Stick it up your ass.

I said good suggestions.

...Snip...

And a question? How is it possible for so many players to go "broke"? I see it in local chat and on these forums, "I need isk, I'm soo poor". I mean, you can fit a 35-40 K suit thats almost as good as a 200 + K isk suit and then you should always make a profit, if not every game, at least every day of playing. I don't get it.

What does a person do when they have enough ISK to run prototype stuff every match?
Run prototype stuff every match.
Why? Screw the enemy team, that's why.
Make it easier on the enemy team I'm being paid to try and win against? Where is the logic?

Oh, but new players are quitting because people like KingBabar are running prototype stuff and making their games miserable.
Yeah, and? If CCP didn't want this to happen, then it wouldn't happen.
See where I'm going with this? It's not our job to make games easier for people on the enemy team.

What KingBabar is asking himself is: If they're running cheap suits all the time, surely they've got to have loads of ISK. What can they be spending it on?

Well, to answer this question, let us take a look at another argument: Running prototype suits is not necessary all the time.
No, no it's not, but what else are you going to do with your vast piles of ISK?

Running lesser gear makes you better when you run prototype stuff: An argument which holds some weight.
If you can down better suits whilst wearing standard, then obviously you're doing something better than the other guy.

Blah blah blah, arguments for and against.

I'm not here to start an argument, I admit my thoughts may have wandered away from what I was originally trying to say:
People can run whatever they like, and you can't do anything about it, because this is intended game mechanics.
If you can do it, and keep doing it for months, and CCP knows you can do it because they let you do it, then behaviour like this must empower the player to make them feel like they have a choice to do whatever they like.
That must be a sandbox element that CCP wants.

Locking districts? Glitches? Unintended, as stated by CCP themselves. Don't bring them up. Doing them is not excusable because CCP say they are tryng to fix it. They say it is something they want to fix, but we are going to have to deal with them in the meantime however we can.
If CCP say protostomping is something they want to change somehow, then fine. If they said it was unacceptable, then they would do something.

What am I writing this for, I don't know. Agh, I don't even know why, or how I even came out with this.

Anyway: It's the player's choice, and you've got no right in dictating this choice unless you are said individual or CCP.
It's out of your hands. Accept that.

That's enough from me, I need a cold drink and need to get back to reading.
And back to our usual weather forecast: Cloudy, raining, with a chance of bullets and death and whatnot.
Goodbye.

Since you are always bemoaning the lack of effort by players in pubs, why not start handing out ISK to those players who actually put forth the effort?

Say you win a one sided battle, there's the squad of people who give up like you mentioned in your other thread, but there's also that one poor sucker who got killed 15 times because he actually kept trying. Send a message congratulating him for his effort, and hey, here's a couple hundred thousand ISK for your trouble. Keep up the good work!

And we have a winner.

(Check your wallet.)

So John is a bad player? Did you kill him a lot king? I approve of giving unfortunate players some isk, but shouldn't you do that king? Or will John give the isk to poor noobs?

I said I'd give 10 M to the best suggestion, so I sent him 10 m, simple.

I said good suggestions.

Why would I like to play EVE? If I have trouble sleeping I will put on some old black and white documentary. I've been in EVE With a friends account and everything was so slow and borng, even the fights were slow and boring. I tried to ask him, "Who the best pilote in his corp was", and he said that this dude had the best ship. Yes thats fine but who's the best pilote? Who has the best aim and Control of his ship? Then he said that this dude had a sort of tracking thingy on his ship and I startd to realise that EVE isn't affected by player skill at all. Yes the co-ordination of a large fleet, ship fitting and such but when it comes Down to an actual engagement the numbers rule. In Dust you can easily take out a proto suit With a starter fit if you get the drop and knows how to aim, I've died countless times due to a militia ARs in the back. In EVE, a starter ship vs a bigger ship of an experienced player is a sure loss. You can't use Your player skill to outmanouver or outgunn a superior ship so the entire game IMO loses its fun factor.

And I'm not gonna swith from being a Assault/support player to be a vehicle player just to burn through my isk, if I actually wanted to fly I would.

And using stupid fittings like plasma cannon on a protosuit so that I will die more and become useles to my team is not gonna happen. I play to win the games I play and the difference between a 40 K isk ebhanced suit and a 240 K isk proto suit is negligeable at best.

And no, I'm not gonna keep saving isk on the off chance that this game might get good in the future. As I see it, I have enough isk to run full protosuits for the rest of my Dust career.

So, am I to conclude that protostomping is the only viable way to lose isk in this game?

And a question? How is it possible for so many players to go "broke"? I see it in local chat and on these forums, "I need isk, I'm soo poor". I mean, you can fit a 35-40 K suit thats almost as good as a 200 + K isk suit and then you should always make a profit, if not every game, at least every day of playing. I don't get it.

I said I'd give 10 M to the best suggestion, so I sent him 10 m, simple.

Play an assault dropship when you see a swarm of enemy tanks.

