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Scheherazade VII
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:42:00 -
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i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
729
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:44:00 -
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I have hated aim assist since it came into the game. People who could not shoot for s**t suddenly and overnight became master marksmen.
CCP should totally remove AA and anything else along those lines. Or at the very least dial it down. Its crazy how powerful it is. Speed tanking used to be viable, now its not so much. |
Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
460
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:50:00 -
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I also feel like hit boxes are to big or that the bullet size is big because i have killed people whom i clearly missed and been killed when i definatly side steped the shots. Could just be aim assist "helping" people tho |
Alternate Insano
SUICIDE SPITE SQUAD
119
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:53:00 -
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You so silly. And TRANSPARENT. I am going to translate this QQ to Scrubese, my native language, "I am a SGer because I'm a scrub and can OHK new players all day. The new players are wise to my scrubby ways and have learned how to counter my scrubness. I can't figure out another cheesy way to win, so it must be their fault. And the rail rifle is OP!"
Now offering Scrubese translating to all threads.
DUST 514 Super Scrub
Level 262 Forum Troll
Play, or play not. There is no balance.
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
441
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:56:00 -
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What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong.
Neighborhood Bully prof 5
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
281
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Posted - 2014.02.21 11:57:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong. Minmatar scout at ADV has 300 hp
Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
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Drapedup Drippedout
0uter.Heaven
441
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:02:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong. Minmatar scout at ADV has 300 hp
Sorry he said dmg mods and kin cats so I assumed he tossed an armor plate on a gal scout ><
Neighborhood Bully prof 5
"Gimme yo lunch money"
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Delta90212
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
282
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:06:00 -
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Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong. Minmatar scout at ADV has 300 hp Sorry he said dmg mods and kin cats so I assumed he tossed an armor plate on a gal scout >< lol if you toss a armor plate on a gal scout you are indeed doing it wrong haha
Fear The Tribes / Standings Minmatar 5 / Gallente 5 / Pilot
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3476
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Posted - 2014.02.21 12:13:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:You so silly. And TRANSPARENT. I am going to translate this QQ to Scrubese, my native language, "I am a SGer because I'm a scrub and can OHK new players all day. The new players are wise to my scrubby ways and have learned how to counter my scrubness. I can't figure out another cheesy way to win, so it must be their fault. And the rail rifle is OP!"
Now offering Scrubese translating to all threads.
I never cease to be impressed with how popular TLC is with the Dust community.
Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
741
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Posted - 2014.02.21 18:50:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:You so silly. And TRANSPARENT. I am going to translate this QQ to Scrubese, my native language, "I am a SGer because I'm a scrub and can OHK new players all day. The new players are wise to my scrubby ways and have learned how to counter my scrubness. I can't figure out another cheesy way to win, so it must be their fault. And the rail rifle is OP!"
Now offering Scrubese translating to all threads.
Your trolling is rather good as you sure as hell know how to get people slightly miffed. How about you bugger off until you actually start being constructive. Seriously....
Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads.
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Aniyah Lela
Nos Nothi
7
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:05:00 -
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Lose the DMG mods, & focus on profile dampening & presicion/range mods. Speed tanking is only useful, if the enemy doesn't know where you are, but you know where they are. Also never engage the enemy in open areas, lure them to you. You won't dodge bullets, but speed can be fun if you play smart & use the environment to your advantage.
DTOracle
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1295
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:18:00 -
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Aniyah Lela wrote:Lose the DMG mods, & focus on profile dampening & presicion/range mods. Speed tanking is only useful, if the enemy doesn't know where you are, but you know where they are. Also never engage the enemy in open areas, lure them to you. You won't dodge bullets, but speed can be fun if you play smart & use the environment to your advantage.
There is dodging bullets matrix style like people claimed happened in DUST....
Or there is what most of us running capture cards found out... We where missing.. and shooting to the side of them.. When a scout was out moving your personal tracking and aim correction speed it was skill Not game abuse.
Everyone that said the good scouts abused server updates in speed tanking scouts. Just couldnt come to terms that their personal Aim wasn't upto par...
The people who accepted they needed to improve their AIM had no issue with fast moving scouts...The Opposite in fact we LOVED the appearance of fast moving scouts as it tested our Aiming ability to its max. And if they got to close before we eliminated them we failed... If they flanked us then our situational awareness wasn't upto snuff..
