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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
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Posted - 2014.02.24 06:43:00 -
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FarQue FromAfar wrote:And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?
I support this.
Denak Kalamari wrote:Have fun being a d1ck on FanFest then, if that's what you like to do.
Maybe you should stop being a blind fanboy?
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
275
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Posted - 2014.02.24 06:58:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I still dont understand why the game is being made in china. More talent in europe/America. Game should be made in-house along side maintaining and expanding eve. How can you build a game thats supposed to exist within another game on the other side of the world.
Lol at learning mandarin Chinese. While I can understand the point around it being "difficult" to relocate talent from overseas (I myself was expatriated from the UK!), I have to disagree with you on the whole. There are incredibly talented people both at CCP Shanghai and in China as a whole. Online computer and mobile gaming has taken Asia by storm. Having traveled around China and Korea it has been mind-boggling to observe people of all ages glued to games. I visited 5 PC Bangs (net cafes) on my recent trip to Seoul, because I'm a nerd like that. :) Finally, DUST 514 isn't meant to exist "within" EVE Online, but more in the EVE Universe - important distinction. :) We work closely with our buddies in Reykjavik. Edit: Mandarin Chinese is hard. I'm taking regular lessons and still suck pretty bad. But it also hasn't hampered my ability to communicate with anybody at CCP Shanghai and, as I mentioned on another thread, a lack of fluency shouldn't deter to anyone looking to apply for a role at the studio!
Well this occurring within new Eden is the general idea. Mercs are conducting planetary warfare and transferring ownership on behalf of capsuleers funding personal wars. I thought the vision was me being able to look up, see, and communicate via headset with the capsular in the Brutix fighting off the other guy dropping orbitals on me so I can take the planet for him. all happening in real time in one universe. If ambulation is ever finished being able to leave my quarters and walk past pilots and sitting in my Corp headquarters and watching ships undock from the station, answering a holographic conference call with a corporation so we can discuss a contract.-áWithout eve dust doesn't really have any role to fill in my opinion. It would just be another fps. If this isn't the case I seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what this game is trying to achieve haha.
I think seouls a bit different from china, it's already an established gaming Mecca, it has good Internet and lots of gamers. It's hard to picture a country that had a decade(+) long ban on foreign game consoles having adept people experienced with ps3 development. Wasn't really referring to the talent part, more so experience on how to bring out the best the cell has to offer. I'm sure there's talented people everywhere. I just find it an odd choice. There are people with years of ps3 development experience, and none of them are in china unless they've been flown in.-á
Regardless it's nice to get a blue tag response for once. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.02.24 08:39:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I still dont understand why the game is being made in china. More talent in europe/America. Game should be made in-house along side maintaining and expanding eve. How can you build a game thats supposed to exist within another game on the other side of the world.
Lol at learning mandarin Chinese. While I can understand the point around it being "difficult" to relocate talent from overseas (I myself was expatriated from the UK!), I have to disagree with you overall. There are incredibly talented people both at CCP Shanghai and in China as a whole. Online computer and mobile gaming has taken Asia by storm. Having traveled around China and Korea it has been mind-boggling to observe people of all ages glued to games. I visited 5 PC Bangs (net cafes) on my recent trip to Seoul, because I'm a nerd like that. :) Finally, DUST 514 isn't meant to exist "within" EVE Online, but more in the EVE Universe - important distinction. :) We work closely with our buddies in Reykjavik. Edit: Mandarin Chinese is hard. I'm taking regular lessons and still suck pretty bad. But it also hasn't hampered my ability to communicate with anybody at CCP Shanghai and, as I mentioned on another thread, a lack of fluency shouldn't deter to anyone looking to apply for a role at the studio!
Thank you for shareing and sorry if I sound jaded.
Even in Closed Beta it looked like no one was really looking at feedback? I.e. in the 2012 E3 build we had Dropships that were easy to fly and it was GREAT!! What did CCP do?? They messed with the way dropships flew despite NO ONE wanting any changes!!
The problem is it looks like no one is paying attention to feedback? I.e. I posted( in build 1.6) about why rail rifles needed such good hipfire, range and damage since these three factors made it look like another return of the OP tac ar but I was told to STFU by a CPM.
