Until we hear this plan for ourselves, there is nothing CCP could say that would allay our concerns for the future of the title.

Until CCP decides that the people who play this game deserve to have some idea of where the game is going and a rough estimate of how long it might take for certain things to be done, then the community will remain as toxic and cynical as it has become.

I stopped playing Eve because I grew sick of hearing SoonGäó instead of a real plan, and that same attitude will eventually drive me from Dust.

If CCP wants us to accept that they have a plan, they should provide some info. If CCP wants a community that isn't waiting for things that are not coming, maybe they should come out and say that item X,Y, and Z are off the table.

For myself, I have no faith in CCP, nor will I become some optimist based on some words posted on a forum. If CCP wants to wait to fanfest to release a small amount of info, expect that I will be laughing my ass off when the community freaks out.

There are very few developers who can get away with saying "We will release info when it is ready, and the product when it is ready" and have people place faith in them. CCP is not one of those companies. They have a long track record of completely crapping the bed, so betting on them to succeed is a surefire way to end up broke.

I am going to give CCP until Fanfest to get their house in order. By the end of fanfest, if there is not substantial changes to the way CCP informs the playerbase of where development stands and where it is heading, I'm out. I have invested more than enough time and money into this game. If CCP spends fanfest getting their egos stroked and saying SoonGäó, I'll gladly biomass all my characters and forget that I ever played a CCP product.

A developer that produces substandard software and then has the audacity to act as if what they are working on and its progress are nuclear secrets is the type of developer that does not deserve my respect, my time, or my money.

I assure you it isn't. I'm very glad that Hans jumped in to reaffirm what I've been saying. I know it's difficult to sympathize from the outside, but I can only promise that we are working incredibly hard behind the scenes to make an awesome game and we will be able to reveal much more in time.

Ludvig Enraga has all the points.

There is no trust from dev to community.
There is no trust from community to dev.

There is no trust from community to CPM.
Let it sink in, we are at a point where the community does not trust its appointed reprerentatives.

I dont trust you, I dont trust CCP.
I have no reason whatsoever to trust them. CCP gave me none.

You implement something new, announce it shortly before final implementation, and get yourself a new ******* torn by the comminuty because the numbers you crunched were all over the place.

Here comes the biggest update since 1.0, and you still did not publish numbers.
What is this nuclear secret bullshit?

We want transparence. We want to help you, CCP, to avoid a possible train wreck of a release, like every single release post Chromosome. We want to help you make a game that isnt a trainwreck, so that we might play a game that isnt a trainwreck.

Why you still insist on playing sekret klub is mindboggling.

Ludvig Enraga has all the points.

There is no trust from dev to community.
There is no trust from community to dev.

There is no trust from community to CPM.
Let it sink in, we are at a point where the community does not trust its appointed reprerentatives.

FFS. If all you can do is make a promise for info later then don't post.

How is this so difficult for you guys to grasp?

Don't make posts that you are working on dev blogs. Just work on the dev blogs.

Don't say there is a plan, provide some tangible info or don't mention it.

FFS. If all you can do is make a promise for info later then don't post.

How is this so difficult for you guys to grasp?

Don't make posts that you are working on dev blogs. Just work on the dev blogs.

Don't say there is a plan, provide some tangible info or don't mention it.

Maybe I'm a mutation, but from time to time I like to here on what they are working.

Well except for all the details and numbers they HAVE released.

And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?

I dont think the issue is hearing "we are working on this and you will hear about it soon" - If they kept their word and we did hear about it later that week or the following one then things wouldnt be bad. You could have some faith because they did what they said.

When you hear that line time after time and nothing comes its maddening because you know it cant take that long to develop (I am just taling a bout a writeup now not a years worth of content) something for us to see. So you think to yourself, what are they really doing ???? Then you make a list of things dear to you that you wanted to see and when it builds up you get frustrated, to say the least.

I am not saying this to heap more criticism on CCP, just trying to illustrate to them how their fans feel and it goes sour.

I trust the word of Heinrich and Nova.
Sorry, but LockiBro and Chickenwing work directly for "the man" and have an agenda.

Lockibro....haha! I'm not letting him live that one down. Mmm chicken wings...

all my isk to whoever runs up in fronts of logibro, falls over and ask's for a needle.

And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?

And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?

You have to understand, ccp is still adding content to Eve, and to Dust 514. They're even working on Eve Valkari. Just be patient

And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?

As i read in some post: CCP is good selling dreams.

You ain't gone say sh*t.

If anyone went and looked at CCPGames.com and looked at all the positions they're hiring for the Shanghai division, they'd know that CCP is doing everything in their power to turn things around and speed up the development process.