For CoD players on DUST? Hell no, why should someone move faster then you and put you at an aiming disadvantage? If you can't aim and hit them then there must be something wrong with YOUR game CCP
Tripwire President John Gibson wrote:The skill gap is so compressed, that itGÇÖs like a slot machine. You might as well just sit down at a slot machine and have a thing that pops up an says GÇ£I got a kill!GÇ¥ TheyGÇÖve taken individual skill out of the equation so much. So you see these guysGÇöI see it all the time, they come in to play Red Orchestra, and theyGÇÖre like GÇ£This gameGÇÖs just too hardcore. IGÇÖm awesome at Call of Duty, so thereGÇÖs something wrong with your game. Because IGÇÖm not successful at playing this game, so it must suck. IGÇÖm not the problem, itGÇÖs your game.GÇ¥ And sometimes as designers, it is our game. Sometimes we screw up, sometimes we design something thatGÇÖs not accesible enough, they canGÇÖt figure it out, we didnGÇÖt give them enough information to figure out where to go... but more often than not, itGÇÖs because Call of Duty compressed their skill gap so much that these guys never needed to get good at a shooter. They never needed to get good at their twitch skills. |
BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
576
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:24:00 -
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Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team.
your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2724
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:24:00 -
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Speed tanking....oh yeah, I remember. We used to do that before the developers decided going fast was OP. Kinetic Catalyzers threw too much doubt as to whether or not Dust was the slowest shooter ever. They had to be defeated.
I GÖú Kittens.
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1824
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:29:00 -
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Aim assist and OP hitscan weapons have basically taken a ton of strategy, playstyles, and weapons off the Dust battlefield.
AA should go, and hitscan weapons should either be converted to true projectile weapons where it makes sense or nerfed fairly heavily.
Oneday, not yet, but one day AR514* will cease to exist and Dust will be reborn.
(AR being med to long range hitscan weapons with too much DPS and very little downsides) |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1824
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:31:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
Ummm... Speedtaking is a thing in New Eden. It's definitely supposed to be a thing in Dust. CCP just borked it like everything else due to the ridiculously low TTK.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
1295
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:32:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
I Never had a problem tracking the fastest scouts in the game... And hitting them consistently... From Annie Oakley to Calamity in Chromosome(Before they went cal Logi)... To Radar, Sha Karn Clone, Lightning xVx and Exmaple in Uprising 1.0-1.3... People saying that scouts magically broke HD anymore then was already present in the game is silly.
If you turned on your capture card and went back to the footage you'll notice your crosshairs where off on these scouts.. It made me take a step back and work more on my aiming ability in DUST. Then you had one scout going different speed to the next scout and getting your mind and muscle memory used to the constant adjustment in speed and tracking from one target to the next... was the moment to moment personal skill challenges that made DUST 514 a magical addictive game. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
4946
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:10:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team.
your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
Then what is the point of Minmatar Assault suits?
Your argument is now invalid.
Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub
AFK
No seriously. My lunch break's over now. :(
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
2782
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:12:00 -
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Kin Kat heavies would disagree with you.
Templar BPO(375Mil)
EVE Pilot
I feed off your tears
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
577
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:BAD FURRY wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team.
your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
Then what is the point of Minmatar Assault suits? Your argument is now invalid.
whats the point you ask?
its to move faster then the other suits to cover ground to get some where be for the other guy do,s
NOT to Speed tank !
Your argument is now invalid !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
2725
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:24:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:[HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team.
your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.)) Are you serious? If so, do you prefer huffing gold or silver paint? It's dipshits like you that justifies the $XX,XXX dollars a year to keep my kids in private school.
Speed tanking is (was) a viable Infantry tactic. It doesn't mean driving fast in a HAV you dense, ******* tard. Anybody that doesn't ride the FotM knows that.
Stupid ******* *****.
I n++ú Kittens.
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BAD FURRY
SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance
577
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:25:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.)) Ummm... Speedtaking is a thing in New Eden. It's definitely supposed to be a thing in Dust. CCP just borked it like everything else due to the ridiculously low TTK.
In a MMO yes not in a FPS MMO ! if you think running around fast should = no one hits you your wrong ! you have speed to get some where fast not to block hits !
Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
345
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:26:00 -
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Oh man some games you can't get out on the field before a RR or a CR drops you from 60 meters or more.
But I am not a fotm guy. I speed tank, I use a shoty and I fu+ºking love it.