I posted about very fast tanks in 1.6 and was told it was all lies and then we saw it was all a true horror story.
I posted about that nerfing the swarms range by such a large factor was a bad idea but was told to be quiet.
I posted asking CCP why are tanks so fast? and got zip for responses and in fact not even a we will look at it soon blue response??
Its things like these that make folks look at the PS4 line up in response.
Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!!
Jumps into escape pod!
Selected destination Planet PS4.
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M McManus
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Posted - 2014.02.24 10:55:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I still dont understand why the game is being made in china. More talent in europe/America. Game should be made in-house along side maintaining and expanding eve. How can you build a game thats supposed to exist within another game on the other side of the world.
Lol at learning mandarin Chinese. While I can understand the point around it being "difficult" to relocate talent from overseas (I myself was expatriated from the UK!), I have to disagree with you overall. There are incredibly talented people both at CCP Shanghai and in China as a whole. Online computer and mobile gaming has taken Asia by storm. Having traveled around China and Korea it has been mind-boggling to observe people of all ages glued to games. I visited 5 PC Bangs (net cafes) on my recent trip to Seoul, because I'm a nerd like that. :) Finally, DUST 514 isn't meant to exist "within" EVE Online, but more in the EVE Universe - important distinction. :) We work closely with our buddies in Reykjavik. Edit: Mandarin Chinese is hard. I'm taking regular lessons and still suck pretty bad. But it also hasn't hampered my ability to communicate with anybody at CCP Shanghai and, as I mentioned on another thread, a lack of fluency shouldn't deter to anyone looking to apply for a role at the studio! Thank you for shareing and sorry if I sound jaded. Even in Closed Beta it looked like no one was really looking at feedback? I.e. in the 2012 E3 build we had Dropships that were easy to fly and it was GREAT!! What did CCP do?? They messed with the way dropships flew despite NO ONE wanting any changes!! The problem is it looks like no one is paying attention to feedback? I.e. I posted( in build 1.6) about why rail rifles needed such good hipfire, range and damage since these three factors made it look like another return of the OP tac ar but I was told to STFU by a CPM. I posted about very fast tanks in 1.6 and was told it was all lies and then we saw it was all a true horror story. I posted about that nerfing the swarms range by such a large factor was a bad idea but was told to be quiet. I posted asking CCP why are tanks so fast? and got zip for responses and in fact not even a we will look at it soon blue response?? Its things like these that make folks look at the PS4 line up in response.
And you still wont get a response... CCP has to know they ****** up at this point and is trying to do damage control with the skeleton crew they have left in Shanghai..
Its not just PS4 games people will be turning to its PC and Xbox One as well especially any kb/m players who are left they aren't going to stick around and continue to be ignored and **** on patch after patch especially with competitive style games on the horizon like TitanFall, Destiny and Elderscrolls Online..
I predict 3k players max by June even with the inherent failure that 1.8 will bring.. |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
275
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:16:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:CCP Saberwing wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I still dont understand why the game is being made in china. More talent in europe/America. Game should be made in-house along side maintaining and expanding eve. How can you build a game thats supposed to exist within another game on the other side of the world.
Lol at learning mandarin Chinese. While I can understand the point around it being "difficult" to relocate talent from overseas (I myself was expatriated from the UK!), I have to disagree with you overall. There are incredibly talented people both at CCP Shanghai and in China as a whole. Online computer and mobile gaming has taken Asia by storm. Having traveled around China and Korea it has been mind-boggling to observe people of all ages glued to games. I visited 5 PC Bangs (net cafes) on my recent trip to Seoul, because I'm a nerd like that. :) Finally, DUST 514 isn't meant to exist "within" EVE Online, but more in the EVE Universe - important distinction. :) We work closely with our buddies in Reykjavik. Edit: Mandarin Chinese is hard. I'm taking regular lessons and still suck pretty bad. But it also hasn't hampered my ability to communicate with anybody at CCP Shanghai and, as I mentioned on another thread, a lack of fluency shouldn't deter to anyone looking to apply for a role at the studio! Thank you for shareing and sorry if I sound jaded. Even in Closed Beta it looked like no one was really looking at feedback? I.e. in the 2012 E3 build we had Dropships that were easy to fly and it was GREAT!! What did CCP do?? They messed with the way dropships flew despite NO ONE wanting any changes!! The problem is it looks like no one is paying attention to feedback? I.e. I posted( in build 1.6) about why rail rifles needed such good hipfire, range and damage since these three factors made it look like another return of the OP tac ar but I was told to STFU by a CPM. I posted about very fast tanks in 1.6 and was told it was all lies and then we saw it was all a true horror story. I posted about that nerfing the swarms range by such a large factor was a bad idea but was told to be quiet. I posted asking CCP why are tanks so fast? and got zip for responses and in fact not even a we will look at it soon blue response?? Its things like these that make folks look at the PS4 line up in response. And you still wont get a response... CCP has to know they ****** up at this point and is trying to do damage control with the skeleton crew they have left in Shanghai.. Its not just PS4 games people will be turning to its PC and Xbox One as well especially any kb/m players who are left they aren't going to stick around and continue to be ignored and **** on patch after patch especially with competitive style games on the horizon like TitanFall, Destiny and Elderscrolls Online.. I predict 3k players max by June even with the inherent failure that 1.8 will bring..
