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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:29:00 -
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Aim assist and OP hitscan weapons have basically taken a ton of strategy, playstyles, and weapons off the Dust battlefield.
AA should go, and hitscan weapons should either be converted to true projectile weapons where it makes sense or nerfed fairly heavily.
Oneday, not yet, but one day AR514* will cease to exist and Dust will be reborn.
(AR being med to long range hitscan weapons with too much DPS and very little downsides) |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:31:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist
and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly.
it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit,
go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player,
they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before
you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't
have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it?
The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT
fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because
the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either
the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use
and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better
suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.))
Ummm... Speedtaking is a thing in New Eden. It's definitely supposed to be a thing in Dust. CCP just borked it like everything else due to the ridiculously low TTK.
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Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.02.21 20:30:00 -
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BAD FURRY wrote:Buster Friently wrote:BAD FURRY wrote:Scheherazade VII wrote:i like to use my shotgun guy, maybe I just suck with him but with aim assist
and rail rifles I don't stand a chance, my guy dies instantly
all i want to do is run around with kin cats and damage mods but because my suit has 300hp it drops instantly.
it doesn't matter how fast you're running when somebody doesn't have to aim to kill you.
I also have a militia suit with under 200hp, why does this exist? seriously CCP somebody is going to use this suit,
go up against what I was going up against and because they don't understand the game as a new player,
they'll quit as they'll think that's all that is available to them.
It's a pretty good feeling when you kill adv and even proto suits with the militia guy but normally you die before
you can get anywhere. How can you flank and be stealthy in a fast suit if you're being scanned?
you have to be right up in their face but they will get you in open ground or kill you before you come round the corner.
CCP if you want to make a game with variety then make all classes and loadouts usable! Right now if you don't
have a god damned rail or combat rifle there's no point in playing!
What's the point of having all this stuff in the game if you can only use 10% of it?
The TTK is still a huge issue, I'm seeing a lot of people putting up 50+ kills with the rail rifle because MLT
fits don't stand a CHANCE, regardless of how good that person is in an FPS game they will get destroyed simply because
the gun shooting at them is more effective at range and does a ridiculous amount of damage.
The rail rifle may get nerfed but it's not going to change the fact that you don't have to aim for your shots to do damage, either
the rounds are too big or it's the overall hit detection I don't know but the rail rifle is the easiest weapon in the game to use
and it makes using my favourite suits POINTLESS.
Hell I ran out of dropsuits yesterday because my militia suit dies in half a second to the rail rifle, so I should use a better
suit right? THEN WHY ARE MILITIA SUITS IN THE GAME? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...... (30 min latter )....o god my sides ...anyways yes speed tanking is dead because it was not meant to be alive in the 1st place HD was off so players took to it thinking it was apart of the game when its not. if your a scout then you do what a scout do,s hide and keep out of view of the other team as you lay down up links and take out 1 or 2 small man groups and hack points and scan and be a look out for your team. your not a battle tank your not a superman drop suit your a SCOUT !!! AKA ((a soldier or other person sent out ahead of a main force so as to gather information about the enemy's position, strength, or movements.)) Ummm... Speedtaking is a thing in New Eden. It's definitely supposed to be a thing in Dust. CCP just borked it like everything else due to the ridiculously low TTK. In a MMO yes not in a FPS MMO ! if you think running around fast should = no one hits you your wrong ! you have speed to get some where fast not to block hits !
Speed makes it harder to hit you yes, therefore speed tanking is a thing. Sorry, you're wrong. This is why there's a bunch of modules to aid in speed tanking. |
Buster Friently
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Posted - 2014.02.21 23:08:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:Speed tanking was silly. Shotgunners shouldn't be able to run out into the open and have 5 people be unable to hit them. I saw Annie Oakley do this a ton. If a game makes it so hard to shoot so done that an entire squad fails to do so while they run I. The open, that's not a fun game. I say this as someone who started scout, switches to min assault during the scout dark ages, and am back to scout. I appreciate speed. But for flanking and moving to cover. Not for dancing while nobody could hit me. This, this right here. Speed tanking should not be a thing for this exact reason, I remember those days and it was absolutely infuriating. Speed, like profile dampening, should not replace the need for a real tank but should compliment it instead. Tank = shield and/or armor. Tanks come in two kinds, regenerative tanking (Minmatar/Gallente) or buffer tanking (Caldari/Amarr). Caldari need better base shield on their suits and Minmatar need the best shield regen rates. Yes, it does exist to a degree in EVE. However it is more of a damage mitigator than a primary tank, and should it be the primary tank you are usually not there to deal damage but instead are applying some kind of EWAR. Are there exceptions? Yes, but generally that has been my experience.
Clearly you haven't played Eve much. Speed tanking is just another tactic that should still be in game, but doesn't really work any more because CCP has dumbed the game down so much.
Why don't all of you that think the game should have only one gun, and only one fit, go play slayer with your hitscan pewpew somewhere else? |
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