War never changes
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
1827
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:30:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Buster Friently wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly. it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit, go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player, they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it? The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.)) Ummm... Speedtaking is a thing in New Eden. It's definitely supposed to be a thing in Dust. CCP just borked it like everything else due to the ridiculously low TTK. In a MMO yes not in a FPS MMO ! if you think running around fast should = no one hits you your wrong ! you have speed to get some where fast not to block hits !
Speed makes it harder to hit you yes, therefore speed tanking is a thing. Sorry, you're wrong. This is why there's a bunch of modules to aid in speed tanking. |
DEZKA DIABLO
0uter.Heaven
224
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:04:00 -
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Speed tanking isn't dead, it's more of a combination of how and when. My main is both proto scouts, and none of my fits are under 8.57 sprint,the thing is profile, you can be fast an have health, you can t be fast an not be scanned because if your adv or minmatar you have 2 lows, my dragonfly is my only slow fit cuz I run a reactive an a pd, but new build you have 3 low in gal until proto and min has 3 low at proto.
Plus the cloak acts as a dampener, so you will be able to run red/green/ pd an shields in the high. Minmatar will need the cloak as a dampener, so you can do it more successfully in 1.8 Settle for a dampened suit with 1 kin or understand line of sight better, speed helps nothing if they can see you.
Some reason without a pd equipped visualy I'm seen easier but with one on I can walk through a pack of red , gallente proto I use Red Green Complex reactive Pd or another red, zig zag and use ur green
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Stiddlefaxq
Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:14:00 -
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Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong. Minmatar scout at ADV has 300 hp Sorry he said dmg mods and kin cats so I assumed he tossed an armor plate on a gal scout >< lol if you toss a armor plate on a gal scout you are indeed doing it wrong haha
Actually that is what almost all the AE scouts are doing right now... And its not just 1 plate, it is 3 enhanced/complex. Speed tanking is DEAD. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:33:00 -
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Speed tanking was silly. Shotgunners shouldn't be able to run out into the open and have 5 people be unable to hit them. I saw Annie Oakley do this a ton. If a game makes it so hard to shoot so done that an entire squad fails to do so while they run I. The open, that's not a fun game. I say this as someone who started scout, switches to min assault during the scout dark ages, and am back to scout. I appreciate speed. But for flanking and moving to cover. Not for dancing while nobody could hit me. |
Appia Vibbia
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:40:00 -
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Stiddlefaxq wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:Delta90212 wrote:Drapedup Drippedout wrote:What speed tanked suit has 300 HP?? I think ur doing it wrong. Minmatar scout at ADV has 300 hp Sorry he said dmg mods and kin cats so I assumed he tossed an armor plate on a gal scout >< lol if you toss a armor plate on a gal scout you are indeed doing it wrong haha Actually that is what almost all the AE scouts are doing right now... And its not just 1 plate, it is 3 enhanced/complex. Speed tanking is DEAD. inside a city speed tanking doesn't work. Roner runs 4 complex plates, I run 3 complex plates and a dampener. Outside points are different. High level of success with no plates, 2 complex kin cats, and a Cardiac Regulator. 1.6 killed it completely, aim assist was toned down a little for 1.7, but speed tanking without a profile dampener is just suicidal.
unless you mean in pubs, because most people that play pc can take any fit imaginable and make it work, because matchmaking is awesome like that. Speed tanking in pubs is so easy.
lastly, shield upgrades 5, shield extension 5, armor upgrades 5: Gallente Scout gk.0, complex shield extender, 3 kincats, 1 profile dampener: 160 shields, 162 armor. pretty close to 300 HP
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:49:00 -
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Alternate Insano wrote:You so silly. And TRANSPARENT. I am going to translate this QQ to Scrubese, my native language, "I am a SGer because I'm a scrub and can OHK new players all day. The new players are wise to my scrubby ways and have learned how to counter my scrubness. I can't figure out another cheesy way to win, so it must be their fault. And the rail rifle is OP!"
Now offering Scrubese translating to all threads. you do understand that the shotgun is out DPSed by a militia assault rifle, right?
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
TRA1LBLAZERS
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Posted - 2014.02.21 21:52:00 -
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speed tanking now involves jumping over the head of your enemy and head shotting them with your shotgun. Strafing is non existent in CQC, as sideways moving is slower than backwards moving, kin cats don't affect strafing, and moving backwards 3 steps with a shotgun puts you out of range
Kills- Archduke Ferdinand
Balance!
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