Titanfall is just call of duty with mechs and it's not even an exclusive game, destiny is just a halo clone with boring looking gameplay and a wonky art style and the elderscrolls is going to bomb because of the insane price. 60$ game plus 15$ a month subscription? Now add in microtransactions to that plus the fact it's going to be awful fetch quests with mediocre skyrim style combat and it'll be f2p and soon dead like swtor. Monocle gate messed eve up too. No one likes microtransactions in subscription games. It took people a few days to come back to dust from that clusterfail called ghosts. |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
685
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:57:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:
Titanfall is just call of duty with mechs and it's not even an exclusive game, destiny is just a halo clone with boring looking gameplay and a wonky art style and the elderscrolls is going to bomb because of the insane price. 60$ game plus 15$ a month subscription? Now add in microtransactions to that plus the fact it's going to be awful fetch quests with mediocre skyrim style combat and it'll be f2p and soon dead like swtor. Monocle gate messed eve up too. No one likes microtransactions in subscription games. It took people a few days to come back to dust from that clusterfail called ghosts.
there are still high quality shooters and games out there. BF4 is a very dog game, it is the only game from EA I play. It is 60fps looks nice and a hell a lot of fun with friends. Yes it is pointless and dumb, but it is fun to play and that counts more right now. DarkSouls2 is about to come out as well. And please don't talk about the other game like destiny like you allready know them. I'M skeptical as well, but we will see how it tours out.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
5080
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:10:00 -
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CCP Saberwing wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:I still dont understand why the game is being made in china. More talent in europe/America. Game should be made in-house along side maintaining and expanding eve. How can you build a game thats supposed to exist within another game on the other side of the world.
Lol at learning mandarin Chinese. While I can understand the point around it being "difficult" to relocate talent from overseas (I myself was expatriated from the UK!), I have to disagree with you overall. There are incredibly talented people both at CCP Shanghai and in China as a whole. Online computer and mobile gaming has taken Asia by storm. Having traveled around China and Korea it has been mind-boggling to observe people of all ages glued to games. I visited 5 PC Bangs (net cafes) on my recent trip to Seoul, because I'm a nerd like that. :) Finally, DUST 514 isn't meant to exist "within" EVE Online, but more in the EVE Universe - important distinction. :) We work closely with our buddies in Reykjavik. Edit: Mandarin Chinese is hard. I'm taking regular lessons and still suck pretty bad. But it also hasn't hampered my ability to communicate with anybody at CCP Shanghai and, as I mentioned on another thread, a lack of fluency shouldn't deter to anyone looking to apply for a role at the studio!
While I strongly recommend watching this video at home as to not offend anyone, it might actually be quite helpful even though the speaker's methods are a bit abrasive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZp4Jh_wRiA
Useful Links
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M McManus
392
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Posted - 2014.02.24 14:35:00 -
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Auris Lionesse wrote:
Titanfall is just call of duty with mechs and it's not even an exclusive game, destiny is just a halo clone with boring looking gameplay and a wonky art style and the elderscrolls is going to bomb because of the insane price. 60$ game plus 15$ a month subscription? Now add in microtransactions to that plus the fact it's going to be awful fetch quests with mediocre skyrim style combat and it'll be f2p and soon dead like swtor. Monocle gate messed eve up too. No one likes microtransactions in subscription games. It took people a few days to come back to dust from that clusterfail called ghosts.