What makes you think you won't be needing that ISK later?

<- runs around in a 10k fit all day long

Yea, seems kinda moot though. It's like giving the guy who can solve world hunger a life time supply of food, just for himself, then doing nothing else...

You can run basic BPO suits and crank out even more profit.
If you have them try these.

"Templar" Assault A-I
"Templar" Scrambler Rifle
"Templar" Scrampler Pistol
1 Enhanced Shield Extender
1 Basic Shield Extender (you perhaps could fit 2 Complex, but my Core Skills aren't maxed yet)
1 Enhanced Armor Plate
Flux Grenade
Stable Allotek Drop Uplink


Watch the WP and ISK roll in...

Next

"Staff Recruiter" MLT (Any Caldari MLT BPO, Raven, Covenant, Dragonfly, etc...)
"Exile" Assault Rifle
"Templar" Scrambler Pistol
1 Enhanced Shield Extender
1 Basic Shield Extender
1 Basic Armor Plate
Flux Grenade
Remote Explosives

Both of these suits are DIRT CHEAP but still very effective. I suppose they are only for veteran players who have the SP to use them which ironically; most vets aren't hurting for ISK...

What does a person do when they have enough ISK to run prototype stuff every match?
Run prototype stuff every match.
Why? Screw the enemy team, that's why.
Make it easier on the enemy team I'm being paid to try and win against? Where is the logic?

Oh, but new players are quitting because people like KingBabar are running prototype stuff and making their games miserable.
Yeah, and? If CCP didn't want this to happen, then it wouldn't happen.
See where I'm going with this? It's not our job to make games easier for people on the enemy team.

What KingBabar is asking himself is: If they're running cheap suits all the time, surely they've got to have loads of ISK. What can they be spending it on?

Well, to answer this question, let us take a look at another argument: Running prototype suits is not necessary all the time.
No, no it's not, but what else are you going to do with your vast piles of ISK?

Running lesser gear makes you better when you run prototype stuff: An argument which holds some weight.
If you can down better suits whilst wearing standard, then obviously you're doing something better than the other guy.

Blah blah blah, arguments for and against.

I'm not here to start an argument, I admit my thoughts may have wandered away from what I was originally trying to say:
People can run whatever they like, and you can't do anything about it, because this is intended game mechanics.
If you can do it, and keep doing it for months, and CCP knows you can do it because they let you do it, then behaviour like this must empower the player to make them feel like they have a choice to do whatever they like.
That must be a sandbox element that CCP wants.

Locking districts? Glitches? Unintended, as stated by CCP themselves. Don't bring them up. Doing them is not excusable because CCP say they are tryng to fix it. They say it is something they want to fix, but we are going to have to deal with them in the meantime however we can.
If CCP say protostomping is something they want to change somehow, then fine. If they said it was unacceptable, then they would do something.

What am I writing this for, I don't know. Agh, I don't even know why, or how I even came out with this.

Anyway: It's the player's choice, and you've got no right in dictating this choice unless you are said individual or CCP.
It's out of your hands. Accept that.

That's enough from me, I need a cold drink and need to get back to reading.
And back to our usual weather forecast: Cloudy, raining, with a chance of bullets and death and whatnot.
Goodbye.

Lol. I'm not a leet player by any stretch, but hopefully I'm not actually bad. If one assumes that King uses my suggestion, then he's not "doing nothing else".

It may give you some comfort to know that one thing I will not be using the money on is protostomping, I've used a grand total of 1 proto suit in a pub in my Dust career. I also frequently give newer players in my corp ISK if they need it, I've probably donated close to 20-30 million. I'm guessing my wallet stands around 40 mil now after King's award but I'm at work.

Anyway, thank you King, glad you found my suggestion helpful and I hope that you put it into action and it actually helps keep people in the game. Let's face it, the NPE is important to all of us.

40 995 Isk per suit. So very cheap. I lost 5 suits in a game, and not only didn't I lose 1 M isk that game, I even came out With a net profit.

Slightly annoying to lose 1 vs 1 engagements vs some of the more beefy fattys but otherwise, I couldn't really tell any noteworthy difference except for all my toys (Equipments) were kind of sucky. I've een getting used to the most fanzy equipment isk can buy and, well, comapct nanohives do work but they're not exactly great...

So I Wonder, this goes for all of you not running proto in pub games, and indeed the mass of players getting butthurt of Our general use of it. If I now keep using my 41K fit, making a profit in every game, + keep ringing in PC making even more ISK. What the hell am I supposed to use all this isk for?

For the wast majority of the playerbase, using a cheap fit like this or indeed even cheaper, what do you do With Your isk? Or is it some sort of point to gathering and keeping billions? I don't get it.

And no, I can't "use it for PC" since PC is were I earn my isk and pubgames is were I've so far burnt it away by playing in a stupid manner in a 235K isk logi suit.

What the hell am I supposed to use all my isk for?

Best Idea gets a 10 M "thank you".