but is they company getting anything from the majority of the player?
No. The company, which is paying them gets probably very little from you people. So acting entitled to being a douche, when your putting pennies in their paycheck and then expecting them to bow to your wishes because of the few pennies you gave them is stupid.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:13:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Don't be a douche.
Between replying to the shitposts on the forums, and community tickets, and technical support, and then relaying all the important **** to the Devs that are working on the game, the Community Devs don't exactly have a fuckton of time to write a long Dev blog that tells you what you demand. Being a CCP apologist doesn't get them off their ass, keeping their feet to the coals will. I'm not. I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love is just sad. Instead of making doucheposts about why the Dev Blogs aren't being made, why not STFU and not distract them from their job? Hahahaha! "labor of love"? That's rich. You really think they don't get paid? 
And hw mcuh are you paying them?
Hell, EVE players would have more stay if we went off how much money you pay, and Half of them want DUST to be Cancelled.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:18:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I'm saying, being a douchbag to guys who are pretty much doing this out of a labor of love I'm pretty sure they are doing this for a paycheck, not because they are sweet guys. Yes, but is they company getting anything from the majority of the player? No. The company, which is paying them gets probably very little from you people. So acting entitled to being a douche, when your putting pennies in their paycheck and then expecting them to bow to your wishes because of the few pennies you gave them is stupid. Yeah, it's all just charity on ccp's part...
Yeah. For the Majority, It is.
Probably 90% of the people in the Game are Not paying a penny.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:19:00 -
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Leonid Tybalt wrote:
Used to be an eve player for years.
I've also bought the elite game pack. And buy aurum each month. So im entitled thank you very much.
Ah, so your opinion is worth more then mine because money?
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:24:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:Assuming that's company policy. But this is CCP we're talking here. Saying "Soon" IS THEIR COMPANY POLICY! Not seeing your point on this one. They can continue to develop on their timelines (Soon(TM)), but we need to be updated more often if they are going to take their sweet time. If a project takes three months you don't just leave your customers in the dark during that time. That's a ****** policy, I don't care what your company policies might have been until now.
And saying "You'll have it in 3 Months" and failing on the deadline because bugs and QA and Code-Monkeying just make the forums even more toxic then not letting you know.
If your a Community Manager, I think you would prefer the forums as least acidic as possible.
Hey, think about it like this. If you stop freaking the **** out and raging and spamming hate threads about when they mess a thing up, then maybe they might think about letting you know a timeline. But if that continues, I seriously think your just going to get the same answer over and over.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:26:00 -
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RailTank QQ wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Maken Tosch wrote:I look at it this way...
For every second a dev has to take their time to respond to a repeat thread (this is a repeat thread btw) of the same topic that was addressed already by another dev not too long ago, is every second not spent working on game to improve it or at least every second not spent putting together the dev blog. If you want the Dev Blog out sooner rather than later, then please stop bothering the devs over it and let them finish it. You aren't entirely untrue, but I submit a rebuttal: If I told my customers that I will have something done soon(TM). That I will be updating them, but I will not be telling them WHEN I will be updating them. Well, I'd be written up (or fired if this was a reoccurring problem) and I'd have no one to blame but myself. Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? Work in manufacturing, your patience with this kind of 'development' will be longer than prolly anyone else you'll meet. This is why they give us SOON and crap like that, because they most likely either don't know, or don't want to deal with the poopstorm we've been known to unleash at the drop of a hat about anything. Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : /
Ex-*******-actly
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:30:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:RailTank QQ wrote:Counter-point: If you did tell them WHEN and WHAT and were unable to meet the aforementioned deadline due to, oh I don't know, your staff quitting or a production clusterduck like having a machine break and parts take two weeks to get, how happy do you think they'd be? The customer would be upset, yes. Build risk buffers into your project plan. Parts might be late? Add two days. Mechanical failure? Add a week. If you deliver earlier than the projected date no one will be upset. (This is project planning 101, by the way) RailTank QQ wrote:Also, Shanghai is still just horribly understaffed for what they need to do : / Agreed. They need more staff.
And then you guys throw a hissy-fit over the long ass time of development.
And I do hope they get more staff. But I hear the Chinese Government is hassling the immigration process. 1/4 EVE's manpower is not where you want to be to have a Game that is supposed to be just as important as EVE.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 17:39:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:And then you guys throw a hissy-fit over the long ass time of development. I can't speak for the entire community, but development time isn't my concern. It's not being told jack **** for weeks (months) at a time while being asked to spend AUR on boosters.
Well, a lot of people do, and they just end up wasteing the time of Community Devs, who could be updating that timeframe as needed.
And I think everybody hates those ads. 
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