I know this is way off topic but I can't stand unintelligent ignorance first you don't know **** about Destiny no one does yet, second you obviously don't know what the he'll you're talking about when referring to micro transactions in Elder Scrolls Online the devs have already crushed that rumor.. And im sorry $60 is expensive to you because the $100 collectors edition has already sold out at multiple retailers so much for no one playing elder scrolls ? Set your fanboy aside and realize if Dust devs dont pull thier heads out of thier ass no one ia going to even think about playing Dust in the months to come it has already been happening among vetrean players and teams .. |
Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
1014
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:22:00 -
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FarQue FromAfar wrote:And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery?
I might be wrong but this is going to be your first Fanfest isn't?
Do you honestly believe for a moment that you'll be the only one saying any of this? The Dev's all love Fanfest but it also terrifies them as well. For three days and a few nights in the pub at the beginning of the week for those of us that go early, they are battered with questions and solutions to problems they didn't even know were a problem.
I had a very animated discussion with Nullabor and Foxfour about the pitiful corp UI on the Monday night. The round table discussions can get a little heated to say the least when the room is full of people passionate about the game.
Now as to the problems about that which was promised last year and that what was delivered, I'm amazed we got as much as we did having been present at all the dust round tables. The problems that the game had on launch with the 1.0 build of Uprising, the EP leaving, a four month gap before the new EP arrived and the reorganisation he's has to do....
If the shedule is similar to last year the keynote for Dust will be the first day at 5 and then we'll know what to discuss.
It'll be fun.
Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot
CEO of DUST University
CPM1 candidate
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Nothing Certain
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
272
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Posted - 2014.02.24 15:32:00 -
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The question I would ask them, politely since I play their game for free and enjoy it, is "having played Dust for several months it has become clear that the "new player experience" and the uneven matchmaking is the biggest problem facing the community, what, if any, plans to you have to resolve this problem?"
Or "What the **** , guys?"
Because, that's why.
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FarQue FromAfar
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
83
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:37:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:FarQue FromAfar wrote:And yes I do have tickets...My Questions will be LOUD and AS Follows..." Where are your promises of the game you so richly described last year here at Fan Fest??? Do you have better ideas on what you promised us last year that you could not deliver, Is that why it is taking you so long??? How come you could you not deliver anything you promised but two new racial Assault Rifles, and a patch completely untested by your community, delivery date of said patch TBA, with the introduction of a full set of changes and the "Other Half" of the Racial Suits.... What can you tell us "This Year" that will keep a player base that has fallen off because of a severe lack of "New Player Experience" and a lack of delivery? I'm going to read you some quotes about Eve Online in the Eve Online: Into the Second Decade collector's edition book, maybe help you reflect on how stupid this goal of yours is going to be. "CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?" ~ Barnett
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words." ~ Elan Dochin You're literally going to go down in history as the laughing stock that players a decade from now will say, "Boy, does that guy feel stupid." Listen bro, I used to be like you (hell, I still joke about this very thing) but what you have to understand is that CCP Shanghai made the same exact mistakes that CCP Iceland made.. Over-hyping concepts and designs that were not even close to being finished, unrealistic and half-thought. They, like all human beings, learn from their experiences and I can almost guarantee that they won't make that mistake this year (I've even got permission from the CPM to virtually choke a ***** if they do). Holding onto past experiences should be done for the lulz. It should be the sarcastic running joke that's meant to semi-politely jab at the guys at CCP in a way similar to, "Hey, remember when we did -THAT-? Remember when we made that terrible decision? Boy were we young!" but it should never be used as a grudge, lest you not only make yourself look like the world's biggest, most self-entitled douche (I mean, really, who are you to tell them how to run THEIR game?) but it also serves to accomplish nothing but demoralize the developers who, just like you, are trying their best. Now, take a step back and think about how this is going to go over. First off, if anyone thinks that I am going to Fan Fest only to cause dissonance or mayhem to get a story, then they are very wrong. Secondly if any think that I am going just for Dust 514, they are again wrong. I write for such a broad spectrum of outlets that any who have read so far and think I am going to jeopardize my standings with being a jerk, are yet again, wrong.
I am going to get as much information possible from everything possible, considering I only have in my budget two days to get as much out of Fan Fest for a multitude of articles. I am sure that I will not be the only person asking these similar questions, or possibly tougher questions, but I do want them to be asked.
I completely understand that writing code for any program is very difficult, nor do I expect them to accomplish every thing they say they "Would Like To See" in their near future. If they are trying to keep players interested and bring more in, then do not make a wish list so long that they can never finish.
I will never tell a company how to run their business, and you saying so is very presumptuous, but this is a forum discussion, and I do expect some presumptions to be made.
@CCPLogibro I am a contributor for more than one outlet, and do not hail from just one franchise. I do have press credentials but prefer to either ask as a fan, or allow others to ask if that is what they so choose to know. If I speak up it is because it is relevant to the conversation. Thanks. |
FarQue FromAfar
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
83
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:40:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:If you're entirely serious about coming to Fanfest and being from a news organization, I might recommend you shoot an email to CCP Manifest ( [email protected] ). @CCPLogibro I am a contributor for more than one outlet, and do not hail from just one franchise. I do have press credentials but prefer to either ask as a fan, or allow others to ask if that is what they so choose to know. If I speak up it is because it is relevant to the conversation. Thanks. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1330
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:41:00 -
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Make sure you find out Who was responsible For Programming the RDV's and give them a punch in the shoulder... Not hard... but still deserved...
Maybe by the time the 200th Merc delivers much deserved hard knocks he will at least attempt to fix his mistake for 2 years of hell.
Afterall when is the last time you got to do a bad job at your employ continously for 2 years and not be asked to make it right? |
Thanatos 716
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
155
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Posted - 2014.02.24 23:54:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:And they will answer with...
Soon(tm)
ALT+0153=Gäó
"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
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da GAND
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
389
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:05:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:knight of 6 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:knight of 6 wrote:okay let me ask you a question right here right now loud and for all to hear.
what do you think they're doing? do you honestly believe that they take any joy in failing to deliver? you say they're are developing "slowly", but if they could do it any faster do you think they would? making a game is like construction work it can only happen so quickly and there is a point where nothing will speed it up. I think people often forget that this is a JOB it's WORK you work 9-5 and go home. if you're running behind schedule you pull overtime but even then you can only do so much. sometimes **** happens.
"There's only one rule that I know of, babiesGÇöGod damn it, you've got to be kind." ~ Vonnegut Heheh. If they can't deliever any faster, why lie to the consumers, knowing all the while you can't deliever - false advertisement. I assume it's fine with you though. no, it's not okay with me. certainly if they know they can't deliver. but honestly I trust ccp, perhaps it's a flaw of character, but I like to think that they aren't intentionally deceiving the customer. it's a judgement call that each of us has to make, can ccp deliver the product? if you say "no" why are you still here? our building is a little behind schedule, is it too far behind to be worth it? that's a question I can't answer for you. To extend on your argument, I'd like to add on this: If anyone went and looked at CCPGames.com and looked at all the positions they're hiring for the Shanghai division, they'd know that CCP is doing everything in their power to turn things around and speed up the development process. I think everyone needs to understand that these guys have (up until the recent holidays) been burning through -monthly- point releases; that's no easy task and I'm sure all of the developers have felt the grind from that. Then of course there are members of the community that chastize them for having extended holidays... With that kind of acid-spewing, you can't immediately wonder why CCP is more often silent then not xD
Ya I saw that they are looking to hire plenty of programmers, why did it take them so long to figure out that they were so behind and needed better or more people?
After Uprisings release the forums were a bad place, I'll never forget how CCP screwed up so badly.
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
135
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:17:00 -
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FarQue FromAfar wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:FarQue FromAfar wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:And they will answer with...
Soon(tm) But I will speak loudly, and will be heard. All the lasers and monitors with all the pretty pictures and such... Well then be prepared to be ignored like on the forums lol. Well I have a card up my sleeve... I am in from San Antonio News :)
I don't think people in SA care to read about Dust
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The Terminator T-1000
Skynet Incorporated
135
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Posted - 2014.02.25 00:18:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:If you're entirely serious about coming to Fanfest and being from a news organization, I might recommend you shoot an email to CCP Manifest ( [email protected] ).
I wonder who is bluffing....
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
685
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:41:00 -
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I need to hear more about how people are disappointing overall from CCP Shanghai and Dust. It makes me feel god.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
910
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Posted - 2014.02.25 05:56:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Ludvig Enraga wrote:knight of 6 wrote:okay let me ask you a question right here right now loud and for all to hear.
what do you think they're doing? do you honestly believe that they take any joy in failing to deliver? you say they're are developing "slowly", but if they could do it any faster do you think they would? making a game is like construction work it can only happen so quickly and there is a point where nothing will speed it up. I think people often forget that this is a JOB it's WORK you work 9-5 and go home. if you're running behind schedule you pull overtime but even then you can only do so much. sometimes **** happens.
"There's only one rule that I know of, babiesGÇöGod damn it, you've got to be kind." ~ Vonnegut Heheh. If they can't deliever any faster, why lie to the consumers, knowing all the while you can't deliever - false advertisement. I assume it's fine with you though. no, it's not okay with me. certainly if they know they can't deliver. but honestly I trust ccp, perhaps it's a flaw of character, but I like to think that they aren't intentionally deceiving the customer. it's a judgement call that each of us has to make, can ccp deliver the product? if you say "no" why are you still here? our building is a little behind schedule, is it too far behind to be worth it? that's a question I can't answer for you.
I am not that big of a figure to be in the spot light as far as my motivations but here: I'll gladly share them with you. There is no other FPS game imo on console market that features world permanence and clan centered structure. Dust has not executed either of these particularly well and has a ton of other issues. It's only accomplishment is that it has no competition on the market. This is why I am still here.
PLC, NK, Scout - before 1.8.
That's right, I stack that OP Sh!t.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
685
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Posted - 2014.02.25 07:51:00 -
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Ludvig Enraga wrote:.... It's only accomplishment is that it has no competition on the market. This is why I am still here.
Yes and there are two on the way. Destiny could be god, The District shows more potential by now. But we will see.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
359
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Posted - 2014.02.25 08:31:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:FarQue FromAfar wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:FarQue FromAfar wrote:JL3Eleven wrote:And they will answer with...
Soon(tm) But I will speak loudly, and will be heard. All the lasers and monitors with all the pretty pictures and such... Well then be prepared to be ignored like on the forums lol. Well I have a card up my sleeve... I am in from San Antonio News :) So? Unless you're from CNN, no one cares. What? Who the **** listens to CNN anymore? Yuck.... |
meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
685
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:05:00 -
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more drama please
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
528
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Posted - 2014.02.26 07:07:00 -
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Promise? What promise?
Your tone of self entitlement annoys me. |
Waiyu Ren
Seeker of The Path
36
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Posted - 2014.02.26 08:41:00 -
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meri jin wrote:I need to hear more about how people are disappointing overall from CCP Shanghai and Dust. It makes me feel god.
I'm not religious, so what you and God do in the privacy of your own home, and for what reasons... I'm not going to judge.
On topic: I'm just going to wait. I won't be selling my ps3 until I have a library of games on the ps4 that see more use. The development/release cycle for the console should really kick in next year, but it will take a while for there to be enough games that i PERSONALLY like. It's pretty rare that i'll go back to a game once i've dismissed it. DUST could be that kind of game eventually, but it's going to have to offer me more than a team deathmatch mobius strip first.... That gets old, real quick. At the moment i'm only logging in to spend passive SP and spam my corp mates with "random musings" emails.
I do have one friend in particular who is very, very keen about Dust at least: Plays the game every day, and looks at me like i'm defective every time i say meh to squading up.... That's some freakishly fanatical fanboyism you've cultivated right there CCP. Must be a real ***** keeping them onside... One moment of weakness and they'll rip your guts out.
I do have one serious thing to add though: Someone mentioned the acidity levels of the forums making Devs reluctant to step up? Yeah, no. CCP is a company. The Devs are employees. Devs that speak to the community are essentially CSRs. CSRs do not get to have feelings while carrying out the specified tasks of their employment terms.
Can you imagine a world where if you weren't unfailingly polite to the guy/girl behind the counter, they could just slap you? (Or living in i think it's New South Wales? where you can now be fined over 10k for being a **** to staff? Provided they don't slap you...) CCP Logibro has my respect for his unflapability in the line of fire as the "Face of the DUST Forums". I can only imagine what he really feels about us sometimes.
Shouting doesn't make your opinion seem more valid, it just makes you seem more annoying.
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meri jin
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
685
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Posted - 2014.02.26 09:24:00 -
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Waiyu Ren wrote: ... CCP Logibro ... I can only imagine what he really feels about us sometimes.
Love. He is a masochist, and he loves us for what we are.
My EVE pilot have more ISK then your peon corp.
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Cmdr Wolfe
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
60
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Posted - 2014.02.26 10:48:00 -
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will there actually be anyone there to see DUST stuff this year? i thought this fan fest is an EVE thing |
Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
5103
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Posted - 2014.02.26 13:19:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:
To extend on your argument, I'd like to add on this:
If anyone went and looked at CCPGames.com and looked at all the positions they're hiring for the Shanghai division, they'd know that CCP is doing everything in their power to turn things around and speed up the development process. I think everyone needs to understand that these guys have (up until the recent holidays) been burning through -monthly- point releases; that's no easy task and I'm sure all of the developers have felt the grind from that.
Then of course there are members of the community that chastize them for having extended holidays... With that kind of acid-spewing, you can't immediately wonder why CCP is more often silent then not xD
Ya I saw that they are looking to hire plenty of programmers, why did it take them so long to figure out that they were so behind and needed better or more people?
Could have been anything, really. Budget concerns at the time, employees leaving for whatever reason (I know at least a Game Designer and Executive Producer no longer work there) or it could have been pressures from Sony; you never really know but you can always speculate. What's important though is that they -are- hiring the position and taking pretty great strides to ensure change
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Killar-12
The Corporate Raiders Top Men.
2395
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:03:00 -
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Get in line...
Listen
I'll change the song every week
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Meknow Intaki
73
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Posted - 2014.02.26 14:27:00 -
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Give em a break!! They get two months off for Christmas, there's probably spring break coming then summer vacation, don't forget about a little fall break then there almost back to Christmas lol |
Auris Lionesse
Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance
284
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Posted - 2014.02.26 16:54:00 -
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M McManus wrote:Auris Lionesse wrote:
Titanfall is just call of duty with mechs and it's not even an exclusive game, destiny is just a halo clone with boring looking gameplay and a wonky art style and the elderscrolls is going to bomb because of the insane price. 60$ game plus 15$ a month subscription? Now add in microtransactions to that plus the fact it's going to be awful fetch quests with mediocre skyrim style combat and it'll be f2p and soon dead like swtor. Monocle gate messed eve up too. No one likes microtransactions in subscription games. It took people a few days to come back to dust from that clusterfail called ghosts.
I know this is way off topic but I can't stand unintelligent ignorance first you don't know **** about Destiny no one does yet, second you obviously don't know what the he'll you're talking about when referring to micro transactions in Elder Scrolls Online the devs have already crushed that rumor.. And im sorry $60 is expensive to you because the $100 collectors edition has already sold out at multiple retailers so much for no one playing elder scrolls ? Set your fanboy aside and realize if Dust devs dont pull thier heads out of thier ass no one ia going to even think about playing Dust in the months to come it has already been happening among vetrean players and teams ..
Micro transactions are confirmed to be in elder scrolls online by Pete Hines. 1 year of eso is 220-240$ that's expensive. Collectors editions always sell out to dedicated fans and it's not all that impressive. Define multiple? 3? 300? How many collectors editions does each retailer carry? Just curious Also I'm already critical of the devs because I've played eve and I know what Ccp is capable of, so I really have no idea what your talking about with me being a fanboy as if I'm defending them because I harbor some sort of grudge against te aforementioned games. Scroll back a page or check my post history.
Secondly and most importantly don't curse if your trying to get your point across. It makes you sound immature and petty. No point in getting all riled up because you disagree with someone. It's just the Internet. Anyway I'm here to check my replies and post about dust so see ya |
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